sherm03;612543 wrote:I'm standing by it. Maybe I should have qualified the statement a little better by saying that "most outside of the OSU and Arkansas fanbases already consider will be a mediocre bowl game."

centralbucksfan;612545 wrote:Really? Then what would you call the sun bowl game? Toilet bowl?

Let me clarify that I am not trying to be a dick either. But I honestly don't think there is any question that this game is a very good match up. And I think the ratings will show, even before this crap went down.

killer_ewok;612576 wrote:Not sure why some(one) takes offense when other fans aren't dying to watch the Sugar or intrigued by it. Of course, things have changed with these latest developments so I am compelled to watch NOW.

royal_k;612581 wrote:Orrigionally, this was one of the most compelling matchups. (Big 10 vs SEC and OSUs 0-9 record against the SEC) In light of the last 24 hours, it may be even more compelling. Especially given Tress's decision of whether or not to play the 5 kids.

killer_ewok;612576 wrote:Before the controversy, I didn't think it was one of the better matchups or more intriguing Bowls. It wouldn't bother me if an OSU fan said they didn't really care about this year's Sun Bowl.

Not sure why some(one) takes offense when other fans aren't dying to watch the Sugar or intrigued by it. Of course, things have changed with these latest developments so I am compelled to watch NOW.

sherm03;612588 wrote:Please don't get it wrong. I'm not saying the teams are mediocre, thus making the game mediocre. I'm saying that I feel (and many other people I've talked to who have no dog in the fight feel) that the game is going to be a blowout...thus making the game mediocre.

I love that I'm getting jumped on by OSU fans for saying that I feel the game won't be good because I think their team is going to smack Arkansas around. I can't win with you guys!

sherm03;612588 wrote:Please don't get it wrong. I'm not saying the teams are mediocre, thus making the game mediocre. I'm saying that I feel (and many other people I've talked to who have no dog in the fight feel) that the game is going to be a blowout...thus making the game mediocre.

I love that I'm getting jumped on by OSU fans for saying that I feel the game won't be good because I think their team is going to smack Arkansas around. I can't win with you guys!

centralbucksfan;612589 wrote:Ya, not sure why some(one) takes offense when a bowl game is called the toilet bowl either. Fact of the matter is, you or sherm don't speak for the entire nation, nor do OSU/Ark fans. The ratings will be the telling story. And if I had to wager, I know where my money would be.

centralbucksfan;612589 wrote:Ya, not sure why some(one) takes offense when a bowl game is called the toilet bowl either. Fact of the matter is, you or sherm don't speak for the entire nation, nor do OSU/Ark fans. The ratings will be the telling story. And if I had to wager, I know where my money would be.

centralbucksfan;612592 wrote:Not jumping on you. And call me bias, but besides the title game, I think this is the second best matchup. And I thnk you are one of FEW who think OSU wins this game easily. And as I said, now with all that has happened...I am not confident at all that OSU will win. This is a huge distraction. Where do you think these players minds are right now? I'll tell you where...."NFL".

ytownfootball;612593 wrote:Don't get the wrong impression, at least from my stand point. I'm biased as hell but my comments have been based solely on what has been spouted off at the mouth by talking heads prior to this whole mess. I never saw OSU rolling Arkansas, but I like the fact that some do just can't believe it. I thought this game had a lot of intrigue even before the disaster, most of the heads thought so too.

lhslep134;612591 wrote:Ranked by the ESPN experts as #3 bowl to watch.

I'll take their opinions over yours (not that you aren't entitled to it).

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/bowls10/columns/story?columnist=schlabach_mark&id=5890999


And for what it's worth, I'm very excited to see Catholics vs. Convicts renewed, I just wish both teams were more talented.

sherm03;612601 wrote:.they don't talk about Defense A vs. Offense B. .

sherm03;612540 wrote:And I think OSU is going to crush Arkansas. Probably by more than 2 TDs.

It's just a bad match up, IMO. Arkansas' offense is very 1 dimensional. They don't run the ball very well, and I think OSU's defense is going to completely shut them down. When all you really have to worry about is Mallet, you don't have to gameplan a whole lot. On the other side of the ball, Arkansas' defense isn't anything spectacular. They've given up a lot of yards, and a lot of points this year. OSU will roll them.

lhslep134;612608 wrote:More ignorance.

Arkansas was 10th in the country in offensive yds per game and 33rd in the country in defensive yds per game. So where the heck do you get they've given up a lot of yards?

Do you even watch anyone besides ND???

ytownfootball;612632 wrote:All yous fuckers have a nice Christmas!

sherm03;612624 wrote:Ignorance, huh? Arkansas' D gave up 22.8 points/game and 339.8 yds/game. Of the BCS teams only Auburn gave up more points per game, and Oklahoma, UConn, VTech, and Auburn gave up more yards.

I don't know about you, but if my D was giving up 340 yards a game, I would consider that a lot of yards.

And your question is not fair. Yes, I watch other teams besides Notre Dame. But I am not sober after Notre Dame games...so all other games just blend together.

EDIT - Just looked it up and Notre Dame's D is giving up 350 yards/game. And everyone on here, ND fans included, have talked about how porous the ND defense is.

lhslep134;612647 wrote:Again, if you want to talk about how bad of a matchup Arkansas-OSU is...


Name 5 matchups better than #2 defense versus #10 offense.

You can't. So stop hating just because you don't find Arkansas "appealing".

sherm03;612658 wrote: I'm not all over your case about it.

lhslep134;612661 wrote:Because I present a logical statistical based argument that you can't shut down and you are just spewing garbage dude. I didn't say it was the best, I just said it was ranked 3rd by ESPN and top 5 by me and now I'm asking you since you don't think it's going to be a good game to name 5 better games and give me statistical reasons as to why.

How can you say that a top 35 defense gives up a ton of yards? What's your definition of the 75th defense then, giving up oodles and oodles of yards?