KR1245;602549 wrote:Thats fine. Bottom line is that one guy should not have more FT attempts than an entire team. He ended up with 18 FT's to the Cavs 20.

Commander of Awesome;602761 wrote:The truth! He's been progressing nicely based on the stat lines. I've been following him since we sent him down, and he seems to get better by the game.

http://www.nba.com/dleague/games/20101207/ERIUTA/gameinfo.html#nbaGIboxscore

He had 16 and 11 the other night.

Rotinaj;602843 wrote:Least physical team in the NBA? I take it youve watched multiple games of every team this year then?

thedynasty1998;602825 wrote: Dude is averaging 11 ppg and 4 rpg in the D League in 8 games. Hardly anything I would be optimistic about. Wasn't he a first round draft pick?

Let's put him in perspective:
Toney Douglas drafted one ahead of him is averaging 10 PPG in the NBA, on a winning team.

Guys who were drafted in the 2nd round in the 2009 draft:
DeJuan Blair, Sam Young, Jon Brockman, Jodie Meeks, Marcus Thornton, Chase Budinger and Patrick Mills

Wooball;602873 wrote:Are you really comparing Eyenga's progression to these guys? He is 21. When drafted, he played for basically DKV Juventut's JV team. Last year, when he was supposed to get minutes with the first division club, he was ill and missed time to develop. The kid might not ever amount to a rotation player in this league, but it is understandable why he is behind the guys you listed that played NCAA D1 basketball for a few years before entering the NBA.

thedynasty1998;602908 wrote:Who else can you compare him to? He was drafted in the first round and in that same draft the guys I listed went in the 2nd round. The Cavs knew he was a project, but I would imagine they would have thought he would be playing minutes on one of the worst teams in the NBA who is in complete rebuild mode.

hoops23;602957 wrote:This is one of the many reasons you're stupid.

thedynasty1998;602825 wrote:The Cavs are the least physical team in the NBA and Lebron is the most physical player in the NBA at attacking the basket. Normally your statement would be true, but not in this game. And factor in Lebron being a star, it's really not that surprising.



Dude is averaging 11 ppg and 4 rpg in the D League in 8 games. Hardly anything I would be optimistic about. Wasn't he a first round draft pick?

Let's put him in perspective:
Toney Douglas drafted one ahead of him is averaging 10 PPG in the NBA, on a winning team.

Guys who were drafted in the 2nd round in the 2009 draft:
DeJuan Blair, Sam Young, Jon Brockman, Jodie Meeks, Marcus Thornton, Chase Budinger and Patrick Mills

KR1245;603009 wrote:Give it a rest. I dont think anybody on this site is expecting Eyenga to do anything in the NBA for quite some time. It was a damn joke. Anytime somebody makes a positive statement regarding the Cavs you are here to run your mouth. It gets old

You have NOTHING to back up your argument that the Cavs are the least physical team in the NBA. Did you watch that game last night? Theres NO WAY that Lebron should have taken 2 less FT's than the entire Cavs team. No way. Bron gets put on the line for touch fouls. Andy was getting clobbered under the rim and there wasnt a whistle. Cavs also outscored the Heat in points in the pain lat night, so it seems that the Cavs were getting to the rim more than the Heat. They just werent getting the calls that the Heat were.

KR1245;603009 wrote:Give it a rest. I dont think anybody on this site is expecting Eyenga to do anything in the NBA for quite some time. It was a damn joke. Anytime somebody makes a positive statement regarding the Cavs you are here to run your mouth. It gets old

You have NOTHING to back up your argument that the Cavs are the least physical team in the NBA. Did you watch that game last night? Theres NO WAY that Lebron should have taken 2 less FT's than the entire Cavs team. No way. Bron gets put on the line for touch fouls. Andy was getting clobbered under the rim and there wasnt a whistle. Cavs also outscored the Heat in points in the pain lat night, so it seems that the Cavs were getting to the rim more than the Heat. They just werent getting the calls that the Heat were.

karen lotz;603094 wrote:To say he was getting touch fouls last night and the Cavs weren't getting any calls is ridiculous.

And you are correct Hb, as I said earlier. The Cavs are a jump shooting team that doesn't attack the rim. Jamison either spots up or shoots floaters/runners/flip shots, Mo was shooting runners/floaters in the paint last night, as was Gibson. They weren't exactly going to the rim strong. There is a difference between scoring in the paint and attacking the basket and drawing contact.

wes_mantooth;603495 wrote:I was talking today with some buddies...if the Cavs played like that during the Dec 2nd meeting...how would you feel about this team? I mean, they would still suck, but would you be as hard on them?

wes_mantooth;603533 wrote:I guess I just don't see it the same as you. I look at the team and we have one guy that would start on a playoff caliber team....maybe two. I am a pessimist though...so I am probably just being rough on them.

wes_mantooth;603495 wrote:I was talking today with some buddies...if the Cavs played like that during the Dec 2nd meeting...how would you feel about this team? I mean, they would still suck, but would you be as hard on them?

september63;603556 wrote:You have buddies? Must have been at work, where they had to stay and pretend to talk to ya?

september63;603556 wrote:You have buddies? Must have been at work, where they had to stay and pretend to talk to ya?

KR1245;603491 wrote:How is it ridiculous? The Heat doubled the Cavs in FT attempts. Floaters, runners, whatever, the Cavs were getting into the paint last night, they just werent getting calls. Chris Bosh might have taken 2 shots inside the paint. Wade spent most of his night out on the perimeter as well. The Heat werent attacking the rim like you would like to think. They were plenty of questionable calls that went the Heats way. The Cavs take plenty of jump shots, I wont deny that. They also spent alot more time in the paint last night than the Heat did. My point is that I think they deserved some more calls.

KR1245;603532 wrote:I'm looking through homer glasses...

KR1245;603532 wrote:I dont think the Cavs are as bad as their record indicates. I'm looking through homer glasses but I have seen Cavs teams with far less talent do more.

karen lotz;603574 wrote:Again, there is a difference in the way the Cavs big offensive players attack the paint compared to Wade and LeBron. I didn't say Bosh had a big interior game, he has never been known for that part of his game. Although I do think he took someone to the basket and dunked pretty authoritatively last night. You will never convince me or anyone who watches basketball that Jamison, Gibson, and Mo Williams attack the rim with the goal of drawing contact. Did you not watch very closely last night? How many floaters or runners or high arching shots did Gibson and Mo shoot from around the dotted line? That is in the paint, but it isn't near the rim. Why do you think they shoot those shots? Because it lets them get the shots up before the bigs can get there for the block. Jamison is the same way with his array of shooting angles/flips/whatever you want to call it. He shoots those shots to get them up before the defense can react and he is good at them. Varejao isn't really much of an attacker either.

This quote sums up everything perfectly.