Cleveland was hoping its plucky young team would drive hard to the basket, hit its free throws, grab every loose ball and dump LeBron James in a vat of hot wax.

If LeBron had played for Miami for seven years, then left for Cleveland in the same way, would Miami be nearly as angry as Cleveland is?

Trick question. NBA stars don't leave Miami for Cleveland.

It is an ego borne of insecurity, and this is why he left for Miami in the first place: He wanted things to be easier.

thedynasty1998;586500 wrote:I'm really not saying this to be a hater, but I have a problem with several parts of this article and think it is horrible:



Young? Who? Instantly lose credibility.





What is this guys stance? That he should have stayed in Cleveland? He justifies Lebron's decision right here.



Insecurity? Really. I'm quite sure Lebron is very secure. And no shit he wanted things easier. Why wouldn't he? He wants to win championships and wanted a place where he thought he could do that.


Sorry, just a bad article.

Fab4Runner;586508 wrote:Not a bad article. Regardless of your little nitpicking it remains true that no other fans will love Lebron the way Cleveland fans did. Whether he regrets leaving or not I am 99% certain he misses the fans, excitement and atmosphere in Cleveland.

thedynasty1998;586500 wrote:I'm really not saying this to be a hater, but I have a problem with several parts of this article and think it is horrible:

Young? Who? Instantly lose credibility.

What is this guys stance? That he should have stayed in Cleveland? He justifies Lebron's decision right here.

Insecurity? Really. I'm quite sure Lebron is very secure. And no shit he wanted things easier. Why wouldn't he? He wants to win championships and wanted a place where he thought he could do that.

Sorry, just a bad article.

thedynasty1998;586519 wrote:I understand the point, I just think he was talking out of both sides of his mouth. And yes, SI is absolutely better than ESPN.

Lebron will never be loved the way he was in Cleveland, I get that. Cleveland has GREAT fans! But what does that really get him? He doesn't want a personal relationship with any fans. They won't help him win a championship. It's certainly not a thriving city.

I just think it's too easy to say that he'll miss the fans, when no one knows what drives him. He will still have his close knit support group. He is still a superstar. He is still marketable. Given time (few months) people will be back on his bandwagon (see Bill Simmons).

Will Miami ever have the same atmosphere as Cleveland? No, they won't. But he's making money. He has a mansion in South Beach. He's playing with his friends. I think those things make him happier than "fan's that support him".

thedynasty1998;586519 wrote:I understand the point, I just think he was talking out of both sides of his mouth. And yes, SI is absolutely better than ESPN.

Lebron will never be loved the way he was in Cleveland, I get that. Cleveland has GREAT fans! But what does that really get him? He doesn't want a personal relationship with any fans. They won't help him win a championship. It's certainly not a thriving city.

I just think it's too easy to say that he'll miss the fans, when no one knows what drives him. He will still have his close knit support group. He is still a superstar. He is still marketable. Given time (few months) people will be back on his bandwagon (see Bill Simmons).

Will Miami ever have the same atmosphere as Cleveland? No, they won't. But he's making money. He has a mansion in South Beach. He's playing with his friends. I think those things make him happier than "fan's that support him".

Jester;586516 wrote:First off, not really sure what you mean by your first statement. He's saying the team is young, which mostly it is. Are you thinking he was using young as a name of a player or something?

As for the second thing you quoted, the way I took it, is that Miami fans aren't as passionate as Cleveland fans. Hell they've got three superstars on their team and they can't even fill the stands. Players these days only care about things like warm weather, after parties, etc. They'll turn their back on their hometown just to be in more desirable locations with higher profile people. It's an ego thing, IMO.

And as for the final thing, I actually do think he is somewhat insecure. He's been labeled and labeled himself as the next great player in NBA history and has yet to do anything to prove that. Instead of sticking it out like some players have in the past and fulfilling his promises to the city, he bolted for the easiest opportunity to come play on Dwayne Wade's team. Instead of building his own team and his own legacy, he's using somebody else's to try and get a ring.

Just my opinion.

vball10set;586535 wrote:you make a good argument until you get here..he was making money in Cleveland, and he could have a mansion anywhere he wants--but IMO he needs fans to support him the way that only Cleveland fans can--with passion and unconditionally.

ytownfootball;586542 wrote:Young as in finding an identity without their star player, young as in haven't played together all that much...it's easy to do see?

I would suggest that all the tattoos is an over compensation for severe insecurity...again, easy to do.

need I go on?

thedynasty1998;586546 wrote:I see things differently then. The Cavs have a roster of experienced players. Is anyone calling the Miami Heat young? They have been together as little as anyone.

We are really getting into the mind of Lebron here. There really is no evidence to think Lebron is insecure. 99.9% of America would say the opposite, that he is one of the most secure men in the world.

Y-Town Steelhound;586550 wrote:See but you're doing the same thing that you're chastising the author for doing but with the opposite opinion. At least he brings up the tattoos and his body language. You bring up "The Decision" when most people know it was just a stupid marketing ploy. You can have a big ego and still be insecure. I think being told you're God's gift to basketball for most of your life and then going 7 years without leading a team to a championship would make anyone insecure about their abilities.

LeBron is just the A-Rod of basketball. Great player, media force, couldn't lead his team to a championship, went to a team with someone who HAS led their team to a championship (Wade/Jeter), will never be viewed the same again in the eyes of the public.

Y-Town Steelhound;586550 wrote:LeBron is just the A-Rod of basketball. Great player, media force, couldn't lead his team to a championship, went to a team with someone who HAS led their team to a championship (Wade/Jeter), will never be viewed the same again in the eyes of the public.

Y-Town Steelhound;586550 wrote:See but you're doing the same thing that you're chastising the author for doing but with the opposite opinion. At least he brings up the tattoos and his body language. You bring up "The Decision" when most people know it was just a stupid marketing ploy. You can have a big ego and still be insecure. I think being told you're God's gift to basketball for most of your life and then going 7 years without leading a team to a championship would make anyone insecure about their abilities.

LeBron is just the A-Rod of basketball. Great player, media force, couldn't lead his team to a championship, went to a team with someone who HAS led their team to a championship (Wade/Jeter), will never be viewed the same again in the eyes of the public.