Iowa or PSU for the Fiesta Bowl?

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Nov 28, 2009 7:18 PM
They probably are a lot more attractive option; bigger fan base, longer pedigree, etc. but it would be a crime for Cincy to get left out.

And I agree with Cincy winning and making this a moot point
Nov 28, 2009 7:18pm
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Nov 28, 2009 7:38 PM
If Cincinnati loses to Pittsburgh, they have as good a chance to make a BCS bowl as the Freehuddle Pickup football team.
Nov 28, 2009 7:38pm
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Nov 28, 2009 7:54 PM
I know that if it was based strictly on football and I had to pick between a 2 loss Iowa and Penn State and a 1 loss Cincy, I'd take the 1 loss Cincy. obviously its not competely based on that
Nov 28, 2009 7:54pm
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Nov 28, 2009 9:23 PM
Neither
Nov 28, 2009 9:23pm
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Nov 28, 2009 10:50 PM
jordo212000 wrote: Neither
Who then?
Nov 28, 2009 10:50pm
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Nov 28, 2009 10:54 PM
That's the interesting question. Who else is worthy?
Nov 28, 2009 10:54pm
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Nov 29, 2009 12:10 AM
SportsAndLadies wrote: No way should Penn State go to a BCS game...they had one of the worst schedules I have ever seen, and only played 2 good teams and lost, and they were both AT HOME.

Iowa...ehhhh...no thanks. Not a very good following (fan-wise) and just aren't a very exciting team..I think the Fiesta Bowl will skip over them.

I agree, 1 bid league.
Right... Because Boise has played such great teams...

They won is a VERY sloppy game against Oregon, and then the best team they played after that was Fresno State.

PSU or Iowa would be the favorite and win this game, IMO.
Nov 29, 2009 12:10am
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Nov 29, 2009 12:11 AM
Neither, the Big 10 doesn't deserve a 2nd team. I would rather see 2 non BCS conference teams in there.
Nov 29, 2009 12:11am
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Nov 29, 2009 12:13 AM
darbypitcher22 wrote: That's the interesting question. Who else is worthy?
Exactly. There really isn't another team that has a shot, in my opinion. If it comes down to Iowa and Penn State, which it should as long as there are no big upsets next week, then I would have to go with Iowa since they beat PSU head-to-head.
Nov 29, 2009 12:13am
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Nov 29, 2009 12:14 AM
Boise at least stepped up and played Oregon! Much better than Penn State playing Akron(terrible), Syracuse(looked promising, but still, terrible), Temple(who ended upbeing bowl eligible and halfway decent, but still not great caliber in a weak MAC this year) and FCS Eastern Illinois

And I see where you're right about there not really being another worthy team... nobody is going to take 4 loss Clemson team if Tech beats them next week... and Idon't see them taking a 3 loss Tech team either... so as much as we hate it and don't agree with it, it looks as if the Big Ten will in fact be a 2 bid league... or could be
Nov 29, 2009 12:14am
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Nov 29, 2009 12:14 AM
wes_mantooth wrote: Neither, the Big 10 doesn't deserve a 2nd team. I would rather see 2 non BCS conference teams in there.
TCU and Boise will already be in. Do you mean a non-BCS team other than them?
Nov 29, 2009 12:14am
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Nov 29, 2009 12:17 AM
darbypitcher22 wrote: Boise at least stepped up and played Oregon! Much better than Penn State playing Akron(terrible), Syracuse(looked promising, but still, terrible), Temple(who ended upbeing bowl eligible and halfway decent, but still not great caliber in a weak MAC this year) and FCS Eastern Illinois

And I see where you're right about there not really being another worthy team... nobody is going to take 4 loss Clemson team if Tech beats them next week... and Idon't see them taking a 3 loss Tech team either... so as much as we hate it and don't agree with it, it looks as if the Big Ten will in fact be a 2 bid league... or could be
Like we talked about last night, though. These schedules are planned years apart. Now I think PSU could have tried harder to get a different game, but this isn't NCAA Football '10, where you can just delete somebody off your schedule and throw in a ranked team, or anything like that.

I think PSU is better than Iowa, but Iowa was just playing better football earlier in the year.

I just don't think that Boise would beat either team. I think they'd be very tough, and close games however.
Nov 29, 2009 12:17am
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Nov 29, 2009 12:17 AM
darbypitcher22 wrote: They had a pretty good following at last year's Orange Bowl; at least it looked decent on TV.

I think they'd take an 11-1 Cincy team
If I remember correctly there were huge sections of the stadium that were completely empty last year. That is pathetic for any post-New years bowl, let alone a BCS one. I'm not saying it's all Cinci's fault, in fact it could have been Va Tech's fault, but that is going to have to play a factor if Cinci doesn't clinch the auto bid.
Nov 29, 2009 12:17am
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Nov 29, 2009 12:18 AM
yeah I know the schedules are planned years apart but Akron hasn't been that great since '05, Syracuse has been on the decline since Donavan McNabb left town, Temple is an in-state game and Eastern Illinois fills what would have been a bye
Nov 29, 2009 12:18am
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Nov 29, 2009 1:50 AM
I'm pretty sure that you cannot be selected as an "at-large" pick if you have three losses. I think that is in the BCS by-laws. With that being, I think the only way Iowa is not in the Fiesta Bowl is if Nebraska knocks off Texas.

NCG
Alabama vs. Texas

Rose
OSU vs. Oregon

Fiesta
Iowa vs. Boise

Sugar
Florida vs. TCU

Orange
Georgia Tech vs. Cincinnati
Nov 29, 2009 1:50am
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Nov 29, 2009 1:53 AM
Not true about the 3 loss deal; it has to do with your positioning, not how many losses you have
Nov 29, 2009 1:53am
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Nov 29, 2009 2:01 AM
darbypitcher22 wrote: Not true about the 3 loss deal; it has to do with your positioning, not how many losses you have
It doesn't have to do with losses, but you must have at least 9 wins to be considered for an At-Large bid.

http://www.bcsfootball.org/bcsfb/eligibility
Nov 29, 2009 2:01am
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Nov 29, 2009 2:02 AM
bcsfootball.... love that site when I'm confused as to how this shit work
Nov 29, 2009 2:02am
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Nov 29, 2009 2:05 AM
With GA Tech losing, this is shaping up to be the worst BCS bowl schedule of all-time. If Oregon State and Pitt win, it's basically sealed.
Nov 29, 2009 2:05am
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Nov 29, 2009 2:08 AM
My bad, I don't know why I thought that. I guess I can blame it on vodka :)
Nov 29, 2009 2:08am
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Nov 29, 2009 2:12 AM
I don't know... 2001-2003 had some pretty weak matchups and some predictable outcomes...

2001
Rose #4 Washington 34, Purdue 24
Sugar #3 Miami 37, #7 Florida 20
Fiesta #6 Oregon State 41, #11 Notre Dame 9
Orange #1 Oklahoma 13, #2 Florida State 2

2002
Rose #1 Miami 37, #2 Nebraska 14
Sugar #13 LSU 47, #8 Illinois 34
Fiesta #4 Oregona 38, #3 Colorado 16
Orange #5 Florida 56, #10 Maryland 23

2003
Rose #7 Oklahoma 34, #7 Washington State 14
Sugar #3 Georgia 26, #14 Florida State 13
Fiesta #2 Ohio State 31, #1 Miami 24 (2OT)
Orange #4 USC 38, #5 Iowa 17
Nov 29, 2009 2:12am
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Nov 29, 2009 2:22 AM
chief_wigam wrote: My bad, I don't know why I thought that. I guess I can blame it on vodka :)
When all else fails, blame it on the goose. ;)
Nov 29, 2009 2:22am
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Nov 29, 2009 9:12 AM
I think t will be Iowa so long as Cincy beats Pitt. Otheriwse, the Big East will get 2 bids instead of the Big 10.
Nov 29, 2009 9:12am
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Nov 29, 2009 10:02 AM
I think it would benefit the Big-10's bowl record more if Iowa did not go to a BCS bowl and played in the Capital One bowl which would bump the entire conference down a game. I think the Big-10 would definitely have a winning record in their bowl games in that scenario.
Nov 29, 2009 10:02am
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Nov 29, 2009 10:47 AM
You think Iowa would stand a better chance of beating a 3 Loss LSU team in the Capital One than Boise State?
Nov 29, 2009 10:47am