I Wear Pants;519623 wrote:Sleeper, if you vote according to what party the person is you're an idiot.

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Ty Webb;518268 wrote:Good news...but Teddy still has to keep exposing Kasich's plans to drive this state into the Abyss

I stand by my prediction that Teddy wins by 1.5%

The Dispatch is gonna make you toss your Cheerios - http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2010/10/15/1015-ohio-poll-kasich-holds-lead-over-strickland.html?sid=101

The other major point is that Kasich has now passed 50%, and that is a horrible sign for the incumbent one.

BGFalcons82;520337 wrote:The Dispatch is gonna make you toss your Cheerios - http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2010/10/15/1015-ohio-poll-kasich-holds-lead-over-strickland.html?sid=101

The other major point is that Kasich has now passed 50%, and that is a horrible sign for the incumbent one.

Dayton Daily News is reporting the same: http://www.daytondailynews.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/dayton/ohiopolitics/entries/2010/10/15/kasich_leads_strickland_by_8_p.html

And I agree, this late in the race and the incumbent hovering in the low 40s while the challenger is above 50% is a bad place to be for the incumbent.

Why did you have to ruin Ty's weekend?

Why did you have to ruin Ty's November?

Fixed it for ya.

How about Portman over Fisher . . . by a lot:

Meanwhile Republican Rob Portman is walloping Democrat Lee Fisher by 22 points, 58 percent to 36 percent, in the matchup to succeed retiring GOP U.S. Sen. George V. Voinovich.

Speaking of Portman, David Broder, of the Washington Post, had a really good piece on Portman on Sunday:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/08/AR2010100804322.html

Now 54 and a fitness fanatic, Portman has achieved his status by being smart, disciplined and a team player. Business people know he does his homework, and Democrats find him approachable. Except for Daniels, there are few Republicans who have delved as deeply into fiscal and budgetary policy, trade and health care as has Portman, who notably expanded the Office of Management and Budget's focus on Medicare and Medicaid, even when Bush showed little interest in the issue.

I've been a fan of him since he became the Congressman of part of Portsmouth back in 2002-2003. I really like his fiscal and budget views.

Yep, Portman is a good dude.

Apple;520363 wrote:Dayton Daily News is reporting the same: http://www.daytondailynews.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/dayton/ohiopolitics/entries/2010/10/15/kasich_leads_strickland_by_8_p.html

And I agree, this late in the race and the incumbent hovering in the low 40s while the challenger is above 50% is a bad place to be for the incumbent.

Yes....a poll conducted by UC matters....my mistake

Quaker...my weekend just got alot better about half an hour ago

Also....Portman winning this big has nothing to do about his ideas,it has to do with Lee Fisher running the second most inept campaign I have ever seen

Ty, please change the title of the thread.

http://www.vindy.com/news/2010/oct/20/poll-kasich8217s-lead-remains-unchanged/

Kasich held a 51 percent-41 percent lead over Strickland, statistically unchanged from Quinnipiac’s poll two weeks ago.

“John Kasich’s lead has remained the same, and the sand is slipping through the hourglass,”

The problem with this state is too many people vote for candidates solely because they have a D or an R next to their name. A very small minority of people are the ones that actually research the candidates and the issues and the correlation between the two. You have to vote for the person, not the party. As an independent myself, I think both Democrats and Republicans have some good ideas/policies and some flawed ones. The problem is when one party has all of the power for a lengthened period of time. Youngstown has been run by the D's fairly unopposed for years now and look at the state it's in (with the exception of Jay Williams who is doing a pretty good job).

Doing my own research on this race there is no doubt in my mind that Kasich is the better candidate. I don't necessarily think that Strickland is a horrible governor, but he's not a very good one either. The problem is that it's hard for businesses to get started and grow in Ohio compared to other states with our restrictions and taxes. We need to start enabling our state to be more competitive so that our businesses will stay, new businesses will come, and our college grads (which I feel like Ohio is one of the best states for higher education) will stay here. I feel like Strickland won't solve this issue, I know Kasich will.

Y-Town Steelhound;525863 wrote: The problem is that it's hard for businesses to get started and grow in Ohio compared to other states with our restrictions and taxes.

.............. and old-guard union mentality .........

Let's face it, folks, it doesn't matter one whit who you elect. Ohio has been on a downward spiral for decades, regardless of which party controlled the Statehouse or the Governor's Mansion. What it would take to fix is beyond anything your politicians are capable of. They have joined the fellowship of floundering states such as California and Illinois, bitching and moaning about which direction to go as other states prosper and move forward. Until your legislators decide to abandon the old partisan ways there will never be improvement, there will never be innovation and there will never be fiscal responsibility.

stlouiedipalma;525979 wrote:Let's face it, folks, it doesn't matter one whit who you elect. Ohio has been on a downward spiral for decades, regardless of which party controlled the Statehouse or the Governor's Mansion. What it would take to fix is beyond anything your politicians are capable of. They have joined the fellowship of floundering states such as California and Illinois, bitching and moaning about which direction to go as other states prosper and move forward. Until your legislators decide to abandon the old partisan ways there will never be improvement, there will never be innovation and there will never be fiscal responsibility.

I think you raise valid points, but I'm not ready to throw in the towel just yet. Look what Indiana has done under Mitch Daniels and New Jersey is climbing out of their cesspool of corruption and high taxes under the great leadership of Chris Christie. It CAN be done, if the chains of dependence, entitlements, and "this is always the way we've done it" can be broken and thrown aside.

QuakerOats;525853 wrote:Ty, please change the title of the thread.

http://www.vindy.com/news/2010/oct/20/poll-kasich8217s-lead-remains-unchanged/

Kasich held a 51 percent-41 percent lead over Strickland, statistically unchanged from Quinnipiac’s poll two weeks ago.

“John Kasich’s lead has remained the same, and the sand is slipping through the hourglass,”

What do you think a Republican-leaning site is going to say??

Ty Webb;526018 wrote:What do you think a Republican-leaning site is going to say??

The Quinnipiac University Polling Institute is a Rebublican leaning group?

Really?

You can usually tell that things don't look very good when supporters of a predictable losing situation begin to make statements like, "Ohio has been on a downward spiral for decades, regardless of which party controlled the Statehouse or the Governor's Mansion."

Statements like this on the surface do sound, and many times are, true, however, down deep, objectivity seems abandoned and the statements seem to scream that they know they are losing and there is a necessity to project failure upon the leading candidate.

The fact is, as those who seem to care begin to become more informed of the two candidates, the polls in recent weeks show Kasich pulling ahead of Strickland.

Nothing Strickland has done as governor or his campaign and supporters have done to tear down Kasich during the election process has convinced me that a second term by him would be better for Ohioans than a Kasich first term.

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2010/10/24/kasich_has_small_edge_in_ohio.html

Kasich Has Small Edge in Ohio
A new Dayton Daily News/Ohio Newspaper poll finds John Kasich (R) with a small lead over Gov. Ted Strickland (D) in the race for governor, 49% to 47%.

Said pollster Eric Rademacher: "It's a close race, but the dynamics, especially the advantage the Republicans have in turnout, still favor Kasich."


http://politicalwire.com/archives/2010/10/20/strickland_catches_kasich_in_ohio.html?ref=related-entry

Strickland Catches Kasich in Ohio
A new CNN/Time/Opinion Research poll in Ohio finds Gov. Ted Strickland (D) has erased John Kasich's (R) lead and is now in front by one point, 48% to 47%.

Just a month ago, Kasich held a seven point lead in a similar poll

Ty - I think what we're seeing is the natural tightening that occurs every election...in all races. In the end, Fish82 is right and Kasich will win by 6 points. The polls always discount the Republican vote...year after year.

For discussion sake, let's say Ted wins. What will change? What will he do in the next 4 years that he's failed to do the past 4 years? All of his ads follow the same theme, "Kasich worked on Wall Street, so let's elect Ted because he didn't." That's it. That's the campaign. I saw 2 new ads for Ted today that were toting this line from start to finish. Essentially, he's running on the "I'm not working on Wall Street" platform. So what? What are you going to do, Ted, that you haven't done already? More job losses? A school funding program that goes 4 more years without a solution? More companies moving to tax-friendly environments? Seriously, Ty, what will he do to us...besides not take up an office on Wall Street?

BGFalcons82;531132 wrote:Ty - I think what we're seeing is the natural tightening that occurs every election...in all races. In the end, Fish82 is right and Kasich will win by 6 points. The polls always discount the Republican vote...year after year.

For discussion sake, let's say Ted wins. What will change? What will he do in the next 4 years that he's failed to do the past 4 years? All of his ads follow the same theme, "Kasich worked on Wall Street, so let's elect Ted because he didn't." That's it. That's the campaign. I saw 2 new ads for Ted today that were toting this line from start to finish. Essentially, he's running on the "I'm not working on Wall Street" platform. So what? What are you going to do, Ted, that you haven't done already? More job losses? A school funding program that goes 4 more years without a solution? More companies moving to tax-friendly environments? Seriously, Ty, what will he do to us...besides not take up an office on Wall Street?

Great Post! I'm being serious, the Kasich people should basically just come out with an ad this week just saying what you said in that last paragraph. It baffles me all the people in this state who think Strickland deserves another term.

Look back over the past 30 years and tell me that any one of Ohio's Governors made significant strides forward. The only one I might agree with is George Voinovich and, once he left for the Senate, things went right back to the way they were and are today. If Kasich wins (and I believe he'll beat Strickland handily) he needs to hit the ground running and move FORWARD. If he can somehow give the correct message and work to see it through then there might be a chance.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/10/25/kasich-rails-on-negative-smearing-lying-democrats/#more-130758

Seems like John is losing his cool a little bit:

For all his bombast about President Obama, Kasich made no mention of Strickland. He instead issued ominous warnings about how the Democratic Party may try to steal the election next Tuesday.

"They will try to buy this election from top to bottom," he said. "They are going to use the policies of fear, every left-wing organizer in this country, to come in here and scare our people and try to drag people away from the polls. They don't want you to vote. They are going to tell a lot of lies."

Ty.....stop obfuscating. Here, I'll type slower for you:

W h a t w i l l T e d d o i n t h e n e x t 4 y e a r s t h a t h e h a s n ' t d o n e i n t h e p a s t 4 y e a r s t o h e l p O h i o ? For 1 post, stop telling us about Kasich and tell us what Strickland will do to or for Ohio. Can you articulate anything he is for, or just tell us again for the umpteenth time that John Kasich worked for Lehman Brothers on Wall Street? Come on...change someone's mind from Kasich to Strickland because Ted will....._______________. You fill in the blank.

BGFalcons82;532362 wrote:Ty.....stop obfuscating. Here, I'll type slower for you:

W h a t w i l l T e d d o i n t h e n e x t 4 y e a r s t h a t h e h a s n ' t d o n e i n t h e p a s t 4 y e a r s t o h e l p O h i o ? For 1 post, stop telling us about Kasich and tell us what Strickland will do to or for Ohio. Can you articulate anything he is for, or just tell us again for the umpteenth time that John Kasich worked for Lehman Brothers on Wall Street? Come on...change someone's mind from Kasich to Strickland because Ted will....._______________. You fill in the blank.

Let me try!

- he'll stand up for unions

and... um... I think that's it

CenterBHSFan;532378 wrote:Let me try!

- he'll stand up for unions

and... um... I think that's it

He won't cut 49% of the state's revenue

He won't force schools into more levies

The State would be in much better condition if Blackwell would have won......