dat dude;491433 wrote:Todd Boeckman over Pryor?
enigmaax;491444 wrote:Yeah. At this point, Pryor hasn't done anything better. Except maybe run for more yards. Boeckman took them to a title game. Played crappy in that game, but Pryor played crappy in regular season games that prevented them from getting there.
ytownfootball;491434 wrote:Tomczak threw too many picks in critical situations to be ranked very highly on my list, but Pryor is climbing into that top te pretty quickly.
I personally have a hard time ranking top to bottom because so much is influenced by their surrounding casts. But Pryor has weapons other than his arm that put him on a short list imo.
enigmaax;491444 wrote:Except maybe run for more yards.
enigmaax;491444 wrote:Boeckman took them to a title game.
devil1197;491445 wrote:Lolz Boeckman over Pryor.
devil1197;491445 wrote:Lolz Boeckman over Pryor.
Manhattan Buckeye;491513 wrote:Good lord, look at Boeckman's stat line in the last 3 games of '07 and the first 3 games in '08 (excepting YSU), the guy just couldn't get it done, especially against USC when it was obvious he wasn't a title contending QB. OSU's '07 schedule was the easiest they've had this decade, they won DESPITE Boeckman not because of him. He just wasn't a great QB, in any sense. Again, no NFL team touched him.
Only St. Henry homers would even think about comparing the two.
enigmaax;491521 wrote:There is nothing that Pryor has accomplished so far that makes him any better.
captvern;491532 wrote:Didnt Pryor start over Boeckman in his senior year?
Oh...THAT USC team. The one that held 8 opponents to a TD or less, 2 other teams to a TD and a FG, and lost one game? Or the one who beat Pryor's team at home when a sucky freshman QB led a winning drive *in a hostile environment* and whose defense gave up 55 to a freshman QB at home and whose team lost to that wunderkin program known as Washington the very next week? Bad........BAD point.wildcats20;491543 wrote:Yes after Boeckman led us to that PHENOMENAL performance out in So Cal.
And Boeckman had a bad game in the NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP that Pryor didn't take them to on account of losing the aforementioned home game as well as a game to Purdue, who incidentally lost to MAC powerhouse Northern Illinois at home (with NI putting up more points than the OSU offense, of course).dat dude;491530 wrote:Really? Pryor had 338 yards of total offense and 2 TDs in a Rose Bowl win.
So you'd rather win the Rose Bowl than play for a national title? That's your problem. Again, NEVER SAID HE WAS GREAT. Just said Pryor isn't either.Manhattan Buckeye;491524 wrote:Boeckman didn't just have a couple of bad games, he strung together a litany of bad games that caused the team and coaches to lose confidence in him, rightfully so. He wasn't a great QB. Continuing talking about him as if he was doesn't make it correct.
"There is nothing that Pryor has accomplished so far that makes him any better."
Besides winning a BCS bowl game?????????
enigmaax;491591 wrote:So you'd rather win the Rose Bowl than play for a national title? That's your problem. Again, NEVER SAID HE WAS GREAT. Just said Pryor isn't either.
ytownfootball;491639 wrote:The last four games last year he was forced to do what he had not ever done before, sharpen his skills that didn't include his athleticism. In the long run, it may pan out to be what gets him over the hump...
enigmaax;491591 wrote:And Boeckman had a bad game in the NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP that Pryor didn't take them to on account of losing the aforementioned home game as well as a game to Purdue, who incidentally lost to MAC powerhouse Northern Illinois at home (with NI putting up more points than the OSU offense, of course).
karen lotz;491653 wrote:So you say he has sharpened those skills??? He had all that time in the off season in addition to those 4 games and he still struggles with short throws and outs.
dat dude;491649 wrote:No, you said, "There is nothing that Pryor has accomplished so far that makes him any better." Winning a Rose Bowl game has to account for something.
Also, you are misguided if you think Boeckman "led" OSU to the NC game. You obviously aren't a follower of OSU football.
enigmaax;491662 wrote:Winning a Rose Bowl is better than playing for a National Title? Hmmm. I'd be interested in who agrees with that.
Yeah, it is kinda weird that the QB gets as much credit as he does. But, that's the way it is. Quarterback is a leadership position. Three OSU QBs have played for national titles this decade. One of them isn't Terrelle Pryor. That could change, but it is really kind of silly now to crucify a QB who DID take you there with no hype over the honor or whatever bullshit reason you have for trying to convince anyone that Pryor has accomplished anything worthy of being above several guys up to this point.
Especially when you essentially throw out half the play book with him.dat dude;491676 wrote: it takes a lot for Tressel to bench an upperclassman. A lot.