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Aug 27, 2010 12:53 AM
http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/feed/2010-08/unc-investigation/story/unc-football-investigating-academic-impropriety

UNC has made the NCAA aware of academic infractions regarding its football team, according to InsideCarolina.com, which quoted unnamed sources.

ESPN college football reporter Joe Schad tweets that the players involved include starters Marvin Austin, Bruce Carter and Robert Quinn. Quinn and Austin were both named to SN's preseason All-ACC team and Quinn was named a SN First Team All-American. Schad adds that he does not expect the school to suspend any players until the NCAA probe runs its course.
The allegations center around a former tutor writing papers for players. As a result of the investigation, Carolina relegated nine players to the scout team, including players who were part of the initial NCAA investigation into the program.

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/08/26/central-figure-in-latest-unc-issue-is-butch-davis-nanny/

Joe Schad reports this evening that the tutor in question is none other than head coach Butch Davis' nanny. Rumors are flying around the world of college football that the nanny, among other things, wrote school papers for members of the Tar Heels and that upwards of seven members of UNC's starting defense have been tutored by this Davis employee.
Aug 27, 2010 12:53am
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Aug 27, 2010 12:56 AM
How retarded can you be Butch Davis? You're gonna have your fucking nanny type your players' papers? In an age where the NCAA is busting schools left and right?

You deserve to be coaching a Wyoming middle school football team.
Aug 27, 2010 12:56am
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Aug 27, 2010 1:13 AM
Is this a surprise? He is from the U. They know all about criminals and cheats.
Aug 27, 2010 1:13am
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Aug 27, 2010 1:20 AM
haha to be fair I had Jamaal Berry ask me to write his English paper for him last spring. Players are looking for the easy road the vast majority of the time...

...but coaches shouldn't be using their fucking nannies. WTF Butch I thought you were a good coach too.
Aug 27, 2010 1:20am
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Aug 27, 2010 1:25 AM
sjmvsfscs08;463262 wrote:haha to be fair I had Jamaal Berry ask me to write his English paper for him last spring. Players are looking for the easy road the vast majority of the time...

...but coaches shouldn't be using their fucking nannies. WTF Butch I thought you were a good coach too.

Exactly why Jamaal Berry will end up the same way Eric Haw and Louis Irizzary did.
Aug 27, 2010 1:25am
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Aug 27, 2010 6:20 AM
sjmvsfscs08;463262 wrote:haha to be fair I had Jamaal Berry ask me to write his English paper for him last spring. Players are looking for the easy road the vast majority of the time...

To be fair, accepting your story, one incident hardly provides evidence as to what "the vast majority" does.
Aug 27, 2010 6:20am
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Aug 27, 2010 7:00 AM
If true, Butch Davis should be out of college football forever.

If they aren't going to suspend anyone until the investigation is over, why would they move 9 guys to the scout team?
Aug 27, 2010 7:00am
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Aug 27, 2010 8:00 AM
sjmvsfscs08;463262 wrote:haha to be fair I had Jamaal Berry ask me to write his English paper for him last spring. Players are looking for the easy road the vast majority of the time....
haha OC's Forrest Gump speaks...and I really don't think it's fair to make a blanket statement like that-it's insulting to the vast majority of players who do things the right way haha
Aug 27, 2010 8:00am
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Aug 27, 2010 8:50 AM
vball10set;463325 wrote:haha OC's Forrest Gump speaks...and I really don't think it's fair to make a blanket statement like that-it's insulting to the vast majority of players who do things the right way haha

Is it an insult to most of the players doing things the right way? Or do most of the players do things the right way and it's an insult to all of them?
Aug 27, 2010 8:50am
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Aug 27, 2010 9:28 AM
Steel Valley Football;463367 wrote:Or do most of the players do things the right way and it's an insult to all of them?
if these are my options,then this-IMO it's wrong to implicate the whole for indiscretions by a few....again,JMO
Aug 27, 2010 9:28am
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Aug 27, 2010 9:36 AM
I don't see a problem in what Davis was doing.

Sincerely,

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Aug 27, 2010 9:36am
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Aug 27, 2010 10:56 AM
sjmvsfscs08;463262 wrote:haha to be fair I had Jamaal Berry ask me to write his English paper for him last spring. Players are looking for the easy road the vast majority of the time...

...but coaches shouldn't be using their fucking nannies. WTF Butch I thought you were a good coach too.

Interesting and ironic! I mean I had Brady Quinn, Claussen and Golden Tate all wanting me to write papers for them as well! Amazing how often this happens! ;)
Aug 27, 2010 10:56am
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Aug 27, 2010 12:57 PM
Brady Quinn could barely do his own math HW in high school...
Aug 27, 2010 12:57pm
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Aug 27, 2010 2:18 PM
Suspend them for the LSU game, then bring them back :)
Aug 27, 2010 2:18pm
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Aug 27, 2010 2:29 PM
centralbucksfan;463459 wrote:Interesting and ironic! I mean I had Brady Quinn, Claussen and Golden Tate all wanting me to write papers for them as well! Amazing how often this happens! ;)

So it must be the majority of players then, huh? :D

Asked me to write his English paper after I told him I had straight A's through English when we had lunch at Marketplace thingy on Neal. It's not that big of a deal but it's important to realize Butch Davis' kids aren't evil or the only ones looking to get by a bit easier. It happens everywhere; but, Butch used his fucking nanny, that's just terribly hilarious.
Aug 27, 2010 2:29pm
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Aug 27, 2010 2:37 PM
centralbucksfan;463459 wrote:Interesting and ironic! I mean I had Brady Quinn, Claussen and Golden Tate all wanting me to write papers for them as well! Amazing how often this happens! ;)

You have never been outside of 270, and I highly doubt your simple brain could get into ND. sjm is a student at Ohio State. Its believable. I had an English class with 3 offensive lineman - Bryce Bishop, Alex Stepanovich, and Adrien Clarke, as well as a history recitation with Stepanovich and in every class they either copied off my quizzes/exams or asked me to "help" them with papers. I didn't write the papers but I wouldn't be surprised if they found someone who would. I'm not saying it does or doesn't go on everywhere, but I did see it firsthand.

Also, its Clausen, not Claussen.
Aug 27, 2010 2:37pm
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Aug 27, 2010 2:45 PM
karen lotz......cbf is being sarcastic.
Aug 27, 2010 2:45pm
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Aug 27, 2010 2:49 PM
cats gone wild;463661 wrote:karen lotz......cbf is being sarcastic.

I'm well aware, but I think he was trying to take a shot at sjm because he is a Notre Dame fan. I doubt he knows he is an OSU student.
Aug 27, 2010 2:49pm
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Aug 27, 2010 3:25 PM
I know a tutor at OSU, and they certainly provide more than "help" on their studies. But the difference is, they are University sponsored tutors. You don't have some lady off the street just write players papers, just plain stupid.
Aug 27, 2010 3:25pm
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Aug 27, 2010 4:01 PM
And you wonder why the Ivy League doesn't allow athletic scholarships...
Aug 27, 2010 4:01pm
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Aug 27, 2010 4:47 PM
karen lotz;463651 wrote:You have never been outside of 270, and I highly doubt your simple brain could get into ND. sjm is a student at Ohio State. Its believable. I had an English class with 3 offensive lineman - Bryce Bishop, Alex Stepanovich, and Adrien Clarke, as well as a history recitation with Stepanovich and in every class they either copied off my quizzes/exams or asked me to "help" them with papers. I didn't write the papers but I wouldn't be surprised if they found someone who would. I'm not saying it does or doesn't go on everywhere, but I did see it firsthand.

Also, its Clausen, not Claussen.

Ha ha...believe you me little guy...I have probably lapped you educationally, a few times! But I don't feel the need to thump my chest, or do a freakin spell check on here!
And if some of you ND fans wan to start throwing crap around as you are, and name players personally, which I happen to think is out of line, I could do the same. I personally know some current and former ND players. Same shit goes on there as well. So don't kid yourself with your better then thou BS. But I refuse to get into a name game on a public forum. That is for low class individuals in my book.

And if you can't take a joke..get the f out.

Lastly, I could care less how "Closson" is spelled!

NO sarcasm in this post in case you couldn't figure that out!
Aug 27, 2010 4:47pm
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Aug 27, 2010 5:20 PM
centralbucksfan;463801 wrote:Ha ha...believe you me little guy...I have probably lapped you educationally, a few times! But I don't feel the need to thump my chest, or do a freakin spell check on here!
Spell check wouldnt fix that cbf......but, Im not in this argument.
Aug 27, 2010 5:20pm
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Aug 27, 2010 6:04 PM
cats gone wild;463826 wrote:Spell check wouldnt fix that cbf......but, Im not in this argument.

Nor would it fix that. ;)
Aug 27, 2010 6:04pm
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Aug 27, 2010 6:31 PM
sjmvsfscs08;463640 wrote:So it must be the majority of players then, huh? :D .
haha it was a play on your original statement,Forrest-let's try and keep up, ok? haha
Aug 27, 2010 6:31pm
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Aug 27, 2010 8:04 PM
karen lotz;463669 wrote:I'm well aware, but I think he was trying to take a shot at sjm because he is a Notre Dame fan. I doubt he knows he is an OSU student.
with sjm constantly reminding us, how could cbf NOT know he is a student--and thanks for defending the honor of the fans of the School of Our Lady :rolleyes:
Aug 27, 2010 8:04pm