majorspark;450588 wrote:True about Bush. Since Obama has over two years left in his term, one can't say with certainty. So far he is most definitely heading in the wrong direction.

I lived through Carter and that was pretty bad. This has been worse so far...but there's still a ways to go.

Writerbuckeye;450710 wrote:I lived through Carter and that was pretty bad. This has been worse so far...but there's still a ways to go.

I was in grade school during Carter's presidency. In the back seat in a line for gas, Ugh! We youngsters had little patience. Personally I think if things don't change Obama will make Carter look like a walk through the park.

Obama didn't fall all that much for me. He started off on about the 4th rung from the bottom of the latter to start out with. I wasn't captivated by him.
He's now on the very bottom rung.

ts1227;450524 wrote:Most definitely not the case. Obviously people have soured on him (and for damn good reason) on both sides. However, those who held racist sentiments all along are definitely loving every minute of it for all of the wrong reasons.

This is my problem with that logic. You've already cited there are "damn good reasons" to have soured on him, so while some people may have racist sentiments, that need not be the solely or even the primary reason for criticism. In all honesty, only someone capable and ready for the job can play the race card. I mean, it's equivalent to a football team that just got thumped 49-0 blaming the officiating.

FairwoodKing;450463 wrote:Nothing that Obama could do would make him worse than George W. Bush. GWB set the standard for being a truly lousy president.

Another perfect storm for ignorance is bliss.

Is his decline really stunning? Many people saw this coming, and therefore didn't vote for him in the first place.

Cleveland Buck;450891 wrote:Is his decline really stunning? Many people saw this coming, and therefore didn't vote for him in the first place.

Given he won, yes -- it's stunning. While many saw it (I was one) as being inevitable, many many more did not. That's why he's now President.

The decline of Obama ? LOL ! It would be highly unusual in tough times not to see a Prez decline. For the record however, polls also show the Rs with one of the lowest rankings EVER for politicos, way down at the bottom with Ds higher in ranking & the Prez higher still. Wanna guess what that means , lol ? I see nothing that prevents Obama from being re-elected vs a hated R party. And with the demographic tidal wave breaking against the Rs, this "decline" of Obama is laughable. Of course, our frontrunners here continue to develope hate threads for the audience of misfits & malcontents that collect here. The reading here continues to be amusing. Keep up the good work !

You can't decline any lower than.......... NOT MY PRESIDENT

Before this is over many of you will be .... saying the same thing ..... Belly was right....

majorspark;450588 wrote:True about Bush. Since Obama has over two years left in his term, one can't say with certainty. So far he is most definitely heading in the wrong direction.

True.

Paladin: If what you say is true, why then is Obama doing very poorly with independent voters right now? Not saying he can't recover, but he's in serious political trouble.

You missed reading my remarks correctly -- in tough economic times it would be highly unusual for a Prez NOT to decline. The key is, he remains highly favored ( relatively) with the public compared to the Rs , who are at the pits in approval with the public. Even the D politicos are ranked higher than Rs. When you break out the Independents, the same applies. Only with the Rs is Obama truly ranked low ( go figure,lol). What does that say ? LOL ! No one is arguing he hasn't fallen, but in comparasion, he is doing great in tough times compared to the Rs or the Ds. Join the yellers & screamers, who make lots of noise ,but don't affect the polling at all . The Rs remain a regional party strong with Southern ,conservative, religious whites and elsewhere, its a mixed bag with demographics working against the R party. They have no plan, they promote nothing but fear & hate and they are against women, gays, minorities, labor, the young, the elderly and now immigrants . And thats a winning formula as the population of all those people grow ? I'm not sure what you are smoking but..................

Paladin;451462 wrote:You missed reading my remarks correctly -- in tough economic times it would be highly unusual for a Prez NOT to decline. The key is, he remains highly favored ( relatively) with the public compared to the Rs , who are at the pits in approval with the public. Even the D politicos are ranked higher than Rs. When you break out the Independents, the same applies. Only with the Rs is Obama truly ranked low ( go figure,lol). What does that say ? LOL ! No one is arguing he hasn't fallen, but in comparasion, he is doing great in tough times compared to the Rs or the Ds. Join the yellers & screamers, who make lots of noise ,but don't affect the polling at all . The Rs remain a regional party strong with Southern ,conservative, religious whites and elsewhere, its a mixed bag with demographics working against the R party. They have no plan, they promote nothing but fear & hate and they are against women, gays, minorities, labor, the young, the elderly and now immigrants . And thats a winning formula as the population of all those people grow ? I'm not sure what you are smoking but..................

You're in no danger of getting a gig as a political analyst anytime soon.

Say it isn't so !!

Paladin;451462 wrote:You missed reading my remarks correctly -- in tough economic times it would be highly unusual for a Prez NOT to decline. The key is, he remains highly favored ( relatively) with the public compared to the Rs , who are at the pits in approval with the public. Even the D politicos are ranked higher than Rs. When you break out the Independents, the same applies. Only with the Rs is Obama truly ranked low ( go figure,lol). What does that say ? LOL ! No one is arguing he hasn't fallen, but in comparasion, he is doing great in tough times compared to the Rs or the Ds. Join the yellers & screamers, who make lots of noise ,but don't affect the polling at all . The Rs remain a regional party strong with Southern ,conservative, religious whites and elsewhere, its a mixed bag with demographics working against the R party. They have no plan, they promote nothing but fear & hate and they are against women, gays, minorities, labor, the young, the elderly and now immigrants . And thats a winning formula as the population of all those people grow ? I'm not sure what you are smoking but..................

To many fair minded people, the D's remain a regional party strong with women, gays, minorities, labor, the young, the elderly and now immigants, its a mixed bag with demographics working against the D party. They have no plan, the promote nothing but fear & hate against southerners, conservatives and religious whites.

Little Danny;451564 wrote:To many fair minded people, the D's remain a regional party strong with women, gays, minorities, labor, the young, the elderly and now immigants, its a mixed bag with demographics working against the D party. They have no plan, the promote nothing but fear & hate against southerners, conservatives and religious whites.

You forgot: And seem to only promote programs that are anti-business and seek to expand government and people's dependency on government.

ccrunner609;450260 wrote:I wonder if history will write him in as the worst president ever?

Not even close. That would be Carter of LBJ

QuakerOats;450481 wrote:
Did not spend time nor money on ridiculous amounts of golf, concerts and parties at the white house, or vacations during times of crisis.

You're kidding right??

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You're kidding right??

believer;450496 wrote:.

As bad as "W" may have been to some folks, in a head-to-head race I'd vote for Bush in a slam dunk over BHO each and every time. No comparison.

Then you're not very bright

Writerbuckeye;450710 wrote:I lived through Carter and that was pretty bad. This has been worse so far...but there's still a ways to go.

If you really believe that statement....I feel sorry for you

Belly35;451371 wrote:You can't decline any lower than.......... NOT MY PRESIDENT

Before this is over many of you will be .... saying the same thing ..... Belly was right....

1.He IS your President Belly weather you like it or not

2.You haven't been right yet....so what would change now

Little Danny;451564 wrote:To many fair minded people, the D's remain a regional party strong with women, gays, minorities, labor, the young, the elderly and now immigants, its a mixed bag with demographics working against the D party. They have no plan, the promote nothing but fear & hate against southerners, conservatives and religious whites.

In my experience the elderly have been or are increasingly conservative.

good old President Obama is killing those taliban leaders, those people you see as not necessarily bad guys.

Paladin;451462 wrote:You missed reading my remarks correctly -- in tough economic times it would be highly unusual for a Prez NOT to decline. The key is, he remains highly favored ( relatively) with the public compared to the Rs , who are at the pits in approval with the public. Even the D politicos are ranked higher than Rs. When you break out the Independents, the same applies. Only with the Rs is Obama truly ranked low ( go figure,lol). What does that say ? LOL ! No one is arguing he hasn't fallen, but in comparasion, he is doing great in tough times compared to the Rs or the Ds. Join the yellers & screamers, who make lots of noise ,but don't affect the polling at all . The Rs remain a regional party strong with Southern ,conservative, religious whites and elsewhere, its a mixed bag with demographics working against the R party. They have no plan, they promote nothing but fear & hate and they are against women, gays, minorities, labor, the young, the elderly and now immigrants . And thats a winning formula as the population of all those people grow ? I'm not sure what you are smoking but..................

fish82;451530 wrote:You're in no danger of getting a gig as a political analyst anytime soon.

He could work for MSLSD when Keith Olbermann gets canned and/or ends up in psychiatric institution.

Belly35;451371 wrote:You can't decline any lower than.......... NOT MY PRESIDENT

Before this is over many of you will be .... saying the same thing ..... Belly was right....

Whether you like it or not.....he is your President Belly....he's everyone's President. And there is nothing you can do about it,well for atleast two years,but that's not going to happen

gibby08;453274 wrote:Less that 150 years ago,slavery was the law of the land. Now,the Democratic Party will nominate a black man to be president of the United States. And that is historic by any definition. -Charlie Gibson June 3rd,2008

As though it were not a republican president that signed the Emacipation Proclamation, nor a greater majority of republicans that passed the civil rights legislation.

QuakerOats;453434 wrote:As though it were not a republican president that signed the Emacipation Proclamation, nor a greater majority of republicans that passed the civil rights legislation.

What's the matter with you, QO? Don't you understand history must be rewritten to match the "facts"?

QuakerOats;453434 wrote:As though it were not a republican president that signed the Emancipation Proclamation, nor a greater majority of republicans that passed the civil rights legislation.

Shhhhhhhh....Quaker don't you understand that when you argue facts and logic with liberals their heads explode?

QuakerOats;453434 wrote:As though it were not a republican president that signed the Emacipation Proclamation, nor a greater majority of republicans that passed the civil rights legislation.

Abraham Lincoln's policies would be torn to shreds by the current Republicans and conservatives.