Does anyone have pet insurance for their dog(s) and/or cat(s)?

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Jun 27, 2010 9:59 PM
Our 2 year old schnoodle had a little episode tonight. He got really wobbly and when he tried to walk would fall over to his right side. After a few minutes of just being wobbly he started to shake really bad and making a whining noise like he was having a stroke or something. We jumped in the car to run to the emergency vet clinic but by the time we were on the road for about a minute he had stopped shaking and was perfectly fine. We kept driving to the clinic since it was only 10 minutes away just in case he started up again. After sitting in the parking lot for a few minutes and him showing no signs of being anything but perfectly fine we headed back home.

He had the wobbly thing happen 3 other times in the past, but it was usually a lot shorter and a lot less violent with the shaking. No problems ever showed up in routine vet visits but I am going to take him in tomorrow and have them run some tests to figure out what is up, clearly he's got something wrong with him.

On the ride back home my wife and I started talking about pet health insurance since it seems like we might have some ongoing vet/medications bills in the future. Anyone else out there have it for their pets? If so, any recommendations for insurance companies?
Jun 27, 2010 9:59pm
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Jun 27, 2010 10:13 PM
VPI is good shit. My gf recommends that people have pet insurance. She has had to put many savable dogs down because people wouldn't spend the money to save it.
Jun 27, 2010 10:13pm
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Jun 27, 2010 10:15 PM
Oh, and her first guess to your dog's problem is epilepsy provided that the seizures have happened over the whole course of the dog's life
Jun 27, 2010 10:15pm
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Jun 27, 2010 10:19 PM
How much does insurance cost versus a bullet?
Jun 27, 2010 10:19pm
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Jun 27, 2010 10:41 PM
catch it in a coat and smack it with a hammer
Jun 27, 2010 10:41pm
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Jun 27, 2010 10:55 PM
--If-- you can get insurance for this dog, that is... :( With the known issue, it's going to cost you quite a bit.
Jun 27, 2010 10:55pm
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Jun 27, 2010 10:58 PM
justincredible;403377 wrote:Our 2 year old schnoodle had a little episode tonight. He got really wobbly and when he tried to walk would fall over to his right side. After a few minutes of just being wobbly he started to shake really bad and making a whining noise like he was having a stroke or something. We jumped in the car to run to the emergency vet clinic but by the time we were on the road for about a minute he had stopped shaking and was perfectly fine. We kept driving to the clinic since it was only 10 minutes away just in case he started up again. After sitting in the parking lot for a few minutes and him showing no signs of being anything but perfectly fine we headed back home.

He had the wobbly thing happen 3 other times in the past, but it was usually a lot shorter and a lot less violent with the shaking. No problems ever showed up in routine vet visits but I am going to take him in tomorrow and have them run some tests to figure out what is up, clearly he's got something wrong with him.

On the ride back home my wife and I started talking about pet health insurance since it seems like we might have some ongoing vet/medications bills in the future. Anyone else out there have it for their pets? If so, any recommendations for insurance companies?


I'm not sure of the price but you have to way out the expense. We lost a dog a day after we spent $4500 to figure out what was wrong with him. It is something you might want to check in to.
LJ;403395 wrote:Oh, and her first guess to your dog's problem is epilepsy provided that the seizures have happened over the whole course of the dog's life
My dad's dog had these same symptoms and it was epilepsy.
Jun 27, 2010 10:58pm
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Jun 27, 2010 11:07 PM
Cat Food Flambe';403426 wrote:--If-- you can get insurance for this dog, that is... :( With the known issue, it's going to cost you quite a bit.

Yeah, I figured as much.
Jun 27, 2010 11:07pm
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Jun 27, 2010 11:09 PM
Unfortunately there probably isn't a real on point answer for this, just educate yourself with the coverage and limitations on pet insurance, and probably LJ and his girlfriend are good sources for info.

Generally, insurance is a loser's game for the insured, but often is a necessary game. It can be mandated by state law (auto insurance, at least with respect to liability), mandated by contract (home insurance, assuming one has a mortgage), or an 'elective' measure, in which case I'd throw pet insurance in the same category as jewelry insurance. It is just a matter of how much risk one is willing to take re premiums and costs of the insured event.

We looked into pet insurance, but even with sponsored deals on premiums, the relatively low monthly costs didn't meet our risk expectations, if something happened to our dog we'd just suck it up and pay whatever for treating the pet (and unfortunately to LJ's point, some folks are willing to forego insurance without having the ability to meet the cost without insurance which can result in tragic events).
Jun 27, 2010 11:09pm
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Jun 27, 2010 11:13 PM
justincredible;403453 wrote:Yeah, I figured as much.

If it's just epilepsy that doesn't happen very often, they will cover your dog but not cover any treatment for any seizures. If it is secondary epilepsy, they will not cover the underlying condition.

Pet insurance isn't like human insurance. They will cover every dog, but decide whether or not they will reimburse you. Remember, they don't pay anything upfront, it's all a reimbursement program. So they will not deny your dog because it has epilepsy, they will just refuse to reimburse for epilepsy treatment.
Jun 27, 2010 11:13pm
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Jun 27, 2010 11:16 PM
LJ;403469 wrote:If it's just epilepsy that doesn't happen very often, they will cover your dog but not cover any treatment for any seizures. If it is secondary epilepsy, they will not cover the underlying condition.

Pet insurance isn't like human insurance. They will cover every dog, but decide whether or not they will reimburse you. Remember, they don't pay anything upfront, it's all a reimbursement program. So they will not deny your dog because it has epilepsy, they will just refuse to reimburse for epilepsy treatment.

Gotcha.
Jun 27, 2010 11:16pm
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Jun 27, 2010 11:17 PM
Manhattan Buckeye;403458 wrote:Unfortunately there probably isn't a real on point answer for this, just educate yourself with the coverage and limitations on pet insurance, and probably LJ and his girlfriend are good sources for info.

I actually started doing a lot of research and studying in hopes of becoming a VPI agent, too bad I researched the products for about 2 weeks before I researched the requirements to be an agent, you have to be a licensed Vet Tech or Veterinarian in order to be an agent... DOH
Jun 27, 2010 11:17pm
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Jun 27, 2010 11:19 PM
So assuming he does have epilepsy, is it just "treated" by taking medication?
Jun 27, 2010 11:19pm
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Jun 27, 2010 11:25 PM
justincredible;403483 wrote:So assuming he does have epilepsy, is it just "treated" by taking medication?

Depends on how frequent they are is what she says. If they get a few per month they will treat it, but if the dog has had 4 in 1 1/2 years or so, they don't really do anything.
Jun 27, 2010 11:25pm
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Jun 27, 2010 11:36 PM
yes these are the two most commonly prescribed
phenobarbital and potassium bromide (KBr)
Jun 27, 2010 11:36pm
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Jun 28, 2010 12:30 AM
Haha, I'll admit that I've never in my life thought of pet health insurance let alone heard of it. But, now I may wanna get some. What's like a ballpark monthly premium I'd pay for my dog???
Jun 28, 2010 12:30am
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Jun 28, 2010 12:49 AM
Strapping Young Lad;403597 wrote:Haha, I'll admit that I've never in my life thought of pet health insurance let alone heard of it. But, now I may wanna get some. What's like a ballpark monthly premium I'd pay for my dog???

https://www.petinsurance.com/enroll/Quote1.aspx

ballpark is 20-60
Jun 28, 2010 12:49am
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Jun 28, 2010 1:04 AM
Personally I try to maintain a sizable emergency/slush fund. I use it for unexpected financial issues. Like vet bills, vehicle maintenance, dental costs, eye care etc. It all depends on your personal financial situation. No doubt if you can self insure in these particular situations it is to your financial benefit.
Jun 28, 2010 1:04am
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Jun 28, 2010 8:55 AM
No...but I started a roth IRA for my dog in case I go before he does, he will have something to fall back on. But he'll definitely have to go out and find another owner if he expects to maintain the same level of life-style.
Jun 28, 2010 8:55am
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Jun 28, 2010 11:31 AM
When I checked into this (admittedly it was quite a few years ago) the costs vs what they would actually cover was ridiculously weighted in favor of the monthly premium.

So why bother?

I have not checked it out lately, however. Perhaps things have changed as the market has grown.

With three cats (I had four but we had to put down our 17 year old male in November), vet costs can run high sometimes -- but I put money aside knowing an expensive vet bill will happen at least a few times each year. However, when I adopted these animals from shelters, I made a pledge to care for them as long as they live, and I intend to keep that pledge.

I'm wondering: Last year, one of our cats had to be treated for hypothyroid disease where they go in and use radiation to destroy the thyroid gland. It's an expensive treatment (about $1,000) but very successful. Our cat is fine and her old self again with (hopefully) many healthy years ahead of her. Would this insurance have covered something like this? Because years ago, it would not.
Jun 28, 2010 11:31am
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Jun 28, 2010 12:21 PM
I am thinking, especially since it seems like his epilepsy bills (assuming that is what he has) would not be covered with insurance anyway, that it isn't going to be worth it for us. We've got a pretty healthy savings built up for emergencies so we'd be able to cover any vet bill due to an accident or anything like that.
Jun 28, 2010 12:21pm
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Jun 28, 2010 12:22 PM
Writerbuckeye;403809 wrote:When I checked into this (admittedly it was quite a few years ago) the costs vs what they would actually cover was ridiculously weighted in favor of the monthly premium.

So why bother?

I have not checked it out lately, however. Perhaps things have changed as the market has grown.

With three cats (I had four but we had to put down our 17 year old male in November), vet costs can run high sometimes -- but I put money aside knowing an expensive vet bill will happen at least a few times each year. However, when I adopted these animals from shelters, I made a pledge to care for them as long as they live, and I intend to keep that pledge.

I'm wondering: Last year, one of our cats had to be treated for hypothyroid disease where they go in and use radiation to destroy the thyroid gland. It's an expensive treatment (about $1,000) but very successful. Our cat is fine and her old self again with (hopefully) many healthy years ahead of her. Would this insurance have covered something like this? Because years ago, it would not.

Yes, you would probably get like like $500 back
Jun 28, 2010 12:22pm
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Jun 29, 2010 1:24 PM
Sorry about your dog, Justin. We have pet insurance and have gotten a great deal of use from it. Hope the little guy is ok.
Jun 29, 2010 1:24pm
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Jun 29, 2010 1:33 PM
No pet insurance but probably should have it. I'm still trying to figure out a way to claim my cats on my taxes as dependants. ;)
Jun 29, 2010 1:33pm
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Jun 29, 2010 2:53 PM
justincredible;403377 wrote:After sitting in the parking lot for a few minutes

I'm sorry, but I read this (the first time) as "after shitting in the parking lot for a few minutes." I laughed my ass off until I read it again.
Jun 29, 2010 2:53pm