sleeper wrote:Does anyone really think Thriller and its stupid dance is better than Crank that soulja boy?

LOL. I knew it, sleeper is having sex with that dude from Jersey Shore.

homefield;402137 wrote:Here is another list for you Gibby08

OZZIE
AC/DC
PINK FLOYD
BEATLES
NUGENT
THE WHO
VAN HALEN
MOZART
BACH
CHUBBY CHECKER
NEIL YOUNG
STING
ROLLING STONES

Looks like he still does not make the cut

When we decide to make a list of top 5 sex offenders I will bet he makes the list.

Do you honestly believe what you're typing anymore??

I'm not even going to waste my time responding any further

Not a huge MJ fan but do recognize his talent. He had more talent that ANY artist out there pushing this crap they call music today.

sleeper;402501 wrote: Does anyone really think Thriller and its stupid dance is better than Crank that soulja boy?

The answer is no.

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At least with some of your other arguments you can pull them off as legitimately believing what you are saying and it's plausible... this one, not so much.

The reason your trolling has been so effective is you have never taken such an outrageous stance. Sure, you're homerific when it comes to sports teams, but that's normal.

But I doubt there is one person in the world that legitimately thinks Crank that Soulja Boy is a better song than Thriller.

GoPens;402551 wrote:Not a huge MJ fan but do recognize his talent. He had more talent that ANY artist out there pushing this crap they call music today.

Prove it. What separates MJ from any of the established stars of today's age?

He had a unique form of music for his time, established many followers, and used that to build into the mind of the future generations that he has any talent. His music is very average, its nothing special, and I've never understood the obsession with his dancing, it's good sure, but nowhere near the level of today's dancers. Like I said, I'd love to see MJ do any of the stuff these guys are doing now, he's behind the times, this is the 21st century, the moonwalk is stupid.

But I doubt there is one person in the world that legitimately thinks Crank that Soulja Boy is a better song than Thriller.

It's not better, but its about the same. Did anyone watch the thriller music video? It's absolutely retarded, just like crank that soulja boy.

sleeper;402562 wrote:Prove it. What separates MJ from any of the established stars of today's age?

prove what makes the stars of today any better than MJ. your only argument is that because the stuff of today is newer, it is better. and if the moonwalk is stupid, wasnt it Usher trying to do it during some performance?

Glory Days;402620 wrote:prove what makes the stars of today any better than MJ. your only argument is that because the stuff of today is newer, it is better. and if the moonwalk is stupid, wasnt it Usher trying to do it during some performance?

Exactly, newer is better. They took the boring, pedantic moves of MJ and turned them into something about 1000x better.

Maybe if CB started molesting children, he'd sell a billion records too. LOL

sleeper is just trolling.

like normal.

sleeper;402562 wrote:Prove it. What separates MJ from any of the established stars of today's age?

He had a unique form of music for his time, established many followers, and used that to build into the mind of the future generations that he has any talent. His music is very average, its nothing special, and I've never understood the obsession with his dancing, it's good sure, but nowhere near the level of today's dancers. Like I said, I'd love to see MJ do any of the stuff these guys are doing now, he's behind the times, this is the 21st century, the moonwalk is stupid.

Prove I'm wrong troll. Today's music is shit. And you can take that to the bank.

GoPens;402944 wrote:Prove I'm wrong troll. Today's music is shit. And you can take that to the bank.

If MJ's music wasn't shit, it'd still be in the mainstream. Things naturally get better as time goes along, I really can't think of one thing that was better 30 years ago, can you? Oh but music is the exception right?

LOL please.

sleeper;402985 wrote:I really can't think of one thing that was better 30 years ago, can you?

Toyota


btw, you're not old enough to know what it was like 30 years ago, so you can't ask that question - you're not qualified! lol

Skyhook79;402419 wrote:Let me guess you have never made a mistake or done anything remotely stupid before in your life??

I don't feed cookies to little boys in bed and label it "sweet", hold little babies with towels on their heads over a railing several stories high, bleach my skin (no need though...I'm already white ), have multiple plastic surgeries to alter my appearance because I hate my looks, have offspring with other women via artificial insemination (I prefer the "hands-on" approach ), etc., etc.

And my mistakes and actions do not, have not, and will not influence the minds of millions of young fans around the world.

Apples to oranges but nice rebuttal anyway.

Yes, yes he's dead now so let's move on but DO NOT insinuate that we should not evaluate MJ's actions. ANY public figure is open to scrutiny. He got paid well for his public stupidity.

CenterBHSFan;402989 wrote:Toyota


btw, you're not old enough to know what it was like 30 years ago, so you can't ask that question - you're not qualified! lol

I'm lazy, but do you really want to compare specs of a Toyota 30 years ago to a Toyota now?

I know what you mean, given the current recall, but is that seriously the best you can come up with? A recall for a single car manufacturer?

sleeper;402985 wrote:If MJ's music wasn't shit, it'd still be in the mainstream. Things naturally get better as time goes along, I really can't think of one thing that was better 30 years ago, can you? Oh but music is the exception right?

LOL please.

just because music is mainstream does not make it good. music is the exception. it's based on opinion, not fact. you cannot factually say that today's music is better than MJ. and the thing is, you can still hear MJ's music on the radio today. 30 years from now, Usher and Chris Brown wont be on the radio, and you can take that to the bank.

sleeper;402985 wrote:If MJ's music wasn't shit, it'd still be in the mainstream. Things naturally get better as time goes along, I really can't think of one thing that was better 30 years ago, can you? Oh but music is the exception right?

LOL please.

Name one current mainstream "artist" that will be remembered 30 years from now like MJ. Or 50 years from now like the Beatles. Good luck with that...there isn't any.

sleeper;402985 wrote:If MJ's music wasn't shit, it'd still be in the mainstream. Things naturally get better as time goes along, I really can't think of one thing that was better 30 years ago, can you? Oh but music is the exception right?

LOL please.

GoPens;402551 wrote:Not a huge MJ fan but do recognize his talent. He had more talent that ANY artist out there pushing this crap they call music today.

I pray to god I never adopt this attitude. Do you people just choose not to enjoy the last 40 years of your life so you can pretend everything was better back in the day?

Glory Days;403103 wrote:just because music is mainstream does not make it good. music is the exception. it's based on opinion, not fact. you cannot factually say that today's music is better than MJ. and the thing is, you can still hear MJ's music on the radio today. 30 years from now, Usher and Chris Brown wont be on the radio, and you can take that to the bank.

I guarantee CB and Usher are on the radio 30 years from now, on the NO ONE GIVES A F FM station. Once again, what seperates MJ from CB and Usher? What does MJ do that CB and Usher don't do?

Your logic is undeniable, I'll give you that LOL

who gives a shit? piece of shit child rapist got what he deserved.

GoPens;403106 wrote:Name one current mainstreat "artist" that will be remembered 30 years from now like MJ. Or 50 years from now like the Beatles. Good luck with that...there isn't any.

Why does this matter? MJ was a first mover, an innovator in the music industry, of course he's going to be "remembered". Lucky for us his shit has been improved on 10 times over and we don't have to listen to anymore of his junk.

I'm sure you will still find plenty of people who think 1900's swing music is still the greatest ever, LOL. Cuz that's "real" music, none of that shit that's pretending to music now-a-days, right? LOL

Sleeper, this is even too outrageous for you to truly defend.

Your position that anything new is automatically better than anything prior is just as absurd that all the best stuff is from the past.

So you honestly believe artists out there in every medium (paitning, music, writing, etc.) must be better than the masters of the past (Monet, Rembrandt, van Gogh, Mozart, Beethoven, Tchaikovsky, da Vinci, Dante, Shakespear, Tolstoy, Twain, etc.).

So as a society we are better off just pretty much ignoring anything from the past as it clearly must be inferior quality to anything we are producing today?

And if MJ's music was better today, it would still being played over this newer terrible music right? I mean if the new music came out and more people still thought MJ's was the best, they'd play MJ's to keep their ratings high.

Clearly this is not the case, you've been ruined. Give up.

sleeper;403146 wrote:And if MJ's music was better today, it would still being played over this newer terrible music right? I mean if the new music came out and more people still thought MJ's was the best, they'd play MJ's to keep their ratings high.

Clearly this is not the case, you've been ruined. Give up.

People like new things... especially young people. Young people like to pioneer new paths, like "fresh" things. This isn't a new phenomenon and clearly explain the last point you tried to make.

I bet more Toyota Avalon's sold this year than 1969 Camaro's... is it a better car?

No you sound like an idiot any of the music that was played 20 years ago is not played today but still the music today is garbage. No one in R&B makes their own stuff they sample the music you are trashing. If MJ and his music wasn't relevant we wouldn't be talking about him now. Now you have been ruined. Give up.