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Nov 21, 2009 11:32 PM
Any bowl would love to have Iowa, but Penn State is a different animal. Penn State is one of the 5 or 10 teams that will always be a top choice if available.
Nov 21, 2009 11:32pm
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Nov 22, 2009 12:33 AM
Oh gosh I hope that Iowa/Penn State doesn't get a BCS game. That would be ugly.
Nov 22, 2009 12:33am
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Nov 22, 2009 12:44 AM
Well, you tell me, your paycheck depends on how many tickets and concessions are sold at your bowl game and what you can charge for advertising during the game and what rating your game draws. You can choose Penn State or Boise State. Who do you pick?
Nov 22, 2009 12:44am
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Nov 22, 2009 12:49 AM
Cleveland Buck wrote: Well, you tell me, your paycheck depends on how many tickets and concessions are sold at your bowl game and what you can charge for advertising during the game and what rating your game draws. You can choose Penn State or Boise State. Who do you pick?
Boise State. Because I want to watch good football. I couldn't sleep at night knowing I deprived millions of people the opportunity to watch a good football team try to take down a big conference team. Ratings argument is bogus. Look at what Boise and Oklahoma pulled off in the OT game.

What has Penn State done for ratings? I know when they were at the Rose Bowl recently I had the game turned off before halftime. They were getting killed
Nov 22, 2009 12:49am
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Al Bundy

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Nov 22, 2009 12:56 AM
jordo212000 wrote:
Cleveland Buck wrote: Well, you tell me, your paycheck depends on how many tickets and concessions are sold at your bowl game and what you can charge for advertising during the game and what rating your game draws. You can choose Penn State or Boise State. Who do you pick?
Boise State. Because I want to watch good football. I couldn't sleep at night knowing I deprived millions of people the opportunity to watch a good football team try to take down a big conference team. Ratings argument is bogus. Look at what Boise and Oklahoma pulled off in the OT game.

What has Penn State done for ratings? I know when they were at the Rose Bowl recently I had the game turned off before halftime. They were getting killed
Penn State will bring more people than Boise.
Nov 22, 2009 12:56am
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Nov 22, 2009 12:58 AM
Al Bundy wrote:

Penn State will bring more people than Boise.
Yeah, probably and its a shame that it comes down to that. Let's all cheer and await Penn St's annual spanking in the national spotlight
Nov 22, 2009 12:58am
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Nov 22, 2009 12:58 AM
2009 Rose Bowl: USC vs. Penn State
Rating 12.6

2007 Fiesta Bowl: Oklahoma vs. Boise State
Rating 7.5

Your bowl went bankrupt. Sorry.
Nov 22, 2009 12:58am
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Nov 22, 2009 1:01 AM
I don't care what those ratings say. I would be willing to bet that there were far more people watching Oklahoma-Boise then were watching USC clownstop Penn State. Even if you are right (doubtful, the way ratings are compiled is flawed IMO), I still think its a shame that bowl matchups are decided by who has the sexier tradition.
Nov 22, 2009 1:01am
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Nov 22, 2009 1:03 AM
jordo212000 wrote: I don't care what those ratings say. I would be willing to bet that there were far more people watching Oklahoma-Boise then were watching USC clownstop Penn State. Even if you are right (doubtful, the way ratings are compiled is flawed IMO), I still think its a shame that bowl matchups are decided by who has the sexier tradition.
Don't let the facts get in the way of trying to prove your point :)
Nov 22, 2009 1:03am
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Nov 22, 2009 1:06 AM
Companies use those ratings to determine how much they will pay for commercials during those bowls. It's all about money. Right or wrong, that what's it's all about, and in this economy, they can't afford to put the cute little mid major who feasted on cupcakes all year into one of these games.
Nov 22, 2009 1:06am
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Nov 22, 2009 1:06 AM
Al Bundy wrote: Don't let the facts get in the way of trying to prove your point :)
I don't really have a point. Its all opinion. I have watched a ton of football and Penn State is terrible. There is no getting around it. They will get humiliated. I just would rather see Boise take on somebody of relevance instead of seeing the same old retreads get knocked around
Nov 22, 2009 1:06am
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Nov 22, 2009 1:08 AM
As a college football fan, I could care less what the ratings say. Boise is a far better pick than PSU in terms of putting on an interesting game. PSU/Iowa would just make the Big Ten look worse if either gets in a BCS bowl. Who would have rather watched PSU/USC last year than Boise/Oklahoma in 2007?
Nov 22, 2009 1:08am
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Nov 22, 2009 1:09 AM
I agree that PSU shouldn't get the nod, Iowa should be the team imo. If Stanzi doesn't get hurt they beat NW and possibly beat OSU but not likely imo.

Remember that Iowa lost their RB and QB, which I know Stanzi will be back for the bowl game. They should get the nod imo. Losses too 10 win OSU and 8 win Iowa.
Nov 22, 2009 1:09am
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Nov 22, 2009 1:09 AM
Cleveland Buck wrote: Companies use those ratings to determine how much they will pay for commercials during those bowls. It's all about money. Right or wrong, that what's it's all about
Thats been my point all along. The current system sucks.
they can't afford to put the cute little mid major who feasted on cupcakes all year into one of these games.
Yeah you're right, they did beat Oregon, but have you heard Boise's problem? Nobody will play them. They can't get a game scheduled here in the next year or so and they are offering the big boys a 1 game match (with Boise travelling) a two game series, etc. And nobody will play them.

So IMO let's force the big boys to play them and see what happens. Boise usually doesnt disappoint.
Nov 22, 2009 1:09am
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Nov 22, 2009 1:09 AM
jordo212000 wrote:
Al Bundy wrote: Don't let the facts get in the way of trying to prove your point :)
I don't really have a point. Its all opinion. I have watched a ton of football and Penn State is terrible. There is no getting around it. They will get humiliated. I just would rather see Boise take on somebody of relevance instead of seeing the same old retreads get knocked around
Boise has only played one good team all year. If they want to be looked at on a national scale, they should schedule all BCS conference teams for their non-conference games. There are several teams in the country that would have gone undefeated with the Boise schedule. Oregon was the only game that they played all year.
Nov 22, 2009 1:09am
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Nov 22, 2009 1:11 AM
Cleveland Buck wrote: Companies use those ratings to determine how much they will pay for commercials during those bowls. It's all about money. Right or wrong, that what's it's all about, and in this economy, they can't afford to put the cute little mid major who feasted on cupcakes all year into one of these games.
thats funny, if you take out the words "little" and "mid", you could describe Penn States season. Seriously, whats PSU's best win? Northwestern?

Now how does that compare to Boise, who beat Oregon?

Also, It's possible that the bottom half of the big ten would be in the bottom half of the wac.
Nov 22, 2009 1:11am
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Nov 22, 2009 1:11 AM
What big boys are Boise offering? I'd like to know.

PSU doesn't deserve the bid imo. They have a horrible OOC and they lost too Iowa and OSU. They didn't even play Wisky who has 8 wins.
Nov 22, 2009 1:11am
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Nov 22, 2009 1:16 AM
devil1197 wrote: What big boys are Boise offering? I'd like to know.

PSU doesn't deserve the bid imo. They have a horrible OOC and they lost too Iowa and OSU. They didn't even play Wisky who has 8 wins.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=dw-boise110709

No names mentioned. But interesting read nonetheless

EDIT: Trep beat me haha
Nov 22, 2009 1:16am
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Al Bundy

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Nov 22, 2009 1:16 AM
trep14 wrote: I think this is the article jordo is referring to:

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=dw-boise110709&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
How many teams even have an opening on that date in 2011? Most football schedules are filled many more than 2 years in advance.
Nov 22, 2009 1:16am
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Nov 22, 2009 1:17 AM
I'd like to know what teams they have been contacting though. For all we know they could be calling Indiana and Vanderbilt.

With teams like OSU, they already have their big OOC games locked up years in advance (Miami, Oklahoma, UT etc). Florida will always have FSU and Miami. I am not sure what the other big, elite programs schedules for the future are but its 2009. You may have trouble getting tough teams because thats too late too schedule.
Nov 22, 2009 1:17am
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Nov 22, 2009 1:17 AM
Al Bundy wrote:
trep14 wrote: I think this is the article jordo is referring to:

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=dw-boise110709&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
How many teams even have an opening on that date in 2011? Most football schedules are filled many more than 2 years in advance.
don't shoot the messenger dude
Nov 22, 2009 1:17am
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Nov 22, 2009 1:18 AM
devil1197 wrote: I'd like to know what teams they have been contacting though. For all we know they could be calling Indiana and Vanderbilt.
You mean they'd be playing Penn State's schedule? "GASP" haha
Nov 22, 2009 1:18am
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Nov 22, 2009 1:20 AM
Penn state OOC schedule

*Akron
*Syracuse
*Temple
*Eastern Illinois

Wow. That scares me. What a gauntlet that must have been.
Nov 22, 2009 1:20am
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Nov 22, 2009 1:20 AM
jordo212000 wrote:
devil1197 wrote: I'd like to know what teams they have been contacting though. For all we know they could be calling Indiana and Vanderbilt.
You mean they'd be playing Penn State's schedule? "GASP" haha
Yeah, but PSU has to play a tougher conference schedule top to bottom imo. Although PSU had a weak OOC this year, they usually get a BCS school like Oregon State and ND over the past couple seasons. Next season they have Alabama.
Nov 22, 2009 1:20am