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Belly35

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Jun 8, 2010 12:03 PM
Do you think that head should roll and ass kicked in the Obama Administration over this oil spill?

Has the Public Servant Clown Administration failed the American people?

Beset by problems at home and abroad Obama has come across as clinical in his response to the Gulf oil spill. But if Obama is to fulfill his bright promise of "change," failed policies should be revised. Heads should roll.

http://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/John-Hughes/2010/0608/Gulf-oil-spill-could-mark-a-turning-point-for-Obama

http://thehill.com/blogs/e2-wire/677-e2-wire/98439-mcconnell-blames-administration-for-gulf-oil-spill

http://www.politico.com/arena/archive/whats-sestak-hiding.html
Jun 8, 2010 12:03pm
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Jun 8, 2010 4:58 PM
I don't know if heads should roll but I will admit the Anointed One is in WAY over his head.
Jun 8, 2010 4:58pm
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Jun 8, 2010 9:47 PM
if heads didnt roll in the past administration , they arent ever gonna roll
Jun 8, 2010 9:47pm
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Jun 8, 2010 9:58 PM
Whose heads are we talking about?
Jun 8, 2010 9:58pm
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Jun 9, 2010 12:50 AM
What administration? Bush's? Some did*, so now what are you going to dwell on? Let's try to concentrate on Obama's mistakes, not immediately deflect to Bush, especially when you are wrong.

*Rumsfeld, Libby, etc.
Jun 9, 2010 12:50am
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Jun 9, 2010 4:14 AM
KnightRyder;383495 wrote:if heads didnt roll in the past administration , they arent ever gonna roll
Wrong. 42 Bush Administration heads rolled....not unusual though. ALL administrations have heads roll.
Jun 9, 2010 4:14am
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Jun 9, 2010 8:17 AM
Sure, I think heads should roll in this administration.

Rahm Emmanuel, anyone??! If there's anybody who wouldn't want R.E. to be evicted, I sure would like to know who it is. It would be highly entertaining to learn the reasons why he should be kept.
Jun 9, 2010 8:17am
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Jun 9, 2010 9:08 AM
believer;383233 wrote:I don't know if heads should roll but I will admit the Anointed One is in WAY over his head.

The Savior has been way over his head from day one
Jun 9, 2010 9:08am
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Jun 9, 2010 9:22 AM
ccrunner609;383982 wrote:I find it amazing how things such an oil spill in the gulf is so politicized. There isnt one person in DC that stepped foot on that rig, recieved daily updates on how that rig was doing before it blew up, made any decisions about day to day operations ect.........

100% agreed. It is extremely annoying by both sides how much politics has taken over this issue.
Jun 9, 2010 9:22am
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Jun 9, 2010 9:56 AM
ptown_trojans_1;384024 wrote:100% agreed. It is extremely annoying by both sides how much politics has taken over this issue.

I could be wrong but I think the Public Servant accelerator this to a political cluster f*** …. and now wishes he had not
Jun 9, 2010 9:56am
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Jun 9, 2010 10:03 AM
Belly35;384073 wrote:I could be wrong but I think the Public Servant accelerator this to a political cluster f*** …. and now wishes he had not

Maybe, but both the media and the pundits are another reason for that.

I'm more concerned about fixing the problem, then the fallout can come.
Jun 9, 2010 10:03am
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Jun 9, 2010 10:13 AM
ptown_trojans_1;384081 wrote:Maybe, but both the media and the pundits are another reason for that.

I'm more concerned about fixing the problem, then the fallout can come.

Fix the probem....drill in shallow water or on land .....simple solution
Keep goverment out of the way of Business, Production and Profit ....have goverment inspector do the job and keep lobbist out of goverment.
Jun 9, 2010 10:13am
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Jun 9, 2010 10:25 AM
Belly35;384090 wrote:Fix the probem....drill in swallow water or on land .....simple solution
Keep goverment out of the way of Business, Production and Profit ....have goverment inspector do the job and keep lobbist out of goverment.

We already drill in shallow water. As for land, I'll leave that to the locals and states.
As to government in the way, it was the lack of regulation that led to the disaster. I'm not sure I want government totally out of the way. The last 2 years have shown us what lack of regulation and oversight does.
Jun 9, 2010 10:25am
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Jun 9, 2010 11:10 AM
I have a question that I haven't seen addressed....is this rig in International Waters? If so, what laws can the US enforce?
Jun 9, 2010 11:10am
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Jun 9, 2010 11:28 AM
Going by the Law of the Sea definition of territorial waters, even the though the U.S. is not a party, the territorial waters are up to 13 miles, then the U.S. has about a 200 miles EEZ or Exclusive Economic Zone, which the US. has special rights over the exploration and use of marine resources.

The Deepwater Horizon was 41 miles off the coast, so within the EEZ. So, inside U.S. waters, going by the LOS.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepwater_Horizon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exclusive_economic_zone
Jun 9, 2010 11:28am
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Jun 9, 2010 11:40 AM
ptown_trojans_1;384103 wrote:We already drill in shallow water. As for land, I'll leave that to the locals and states.
As to government in the way, it was the lack of regulation that led to the disaster. I'm not sure I want government totally out of the way. The last 2 years have shown us what lack of regulation and oversight does.
Was not the lack of regulation but the lack of goverment regulator doing the job and taking pay-offs
Jun 9, 2010 11:40am
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Jun 9, 2010 11:49 AM
Belly35;384180 wrote:Was not the lack of regulation but the lack of goverment regulator doing the job and taking pay-offs

Which is another way to say lack of regulation. Lack of regulation can be on both sides of the coin-the private sector is not living up to their end of regulations (which BP was not) and the public sector was not verifying or doing the correct job in regulating (which MMS was not).
Fails all around.
Jun 9, 2010 11:49am
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Jun 9, 2010 12:23 PM
ptown_trojans_1;384024 wrote:100% agreed. It is extremely annoying by both sides how much politics has taken over this issue.

I'm with you ptown- it's way too easy politically to look at a disaster and use it to point fingers at the party-in-chief and play the blame game (i.e. Bush & Katrina).

However, what is equally annoying is those who would use the disaster (or any crisis that can't "go to waste" to quote Rahm) to advance a controversial political agenda:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37470151/ns/politics-white_house
Obama said the country's continuing dependence on fossil fuels "will jeopardize our national security
No it won't- not if we take advantage of energy more at home.
it will smother our planet
With what- plant food?
and will continue to put our economy and our environment at risk."
Not as much as you're putting our economy at risk everyday.
Jun 9, 2010 12:23pm
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Jun 9, 2010 6:08 PM
KnightRyder;383495 wrote:if heads didnt roll in the past administration , they arent ever gonna roll

It only took 2 posts beyond the original before we get someone whining about Bush.

Pathetic.
Jun 9, 2010 6:08pm
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Jun 10, 2010 11:19 AM
whats pathetic is 80 percent of the threads are conservatives whining about obama. you know what the rights ideas and concepts dont work. bush is proof of that.
Jun 10, 2010 11:19am
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Jun 10, 2010 4:19 PM
KnightRyder;385449 wrote:whats pathetic is 80 percent of the threads are conservatives whining about obama. you know what the rights ideas and concepts dont work. bush is proof of that.
And the Anointed One is proving that it can be exponentially worse.
Jun 10, 2010 4:19pm
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Jun 10, 2010 4:41 PM
believer;385879 wrote:And the Anointed One is proving that it can be exponentially worse.

in our mind , yea
Jun 10, 2010 4:41pm
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Jun 10, 2010 11:15 PM
KnightRyder;385449 wrote:whats pathetic is 80 percent of the threads are conservatives whining about obama. you know what the rights ideas and concepts dont work. bush is proof of that.

1. Because you would have to be a complete dunderhead to not be bitching about, at least, some of the things that Obama has/has not done.
2. You would have to be a drooling zuchinni not to bitch about some of his administrations deeds/misdeeds.
3. Just wait awhile. You'll get your turn at bitching about the next incumbent :)
Jun 10, 2010 11:15pm