derek bomar
Posts: 3,722
May 24, 2010 11:49am
zwick if you can tell me how having less crime than cleveland or cincy based on fbi data is a bad thing, id be glad to hear it
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
May 24, 2010 11:56am
If you're worried about crime then don't live in a big city period.. Columbus included. Go find a small farm town.
Krazie- Did you want me to address the Columbus Crew and Blue Jackets? What exactly do you want me to say about them? I'm sure it's great time if you're into soccer and hockey.
Krazie- Did you want me to address the Columbus Crew and Blue Jackets? What exactly do you want me to say about them? I'm sure it's great time if you're into soccer and hockey.
derek bomar
Posts: 3,722
May 24, 2010 11:59am
its all relative dude...having less crime than Cincy or Cleveland is a positive for Cbus...you can't just ignore it, it is what it isZWICK 4 PREZ wrote: If you're worried about crime then don't live in a big city period.. Columbus included. Go find a small farm town.
Krazie- Did you want me to address the Columbus Crew and Blue Jackets? What exactly do you want me to say about them? I'm sure it's great time if you're into soccer and hockey.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
May 24, 2010 12:06pm
It's not all relative b/c you don't have near the crime downtown where you are actually at. No one goes to East Cleveland for anything. That's where the crime is. I've spent countless nights in the warehouse district and have never felt unsafe. Cleveland is very unsafe.. if your walking down St. Clair and East 93rd... not if you're on West 4th and St. Clair.derek bomar wrote:its all relative dude...having less crime than Cincy or Cleveland is a positive for Cbus...you can't just ignore it, it is what it isZWICK 4 PREZ wrote: If you're worried about crime then don't live in a big city period.. Columbus included. Go find a small farm town.
Krazie- Did you want me to address the Columbus Crew and Blue Jackets? What exactly do you want me to say about them? I'm sure it's great time if you're into soccer and hockey.
derek bomar
Posts: 3,722
May 24, 2010 12:08pm
how can you say its not all relative, and then give me a relative example of crime in different parts of Cleveland?ZWICK 4 PREZ wrote:It's not all relative b/c you don't have near the crime downtown where you are actually at. No one goes to East Cleveland for anything. That's where the crime is. I've spent countless nights in the warehouse district and have never felt unsafe. Cleveland is very unsafe.. if your walking down St. Clair and East 93rd... not if you're on West 4th and St. Clair.derek bomar wrote:its all relative dude...having less crime than Cincy or Cleveland is a positive for Cbus...you can't just ignore it, it is what it isZWICK 4 PREZ wrote: If you're worried about crime then don't live in a big city period.. Columbus included. Go find a small farm town.
Krazie- Did you want me to address the Columbus Crew and Blue Jackets? What exactly do you want me to say about them? I'm sure it's great time if you're into soccer and hockey.
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Steel Valley Football
Posts: 4,548
May 24, 2010 12:14pm
I think you guys are missing the fact that Cleveland might be a great place to live for someone with ZWP's lifestyle and interests, but not for me and some others here. To put it bluntly, Columbus is a white-bread yuppie town while Cleveland is more for the hip-hoppers and the gangstas.
ICEMAN59
Posts: 160
May 24, 2010 12:22pm
My wife and I are from Northeast Ohio. We lived in Columbus for ten years and moved up to Cleveland at the end of last year . . . we are moving back to Columbus in a few weeks and literally cant't wait to get out of Cleveland. I'm a Cleveland sports fan, am from that area, etc . . . . but Columbus is worlds better than Cleveland. Cleveland people seem far more miserable, less educated and more socially awkward than the Columbus folks. I hate to admit that, but I can.
Cbus is by far the best city in the state.
Cbus is by far the best city in the state.
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mtrulz
Posts: 2,905
May 24, 2010 12:25pm
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hrspeedmerchant
Posts: 165
May 24, 2010 12:30pm
You've been away from Northeast Ohio too long, SVF. My wife and I had dinner in Cleveland's Little Italy just two weeks ago and there wasn't a hip-hopper to be found....LOLSteel Valley Football wrote: I think you guys are missing the fact that Cleveland might be a great place to live for someone with ZWP's lifestyle and interests, but not for me and some others here. To put it bluntly, Columbus is a white-bread yuppie town while Cleveland is more for the hip-hoppers and the gangstas.
BCBulldog
Posts: 824
May 24, 2010 12:39pm
Being from the central Ohio area, I am admittedly biased, but I have to say that Columbus is definitely better than Cleveland and Cincinnati. Obviously, the pro sports are inferior, but just about everything else is superior. Business, crime, housing, education, shopping, diversity...all seem to be better than in Cincinnati and Cleveland. The only thing that I despise about Columbus is the local government, but it may be better than Cincy or Cleveland, too. I'm not too familiar with Cleveland and Cincy's politics.
krazie45
Posts: 1,055
May 24, 2010 12:40pm
I'm saying they're a great time no matter what you're a fan of. The point is that Columbus HAS quality pro sports. They are never going to get an NFL or NBA team because of Ohio State, and they have a AAA team that's probably better than their big league club. Look, I love Cleveland sports as much as the next guy but I also enjoy other things to do and the 2 hour drive isn't as much of a downer as giving up living in Columbus.ZWICK 4 PREZ wrote: If you're worried about crime then don't live in a big city period.. Columbus included. Go find a small farm town.
Krazie- Did you want me to address the Columbus Crew and Blue Jackets? What exactly do you want me to say about them? I'm sure it's great time if you're into soccer and hockey.
hr, where did you eat at in little italy? Haven't been up there in a few years but I always loved going to Mama Santa's for some great food....also please tell the wife I said hello
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Steel Valley Football
Posts: 4,548
May 24, 2010 12:40pm
hrspeedmerchant wrote:You've been away from Northeast Ohio too long, SVF. My wife and I had dinner in Cleveland's Little Italy just two weeks ago and there wasn't a hip-hopper to be found....LOLSteel Valley Football wrote: I think you guys are missing the fact that Cleveland might be a great place to live for someone with ZWP's lifestyle and interests, but not for me and some others here. To put it bluntly, Columbus is a white-bread yuppie town while Cleveland is more for the hip-hoppers and the gangstas.
Little Italy? I'll bet you didn't check the dumpster.
derek bomar
Posts: 3,722
May 24, 2010 12:43pm
I can say without a doubt it's better than in Cuyahoga CountyBCBulldog wrote: Being from the central Ohio area, I am admittedly biased, but I have to say that Columbus is definitely better than Cleveland and Cincinnati. Obviously, the pro sports are inferior, but just about everything else is superior. Business, crime, housing, education, shopping, diversity...all seem to be better than in Cincinnati and Cleveland. The only thing that I despise about Columbus is the local government, but it may be better than Cincy or Cleveland, too. I'm not too familiar with Cleveland and Cincy's politics.
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teh awsum juan
Posts: 84
May 24, 2010 12:46pm
hahahahaha. cuyahoga county's government is a gigantic cluster fuck. so much so that the residents of the county voted this past november to throw out their current form of government including all elected officials for a new form... also, it is widely speculated that one of their county comissioners and their county auditor are being investigated by the fbi for all sorts of fun corruption charges.derek bomar wrote:I can say without a doubt it's better than in Cuyahoga CountyBCBulldog wrote: Being from the central Ohio area, I am admittedly biased, but I have to say that Columbus is definitely better than Cleveland and Cincinnati. Obviously, the pro sports are inferior, but just about everything else is superior. Business, crime, housing, education, shopping, diversity...all seem to be better than in Cincinnati and Cleveland. The only thing that I despise about Columbus is the local government, but it may be better than Cincy or Cleveland, too. I'm not too familiar with Cleveland and Cincy's politics.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
May 24, 2010 1:15pm
It's the thuggish ruggish zwick.Steel Valley Football wrote: I think you guys are missing the fact that Cleveland might be a great place to live for someone with ZWP's lifestyle and interests, but not for me and some others here. To put it bluntly, Columbus is a white-bread yuppie town while Cleveland is more for the hip-hoppers and the gangstas.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
May 24, 2010 1:16pm
derek bomar wrote:how can you say its not all relative, and then give me a relative example of crime in different parts of Cleveland?ZWICK 4 PREZ wrote:It's not all relative b/c you don't have near the crime downtown where you are actually at. No one goes to East Cleveland for anything. That's where the crime is. I've spent countless nights in the warehouse district and have never felt unsafe. Cleveland is very unsafe.. if your walking down St. Clair and East 93rd... not if you're on West 4th and St. Clair.derek bomar wrote:its all relative dude...having less crime than Cincy or Cleveland is a positive for Cbus...you can't just ignore it, it is what it isZWICK 4 PREZ wrote: If you're worried about crime then don't live in a big city period.. Columbus included. Go find a small farm town.
Krazie- Did you want me to address the Columbus Crew and Blue Jackets? What exactly do you want me to say about them? I'm sure it's great time if you're into soccer and hockey.
B/c ur not going to find trouble in Cleveland unless you go looking for it... Same way with Columbus and Cincy.
derek bomar
Posts: 3,722
May 24, 2010 1:17pm
apples to apples, you will find less in Cbus than Cincy or CleveZWICK 4 PREZ wrote:derek bomar wrote:how can you say its not all relative, and then give me a relative example of crime in different parts of Cleveland?ZWICK 4 PREZ wrote:It's not all relative b/c you don't have near the crime downtown where you are actually at. No one goes to East Cleveland for anything. That's where the crime is. I've spent countless nights in the warehouse district and have never felt unsafe. Cleveland is very unsafe.. if your walking down St. Clair and East 93rd... not if you're on West 4th and St. Clair.derek bomar wrote:its all relative dude...having less crime than Cincy or Cleveland is a positive for Cbus...you can't just ignore it, it is what it isZWICK 4 PREZ wrote: If you're worried about crime then don't live in a big city period.. Columbus included. Go find a small farm town.
Krazie- Did you want me to address the Columbus Crew and Blue Jackets? What exactly do you want me to say about them? I'm sure it's great time if you're into soccer and hockey.
B/c ur not going to find trouble in Cleveland unless you go looking for it... Same way with Columbus and Cincy.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
May 24, 2010 1:20pm
I like where I live, and I don't really care where others think is the best. My problem is when someone talks shit about how horrible the area they live in is, yet they don't have enough balls to up and move to make their life better in their eyes.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
May 24, 2010 1:20pm
derek bomar wrote:apples to apples, you will find less in Cbus than Cincy or CleveZWICK 4 PREZ wrote:derek bomar wrote:how can you say its not all relative, and then give me a relative example of crime in different parts of Cleveland?ZWICK 4 PREZ wrote:It's not all relative b/c you don't have near the crime downtown where you are actually at. No one goes to East Cleveland for anything. That's where the crime is. I've spent countless nights in the warehouse district and have never felt unsafe. Cleveland is very unsafe.. if your walking down St. Clair and East 93rd... not if you're on West 4th and St. Clair.derek bomar wrote:its all relative dude...having less crime than Cincy or Cleveland is a positive for Cbus...you can't just ignore it, it is what it isZWICK 4 PREZ wrote: If you're worried about crime then don't live in a big city period.. Columbus included. Go find a small farm town.
Krazie- Did you want me to address the Columbus Crew and Blue Jackets? What exactly do you want me to say about them? I'm sure it's great time if you're into soccer and hockey.
B/c ur not going to find trouble in Cleveland unless you go looking for it... Same way with Columbus and Cincy.
Theres still trouble.. there's still bad places. That's like saying "I only have herpes and not herpes and the clap like you!"
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teh awsum juan
Posts: 84
May 24, 2010 1:25pm
i understand bomar's argument, columbus is the best city in ohio.
but zwick, wtf are you arguing? instead of saying why columbus isn't the best, can you give some reasoning as to why another city is better?
but zwick, wtf are you arguing? instead of saying why columbus isn't the best, can you give some reasoning as to why another city is better?
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
May 24, 2010 1:27pm
It's all personal opinion. I like NEO. I hate SWO. I lived briefly in Sunbury and Central Ohio isn't my thing either.
derek bomar
Posts: 3,722
May 24, 2010 1:27pm
dude...you can't shine shit. Quit trying. Columbus has less crime than Cincinnati and Cleveland. You can't bs your way around it.ZWICK 4 PREZ wrote:derek bomar wrote:apples to apples, you will find less in Cbus than Cincy or CleveZWICK 4 PREZ wrote:derek bomar wrote:how can you say its not all relative, and then give me a relative example of crime in different parts of Cleveland?ZWICK 4 PREZ wrote:It's not all relative b/c you don't have near the crime downtown where you are actually at. No one goes to East Cleveland for anything. That's where the crime is. I've spent countless nights in the warehouse district and have never felt unsafe. Cleveland is very unsafe.. if your walking down St. Clair and East 93rd... not if you're on West 4th and St. Clair.derek bomar wrote:its all relative dude...having less crime than Cincy or Cleveland is a positive for Cbus...you can't just ignore it, it is what it isZWICK 4 PREZ wrote: If you're worried about crime then don't live in a big city period.. Columbus included. Go find a small farm town.
Krazie- Did you want me to address the Columbus Crew and Blue Jackets? What exactly do you want me to say about them? I'm sure it's great time if you're into soccer and hockey.
B/c ur not going to find trouble in Cleveland unless you go looking for it... Same way with Columbus and Cincy.
Theres still trouble.. there's still bad places. That's like saying "I only have herpes and not herpes and the clap like you!"
LJ
Posts: 16,351
May 24, 2010 1:30pm
Sunbury isn't a good example of central ohio. That town, excuse me, village, is so fucking cut off from the rest of central ohio up until recently it's embarrassing.ZWICK 4 PREZ wrote: It's all personal opinion. I like NEO. I hate SWO. I lived briefly in Sunbury and Central Ohio isn't my thing either.
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teh awsum juan
Posts: 84
May 24, 2010 1:30pm
it is all personal opinion, but bomar is giving reasons behind his opinion... growing population, several company headquarters, lower crime rates, rivers that don't get set on fire, lack of a rust belt (NEO would include youngstown..)ZWICK 4 PREZ wrote: It's all personal opinion. I like NEO. I hate SWO. I lived briefly in Sunbury and Central Ohio isn't my thing either.
what is your reason?
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
May 24, 2010 1:32pm
Which is exactly what you're doing. Columbus has a lot of shitty areas. Cleveland has a lot of shitty areas. Cincy has a lot of shitty areas.. you're trying to make Columbus out to be this amazing place that is so safe and clean. It isn't. You can throw a rock from campus and end up in shitty areas.. you refuse to acknowledge it though.derek bomar wrote:
dude...you can't shine shit. Quit trying. Columbus has less crime than Cincinnati and Cleveland. You can't bs your way around it.