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May 22, 2010 11:07 PM
1. VanGundy

2. Dwight Howard

3. Vince Carter
May 22, 2010 11:07pm
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May 22, 2010 11:19 PM
Jameer is the worst of them all. Hes an undersized 2 guard who cant run point and turns the ball over like its his job. All while playing little to no D and taking bad shots
May 22, 2010 11:19pm
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May 22, 2010 11:34 PM
1. Playing a superior team in all aspects of the game

2. VanGundy

3. Dwight Howard

4. Vince Carter

there I fixed it for you
May 22, 2010 11:34pm
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May 22, 2010 11:51 PM
I agree with george.The Celtics are just better..
May 22, 2010 11:51pm
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May 23, 2010 12:12 AM
1. The Celtic already had their collapse against the Cavs.
May 23, 2010 12:12am
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May 23, 2010 12:41 AM
Everyone can bring their hate against Cleveland and blah blah. Its easy to see...Beantown is just ballin' right now....end of story.
May 23, 2010 12:41am
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May 23, 2010 12:57 AM
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Pretty much. For all the talk about how Cleveland had no heart against the Celtics (and how true that was), compared to Orlando, the Cavs look like Conan, Beastmaster and a few other barbarian heroes rolled into one package. Way Boston is playing now, everyone in the East looks like their bitches.

One thing I noticed tonight considering how people have mentioned that Cleveland and Orlando both were having fun and being loose during the regular season, but then have been crapping down their legs against the Celtics...Boston doesn't do that. Late in the game while the starters were on the bench, the cameras spent a lot of time on them. I saw Pierce and Allen joking in one shot, but that was the extent of them "celebrating" a victory before the final buzzer. For the most part, they just looked like they wanted the game to end, so they could leave. The body language and facial expressions seemed to say, "We're up 3-0...who cares...need to win five more games before we've done anything..."

I'm pretty much convinced that they went out hardcore at the beginning of the season because they knew if they kicked ass for the first 30ish games, they could coast into the playoffs. So they coasted and both kept their old guys fresh AND caused people to fall asleep on them. And now that it's the postseason, they're fresh, healthy and making teams look pathetic. It's like Rip Van Winkle fell asleep for 20 years, woke up and then transformed in Mecha-Godzilla and wiped out Pilgrim settlements one by one.
May 23, 2010 12:57am
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May 23, 2010 1:13 AM
Boston is going to be the first team to tank a season and win the championship. They fooled the shit out of me.

With that said, Dwight Howard is the most overrated player in the NBA and Vince Carter may be the most overrated EVER (and that hurts me as a Heels fan)

However, Dwight has NO offensive skill set, he's only good offensively when he's able to dunk the ball. He's a bad man-to-man defender, but a great weak side defender and a very good rebounder/shot blocker.

IMO, He's a glorified Dikembe Mutombo.

FAR from the "superman" title he stole from Shaq. D12 will NEVER be as good/dominate as Shaq was... Never.
May 23, 2010 1:13am
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May 23, 2010 2:04 AM
Boston also had guys hurt throughout the regular season so I would hardly say they tanked the regular season. They got healthy at the right time and their key guys are playing extremely well right now. Orlando is very one dimensional and Boston is exposing Dwight Howard has a poor post player because they have size and length to guard him. Unlike the 2 cupcakes the Magic played in the first 2 rounds, Boston has guys who can guard Howard and take away everything they do offensively. It's not a big shock whatsoever they are up 3-0.
May 23, 2010 2:04am
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May 23, 2010 2:34 AM
hoops23 wrote: Boston is going to be the first team to tank a season and win the championship. They fooled the shit out of me.

With that said, Dwight Howard is the most overrated player in the NBA and Vince Carter may be the most overrated EVER (and that hurts me as a Heels fan)

However, Dwight has NO offensive skill set, he's only good offensively when he's able to dunk the ball. He's a bad man-to-man defender, but a great weak side defender and a very good rebounder/shot blocker.

IMO, He's a glorified Dikembe Mutombo.

FAR from the "superman" title he stole from Shaq. D12 will NEVER be as good/dominate as Shaq was... Never.
That award is already Allen Iverson and its not even close.
May 23, 2010 2:34am
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May 23, 2010 5:37 AM
sleeper wrote:
hoops23 wrote: Boston is going to be the first team to tank a season and win the championship. They fooled the shit out of me.

With that said, Dwight Howard is the most overrated player in the NBA and Vince Carter may be the most overrated EVER (and that hurts me as a Heels fan)

However, Dwight has NO offensive skill set, he's only good offensively when he's able to dunk the ball. He's a bad man-to-man defender, but a great weak side defender and a very good rebounder/shot blocker.

IMO, He's a glorified Dikembe Mutombo.

FAR from the "superman" title he stole from Shaq. D12 will NEVER be as good/dominate as Shaq was... Never.
That award is already Allen Iverson and its not even close.
What exactly about Allen Iverson is over rated? He has been well defined as a player and as a person for well over a decade. To be over rated you have to get something less than what is expected. His has given more or less what has been expected of him for at least 11 of 13 years, though an argument can be made for a 12th year. You not liking Iverson is not remotely the same thing as Iverson not living up to his reputation
May 23, 2010 5:37am
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May 23, 2010 8:48 AM
Iverson is probably the best small player ever in the NBA and made it to the Finals one year when Philly never had a really good team while he was there. Go find Larry Hughes and Ill show you overrated, the guy made a ton of money for doing nothing.
May 23, 2010 8:48am
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May 23, 2010 9:04 AM
Tigerfan00 wrote: Iverson is probably the best small player ever in the NBA and made it to the Finals one year when Philly never had a really good team while he was there. Go find Larry Hughes and Ill show you overrated, the guy made a ton of money for doing nothing.
Iverson has had a great career, but I would say Isiah Thomas and John Stockton were better small players in the last 25 years.
May 23, 2010 9:04am
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May 23, 2010 9:11 AM
Boston is just showing the young punks how championships are won.

The finals is gonna be a good one.
May 23, 2010 9:11am
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May 23, 2010 10:44 AM
I'm not positive the Celtics have that much better players than the other teams, but I do know that the Celtics play the game better than any of the other teams.
May 23, 2010 10:44am
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May 23, 2010 11:33 AM
3reppom wrote:
sleeper wrote:
hoops23 wrote: Boston is going to be the first team to tank a season and win the championship. They fooled the shit out of me.

With that said, Dwight Howard is the most overrated player in the NBA and Vince Carter may be the most overrated EVER (and that hurts me as a Heels fan)

However, Dwight has NO offensive skill set, he's only good offensively when he's able to dunk the ball. He's a bad man-to-man defender, but a great weak side defender and a very good rebounder/shot blocker.

IMO, He's a glorified Dikembe Mutombo.

FAR from the "superman" title he stole from Shaq. D12 will NEVER be as good/dominate as Shaq was... Never.
That award is already Allen Iverson and its not even close.
What exactly about Allen Iverson is over rated? He has been well defined as a player and as a person for well over a decade. To be over rated you have to get something less than what is expected. His has given more or less what has been expected of him for at least 11 of 13 years, though an argument can be made for a 12th year. You not liking Iverson is not remotely the same thing as Iverson not living up to his reputation
He has a 42.5% FG average over his career. That is horrible.
May 23, 2010 11:33am
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May 23, 2010 11:53 AM
He has a 42.5% FG average over his career. That is horrible.
This stat alone does not make Iverson overrated. John Havlicek has a career FG shooting % of .439.
May 23, 2010 11:53am
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May 23, 2010 12:04 PM
Prescott wrote:
He has a 42.5% FG average over his career. That is horrible.
This stat alone does not make Iverson overrated. John Havlicek has a career FG shooting % of .439.
You might as well be talking to a doorknob when talking about the NBA with sleeper. Remember, sleeper is the one who doesn't think Bill Russell or Magic Johnson can be considered All time NBA Greats because they didn't win Rookie of the Year honors.
May 23, 2010 12:04pm
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May 23, 2010 12:16 PM
LOL @ AI is overrated bc of Fg%
May 23, 2010 12:16pm
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May 23, 2010 12:41 PM
sleeper wrote:

He has a 42.5% FG average over his career. That is horrible.
Yes it is horrible. But he also was known as a player who would shot a thousand shots and make a few of them. Not overrated.
May 23, 2010 12:41pm
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May 23, 2010 2:36 PM
If you are going to order the NBA world based on field goal percentage you will see some pretty shitty people in the Hall of Fame
May 23, 2010 2:36pm
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May 23, 2010 2:38 PM
Dwight Howard is obviously tanking the series and Marcin Gortat slept with his mom.
May 23, 2010 2:38pm
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May 23, 2010 3:21 PM
AI is properly rated.
May 23, 2010 3:21pm
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May 23, 2010 3:43 PM
Sage wrote: AI is properly rated.
But he wore a headband so doesn't that make him overrated in your eyes?
May 23, 2010 3:43pm
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May 23, 2010 4:05 PM
Haha, Dwight Howard ought to come out publicly and return the "Superman" title to Shaq. He should be embarrassed to ever have claimed to be anywhere near the player Shaq was in his prime. I was interested to see Shaq battle Howard over the 7. But no way could Howard have held Shaq's jock back in the day.
May 23, 2010 4:05pm