#1 Mark Ingram - Alabama
#2 Toby Gerhart - Stanford
#3 CJ Spiller - Clemson

That is the first I have heard of anyone putting Gerhart anywhere near the top in this.

If Gerhart and Spiller are going to be up there then one would have to include Golden Tate!

Just as long as Tebow is not there i am fine with it . lol

There is some talk that Tebow AND McCoy may not get invited. ESPN kind of hinted at that tonight before they brought this list up.

I could see McCoy being invited with the games he's been having lately but Tebow has showed me nothing this year that would have me vote for him.

I honestly dont see why Spiller is as much in this discussion as he is.

Gerhart should be the leader right now.

Golden Tate has played out of his mind this year. . . he should have the Biletnikoff in the bag easy.

George Costanza wrote: I honestly dont see why Spiller is as much in this discussion as he is.

Gerhart should be the leader right now.

CJ Spiller has TD's of 58 yards or longer in 8 of 10 games this season. He had 3 snaps in our game against FCS Coastal Carolina. He is one of two players to score a TD in every game this season. He has a TD in 5 different ways: rushing, receiving, punt return, kick return, and passing.

He joins Reggie Bush as only players in college football history with 3000 yards rushing, 1500 yards in kickoff returns, 1000 in receiving and 500 in punt returns.

He ranks 7th in the history of all-purpose yards stats.

He holds the NCAA record for most TD plays of over 50 yards with 20 (8 coming this season). He holds 26 Clemson records. He has had 10 TD plays of over 80 yards in his career.

He has amassed these stats as a #2 back before this season.

Spiller has been kicked off to only 16 times this season, with 3 coming back for TDs, and he has one punt return this season (he is tied for the career lead in kick returns for TD at six, and adds 2 punt returns). Teams have stopped kicking to spiller since the Miami game. In fact, NC state attempted an onside kick on every kickoff last week in an attempt to neutralize his return game.

All of these stats have been recorded this season by a hurt Spiller. He sustained serious turf toe in the first game, and has been limping all season. He walks around campus in a boot all week, every week, and only takes it off to practice and play.

The Heisman is supposed to go to the player most valuable to his team. CJ Spiller is the Clemson offense, and the team has a chance to play for its first ACC title in 19 years. He is also an academic all-american and one of the leading charity workers on the team.

Say what you will, but if you don't think Spiller's stats warrant a heisman, than you also subscribe to Reggie Bush not being in the discussion when he won. Spiller is putting up similar numbers to him, and is just as versatile as a player.

I don't expect him to win it, because it will go to an ESecPN player. But I think a trip to New York is deserved for the unbelievable season he has had this year.

rock_knutne wrote: If Gerhart and Spiller are going to be up there then one would have to include Golden Tate!

When Golden Tate can beat a team ranked somewhere in the top 25, then we can talk about Heismans.

Gerhart has already beat USC and Oregon and is far superior than anything ND has to offer. In fact, when is the last time ND has beat any ranked team? Last time I checked, they get BLOWN out whenever they play someone not named Syracuse or North Dakota State, and even then they still lose.

ohiotiger33 wrote:

George Costanza wrote: I honestly dont see why Spiller is as much in this discussion as he is.

Gerhart should be the leader right now.

CJ Spiller has TD's of 58 yards or longer in 8 of 10 games this season. He had 3 snaps in our game against FCS Coastal Carolina. He is one of two players to score a TD in every game this season. He has a TD in 5 different ways: rushing, receiving, punt return, kick return, and passing.

He joins Reggie Bush as only players in college football history with 3000 yards rushing, 1500 yards in kickoff returns, 1000 in receiving and 500 in punt returns.

He ranks 7th in the history of all-purpose yards stats.

He holds the NCAA record for most TD plays of over 50 yards with 20 (8 coming this season). He holds 26 Clemson records. He has had 10 TD plays of over 80 yards in his career.

He has amassed these stats as a #2 back before this season.

Spiller has been kicked off to only 16 times this season, with 3 coming back for TDs, and he has one punt return this season (he is tied for the career lead in kick returns for TD at six, and adds 2 punt returns). Teams have stopped kicking to spiller since the Miami game. In fact, NC state attempted an onside kick on every kickoff last week in an attempt to neutralize his return game.

All of these stats have been recorded this season by a hurt Spiller. He sustained serious turf toe in the first game, and has been limping all season. He walks around campus in a boot all week, every week, and only takes it off to practice and play.

The Heisman is supposed to go to the player most valuable to his team. CJ Spiller is the Clemson offense, and the team has a chance to play for its first ACC title in 19 years. He is also an academic all-american and one of the leading charity workers on the team.

Say what you will, but if you don't think Spiller's stats warrant a heisman, than you also subscribe to Reggie Bush not being in the discussion when he won. Spiller is putting up similar numbers to him, and is just as versatile as a player.

I don't expect him to win it, because it will go to an ESecPN player. But I think a trip to New York is deserved for the unbelievable season he has had this year.

Has CJ Spiller hired you as his Heisman PR guy? lol, good stuff.

captvern wrote: Just as long as Tebow is not there i am fine with it . lol

this

When looking for heisman contenders, why do you look at team success. I think this should be in individual award. Not just a good player on the best team. I think that it used to be this way. Then talk about how your only great if you have ever won a championship talk started(which is not true) and it changed.

Haha, LTrain. He has not hired me, but it is funny that you say that as I will be going to grad school for PR.

Most of those stats are from his heisman candidacy page if you go to clemsontigers.com

ESPN doesn't really like to give TV time to conferences that arent the SEC anymore, so we are all trying our best to get his name out there. What he has done is incredible.

ESPN will be unbearable once the SEC contract actually kicks in.

I like Ingram.

Quint wrote: ESPN will be unbearable once the SEC contract actually kicks in.

The rumor I keep hearing down here is that Fox is looking into covering cfb again. They would sign a contract with the ACC, Big 12, and Pac 10 to cover many of their games. The big bargaining chip for the ACC is ACC basketball obviously, and Fox wants in from what I have heard (The ACC usually makes a network take football as well as bball). It would be nice to get some competition.

Because you are right, it will be awful.

Fox's coverage is absolutely garbage. Their BCS coverage is garbage, they have hack announcers doing every game. I wish they'd just go back to ABC.

See I don't think that at all. I tend to believe ABC has some of the worst announcing and coverage of all time. Fox does a much better job of showing the atmospheres of the games they cover. Some of the announcing is bad, but I believe if they committed to the regular season, they would get established announcers and it would improve.

When you have Thom Brenneman and Charles White calling a BCS game, there's a problem

I am not saying the announcing teams they have had were good. I am saying I like their overall packaging and presentation. I believe they would go after good announcing teams if they were to pick up cfb full time. The sport needs competition.

The Scripps Heisman polls has been one of the MOST accurate Heisman polls around for years. They poll a number of former winners weekly. Currently they have Ingram in a comfortable lead for the Heisman.
http://www.gainesville.com/article/20091118/articles/911189885?tc=autorefresh

If Tebow's being considered, I guess "lifetime achievement" is part of the Heisman criteria. Nothing against him, but but he shouldn't be in the top 5, I don't care what team he plays on.

^^^

Just like when Archie won his 2nd too

I will be interested to see where Stiff Arm Trophy has this when it's first polls are released.

Scripps has it about right.

I have said all along that whoever wins the SEC Championship Game will determine who wins the Heisman.

Elliot Stabler wrote: ^^^

Just like when Archie won his 2nd too

I guess this site needs trolls too...do you have stats supporting Archie not deserving this award,or are you just blowing hot air--again :@