Hb31187 wrote: Maybe I dont watch the Cavs games close enough...But it seems to me LBJ usually doesnt guard the other teams best player? (Melo and Pierce would be the exception ive seen). I understand he has all the tools to be a lockdown defender and hes great off ball at getting blocks and steals. But KD is right with him in blocks and steals and averages more defensive rebounds and hes called a terrible defender. So is LBJ kinda just getting the accolade of 1st team all defense because hes LBJ and hes the best player in basketball...or because hes actually one of the best 5 defenders in the NBA?

2quik4u wrote: Lebron isnt the greatest on ball defender he is a great help defender

Glory Days wrote: Does Durant play like a PG like Lebron does sometimes? if not, you cant really compare assists into the equation i think.

2quik4u wrote:

wes_mantooth wrote: Durant doesn't play a lick of defense, but I agree that he can average more rebounds and points that Lebron. He is not well rounded at all though.

Lebron wasnt that good of a defender his first 3 years in the league

Footwedge wrote: Durant does not get nearly the touches LeBron does either. That's one of the reasons his assists are so low. When he gets it...he shoots it.

elbuckeye28 wrote:

Footwedge wrote: Durant does not get nearly the touches LeBron does either. That's one of the reasons his assists are so low. When he gets it...he shoots it.

I don't think anybody expects him to average as many assists as Lebron, but you would think the "soon to be" best player in the league could at least average one assist per quarter.

mallymal614 wrote: I'm about to end this debate. Evan Turner will be better than both in 3 years

sleeper wrote: He's already surpassed Kobe as the second best player in the game, but its going to be a lot harder to top the King as the best in basketball.

Also, Lebron isn't a "great" help side defender, he's the BEST help side defender in the league. His on the balls skills are above average due to his size and quickness, and he's one of the few, if not the only, player to be able to guard all 5 positions. That is why he's a top 5 defender and deserving of any defensive accolades he gets.

LTrain23 wrote: CWebb and Chuck both laughed at Kenny when he said this.. I did the same.

Durantula is a great player and will be the 2nd best for a while, but LeBron is the best until he falls off.

There is more to the game of basketball than just scoring, which KD isn't better than LeBron at either...

Hb31187 wrote:

sleeper wrote: He's already surpassed Kobe as the second best player in the game, but its going to be a lot harder to top the King as the best in basketball.

Also, Lebron isn't a "great" help side defender, he's the BEST help side defender in the league. His on the balls skills are above average due to his size and quickness, and he's one of the few, if not the only, player to be able to guard all 5 positions. That is why he's a top 5 defender and deserving of any defensive accolades he gets.

Best help side defender int he league is pure opinion. Theres no way to prove whos best among the top. Hes one of the best.

Hb31187 wrote:

LTrain23 wrote: CWebb and Chuck both laughed at Kenny when he said this.. I did the same.

Durantula is a great player and will be the 2nd best for a while, but LeBron is the best until he falls off.

There is more to the game of basketball than just scoring, which KD isn't better than LeBron at either...

lol he has the same amount of scoring titles as king james

Glory Days wrote:

Hb31187 wrote:

LTrain23 wrote: CWebb and Chuck both laughed at Kenny when he said this.. I did the same.

Durantula is a great player and will be the 2nd best for a while, but LeBron is the best until he falls off.

There is more to the game of basketball than just scoring, which KD isn't better than LeBron at either...

lol he has the same amount of scoring titles as king james

and he did it sooner and younger than Lebron did.

LTrain23 wrote: LOL.

When LeBron was 21, he averaged 31.4 PPG, to go a long with 7 rebounds and 6.6 assists. That was his 3rd year in the league.. 31.4 PPG...

A couple years later, LeBron averaged 30/8/7..

This year, LeBron averages 29.7/8.6/7.3.. His 8.6 APG were the MOST EVER by a forward.

LeBrons PER #'s are ALWAYS ridiculous.. Top in the league every season.

Seriously, LeBron could have had 3 scoring titles by now, but again, what do scoring titles get you? It means absolutely nothing in the big picture..

KD will never accomplish the things LeBron has. KD can score, no doubt, but his overall game isn't and never will be as polished as LeBrons.

And don't even get me started on the playoffs. KD has played well, but he has also struggled pretty badly at times during his first postseason..

LeBron fucked around and got a triple-double during his playoff debut and grabbed the 3rd highest scoring average in his playoff debut behind Wilt and Kareem..

Seriously, some people just don't realize how GREAT LeBron is. They try to make comments based on shock value.

Durant is a very good player, he's not on LeBron's level though.

However, the team around KD is VERY good and will be for sometime. Russell Westbrook, Ibaka, James Harden, and Jeff Green are all good players and in Westbrooks case, the argument could be made that he makes that team go.