Dr Winston O'Boogie

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On Dec 6, 2019:

  • Dr Winston O'Boogie replied to "Did Massillon hurt national championship run?" at 03:52 pm

  • National championship?  Did I travel through time to 1943 and just didn't realize it?  Massillon in a runner-up middle size school division in Ohio.  They are not known nor relevant on the national scene.  

On Dec 5, 2019:

  • Dr Winston O'Boogie replied to "Impressed by the Trump administration part II" at 03:13 pm

  • If you can't beat 'em, join 'em....

     

    The guy in front of me in line at the DMV this morning audibly farted, but it didn't stink.  Whatever Trump did to make that happen, I'm grateful.  

  • Dr Winston O'Boogie replied to "Impressed by the Trump administration part II" at 12:34 pm
  • posted by jmog

    From 2014 to 2016 the US production of steel dropped dramatically from 98 million metric tons down to 86 million metric tons per year.

    Since the election in 2016, the US production of steel has gone up to 91 million metric tons in 2017 and 95 million metric tons in 2018.

    I am not saying that the tarrifs are "working", but they are demonstrably no hurting the situation.

     

    I was pointing out a specific transaction to QO that seems to fly in the face of his dependable Trump flag waving.  The low price and poor performance of AK Steel - in spite of tariffs - allowed Cleveland-Cliffs to get a nice price for an acquisition.  As the Cliffs CEO said, "the tariffs have nothing to do with this".  I made the point to Quaker to just see if he might admit that the president - regardless of who he/she is - does not have quite the impact on day to day business dealings as Quaker espouses.  

     

    In the case of this particular deal, Cliffs' CEO Lourenco Goncalves (who has a personality very similar to Trump's) is making a move to secure the supply chain of iron ore and to also diversify his customer base.  If you don't follow him, he is a really interesting guy who knows the steel industry and is good for an awesome quote every now and then.

On Dec 4, 2019:

  • Dr Winston O'Boogie replied to "Impressed by the Trump administration part II" at 12:00 pm

  • Hey QO, Cleveland-Cliffs just bought AK Steel for half of what it was worth when Trump took office. So how do you reconcile that terrible performance with his tariffs and promised revival of the domestic steel industry?  Could it be that his actions have little effect on industry performance? 

On Dec 2, 2019:

  • Dr Winston O'Boogie replied to "Impressed by the Trump administration part II" at 04:27 pm
  • posted by QuakerOats

     

    US SOLIDIFIES ENERGY PRODUCER STATUS

    The U.S. solidified its status as an energy producer by posting the first full month as a net exporter of crude and petroleum products since government records began in 1949. http://media.bishopi.com/ec.aspx?l=25414350&e=216417

     

     

     

     

    Thanks barack

     

    You keep doing this to make a point that Obama is not the reason for whatever economic benefit your highlighting.  No one one here has ever suggested he was.  The point made to you is that much of the stuff you highlight had nothing to do with Trump.  Either because it was in the works long before he came along or because presidents possibly don't have as much effect on economic daily activities than you propose.  Instead of challenging these points, you just keep making this same "thanks barack" point sarcastically.  No one said anything about Obama being responsible for any of the stories you highlight.

     

     

On Nov 27, 2019:

  • Dr Winston O'Boogie replied to "Uranium One / Clinton Foundation / obama DoJ corruption" at 04:04 pm

  • And yet another investigation finds no evidence of the FBI/Obama putting agents or spies inside Trump's campaign. If Breitbart and friends are right and there really was spying and all of these investigations are cover-ups, we are now safely into the thousands as far as the number of people who are in on it and perpetuating it. We're starting to get nearer to moon landing faking territory. 

On Nov 26, 2019:

On Nov 25, 2019:

  • Dr Winston O'Boogie replied to "Impressed by the Trump administration part II" at 04:58 pm
  • posted by QuakerOats

     

    It wasn’t someone else and it wasn’t government that put in the place the infrastructure etc.; it was taxpayers!  I am a little sick of those in government who try to take credit for projects.  Government takes taxpayer money, spends it on a project (that has an inflated price tag because government involved itself), and then acts like “they built it”.  Government didn’t build anything, and neither did obama.

     

     

    I don't think his point was that "government" built the infrastructure you (as a business owner) utilize to succeed.  I think his point was that other people (your fellow citizens) helped make those things possible.  None of us gets to where we are all by ourselves.  We have help along the way.

     

  • Dr Winston O'Boogie replied to "Impressed by the Trump administration part II" at 11:38 am
  • posted by jmog

    Here is the whole paragraph where that came from in that speech...

    If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.

    Now, is the general gist of the speech about how the government built the infrastructure (roads, education, etc) that allowed someone to build a business? yes, absolutely.

     

    Did Obama terribly mash up that one sentence and actually say "If you have a business, you didn't build that." yes, absolutely.

     

    He also got the intent of the internet wrong. The internet, while yes originally invented by the government, it was for national defense in a time of nuclear war. If nuclear war broke off normal communications (phones back then) how would the government stay in contact? They invented the internet.

     

    It was invented to allow electronic communications for the government/department of defense in a time of nuclear war. It wasn't built so "all companies could make money off it" as Obama stated.

     

    So yeah, the quote is correct when used by the right as that is actually what Obama said, but also yes, in context to the rest of the paragraph Obama meant the infrastructure around businesses.

     

    I would also counter that roads existed before the federal government started building them. Schools existed before the federal government started regulating them. Utilities (water, electricity, etc) were run as private industries before the government took them over.

     

    So I also disagree with his whole sentiment as well, that you wouldn't have/couldn't have succeeded if the federal government hadn't built this stuff.

    I call malarky as they all (save the internet) existed before the federal government took them over. Also, the internet could have/would have been invented by private companies as well.

    Your point is what I was trying to say.  His context was not suggesting that someone else built your business, but that someone else put in place the infrastructure that allowed you to suceed.  And as I said, you can agree and disagree with that for sure.  I'm not saying he is correct in making that point, only that his quote is constantly taken out of context as though he was saying something completely different.  

     

     

On Nov 24, 2019:

  • Dr Winston O'Boogie replied to "What was the last movie you watched?" at 10:25 pm
  • posted by bigdaddy2003

    Cast Away is good of course, Road to Perdition was alright, Catch Me if you can is good, couldnt get into any of the Da Vinci Code movies, Captain Phillips was ok, Bridge of Spies was good, and Sully was ok. I just dont think his run has been filled with entertaining movies since Catch me if you can. Just my opinion. 

     

    Agree on da VInci.  Hanks is one of the best ever, but he was not the right guy for that part.  It never worked.  

On Nov 22, 2019:

  • Dr Winston O'Boogie replied to "What are you listening to? [general music thread]" at 12:31 pm

  • I heard Elton John's "Empty Garden (Hey, Hey Johnny)" today for the first time in maybe 20 years.  I'd forgotten what an amazing song it is.  It's a tribute to John Lennon and probably the most moving tribute song I've ever heard.  Amazing lyrics and music.  Give it a listen sometime. 

  • Dr Winston O'Boogie replied to "What are you listening to? [general music thread]" at 12:30 pm
  • posted by j_crazy

    ludovico einaudi.

    I'm a big fan of his.  Probably my favorite present day composer.  I've been enjoying the Seven Days Walking albums, but haven't listened to them all.  Divenire is my favorite of his releases.  

On Nov 21, 2019:

  • Dr Winston O'Boogie replied to "Impressed by the Trump administration part II" at 07:00 pm
  • posted by QuakerOats

     

     

     

    It can easily be verified.  Hell, just look at the unemployment numbers. Thousands of smaller businesses, who do not make the headlines, have given substantial raises and bonuses, and invested in new projects, knowing now that putting their capital back to use is not a risky proposition, as it was from ’08-’16. 

     

     

     

     

    “You didn’t build that”.     JFC  //  LOL

    I know you love the "you didn't build that" quote.  If you read the original speech, he was referring to the roads, bridges, infrastructure, educated workforce, etc that helped entreprenuers succeed.  He was saying those things served you well, that you didn't create them.  You can disagree with his opinion, but at least give it context.  He was not saying that you did not build your own business.

     

    I know no one will ever change your opinions of Trump's glorious presidency.  Whatever good's in the world now seems to come from him and whatever is bad lingers from Obama and others.  A very simplistic way of seeing life, but that's your perogative.  

  • Dr Winston O'Boogie replied to "Impressed by the Trump administration part II" at 03:00 pm
  • posted by QuakerOats

     

     

    Large multi-national companies were not nearly as affected by obama’s policies as were smaller, privately held businesses, because they can afford to absorb the substantial burdens imposed.  Hell, they may prefer it because the policies are often so damaging and costly to small business that it ultimately lessens competition for the large multi-nationals as the small firms go belly up.

     

    The economic rape committed upon the Midwest over the last 30 years was devastating.  The obama regime policies were then inflicting the final daggers upon the victims.  Then a near-miracle occurred.

    This is a generalization that can not be verified.  Besides, most of the Trump successes you cite are by large multi national corporations.  So what gives?

  • Dr Winston O'Boogie replied to "Impressed by the Trump administration part II" at 02:58 pm
  • posted by geeblock

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/no-mac-factory-texas-not-131158967.html

     

    I see where QO gets it from.  

    Here's an example.  This plant was built during Obama's "regime" - imagine.  Just like the DRI plant in Toledo Cleveland-Cliffs is building that QO linked as another Trump accomplishment.  Budgeting and beginning of the project started in 2014.  

     

    Trump and Obama have nothing to do with either of these two projects.  The economy ain't that simplistic.

  • Dr Winston O'Boogie replied to "Epstein "Suicide"" at 12:03 pm
  • posted by QuakerOats

     

    For the first time in many years I tuned into the MSM nightly news last night around 6:38 pm, just for kicks.  NBC was airing a piece on a black deputy in Florida who was too rough with a problem female under his watch, and then they went to a story on a black family at a Buffalo Wild Wings that said they were asked to move in the restaurant because a regular customer did not to sit near them.  I quickly switched over to CBS and they had the exact same stories airing, and then I flipped to ABC and it was the exact same thing – those same two stories.  It is literally bizarre that 3 different media outlets were simultaneously airing the exact same stories that, while potentially troubling, do not merit top billing of the national news of the day.  It was simply a concerted effort to continue driving (liberal) narratives.  The media has destroyed whatever credibility they ever had.

    And yet you keep on tuning in....

  • Dr Winston O'Boogie replied to "What was the last movie you watched?" at 12:01 pm

  • The Lives of Others (German): 8.5/10.  Great film set in East Berlin in the 1980s about a Stasi agent who finds his humanity while spying on a writer and his girlfriend suspected on subverting the East German regime.

    Goodbyle Lenin (German) 9.5/10.  Awesome movie about a son who's mother is dedicated to the East German state.  While she suffers a heart attack and is in a coma for 8 months, the wall falls.  When she awakes, her son attempts to persuade her that nothing has changed so that she will not be upset and suffer another heart attack.  Funny, interesting and moving.  

On Nov 20, 2019:

  • Dr Winston O'Boogie replied to "Impressed by the Trump administration part II" at 05:23 pm
  • posted by QuakerOats

     

     

    When you have a regime that was raising your costs at the same time it was hamstringing your competitiveness through terrible trade deals, you are not inclined to put your capital at risk.  When that regime leaves, and a business-friendly administration takes over, you are more inclined to re-invest and grow.  There were thousands of businesses that simply hunkered down in order to try and survive the obama years.  Most of them have since come out of safe mode and have begun to spend and expand, directly because of who is now in the White House.  That’s a fact.

    I can think of two of the largest projects your cited on here that started prior to Trump's election.  The economy is doing well now according to many metrics.  But it also did well according to many metrics during Obama's "regime".  Isn't it possible that macro economic factors take place according a longer view than presidential politics?