killdeer wrote:
Ridiculous comparison.........any casual or intense fan will note that the NFL essentially ignores team records and team titles that exist prior to the AFL/NFL merge and the subsequent Super Bowl era. I am not saying I necessarily agree with that...just that it is a fact. Any football fan younger than 50 will have no working knowledge of any semblence of a Cleveland Brown championship.
However, the only thing NNN and I may agree on is that the Nashville Predators are huge losers with absolutely no significant fan base, nor tradition, nor hope for same. I would have nominated them for the greatest loser fan base, except, of the three existing fans, you were posting on the huddle, and the other two were watching women's short program figures at the Olympics.
Except for the fact that the NFL most certainly does
not ignore team records or titles prior to the merger, your first point might hold water.
As for the age of anyone who would remember a Cleveland title, what's your point? I don't remember anyone in 2004 saying "The Red Sox have never won a championship since no one under age 90 remembers it happening".
To your second point, nowhere in that idiotic rambling did anything that you posted make a shred of sense. I was a Vancouver fan from the time I first started following the NHL (1987) through the 2006-07 season, at which point I switched over to Columbus. My avatar is Murray Bannerman's legendary kabuki mask...Bannerman played with Chicago. Before that was Gary Bromley's skull mask...and he played with Vancouver at the time.
So basically, you're 0 for 3. Congratulations on being mediocre.
krazie45 wrote:
So do pre-BCS era college football national championships count? Or how about championships won since they decided to create the BCS Championship game instead of simply having the championship played at one of the 4 major bowl games? Under some of your logic....they do not.
As for pre-Super Bowl championships not "counting" that's ridiculous. Do you think that during the 4th Super Bowl people were saying that those prior championships were nullified? No. Just because the name of the game changed does not mean that the Super Bowl is still not for the NFL Championship. The Super Bowl is the name of the game played for the NFL championship.
Say for instance, MLB baseball decided that the World Series should no longer be called the World Series since the world is not involved so they move to officially re-name it the MLB Finals. The new MLB Finals would still be deciding the champion of Major League Baseball, the name would just be different. I, nor any person with any sense of logic, would not be nullifying the Yankees 28 championships because they changed the name of the series that decides the MLB champion. Therefore you cannot discredit teams that won NFL Championships because they changed the name of the game that decides the NFL champion.
Sorry but the AFL-NFL merger argument is bullshit as well. The Super Bowl is not a game between the champion of the NFL and the champion of the AFL. The AFL no longer exists. The game is between the champions of two conferences of the NFL, the AFC and NFC. These conferences were set by the NFL. So now anyone trying to use that argument has to base it upon more teams being added....ok I can play that game too. Any championships (no matter what the game is called) won before the Texans were added as an expansion team counts. See how easy that was? See how ridiculous that sounds. Sorry but no one is going to be able to effectively argue against these points.
Here are the titles that would actually count for anything.
NFL/APFL season-ending championship (no playoffs) - 1920-1932
NFL champions - 1933-1969
AAFC champions - 1946-1949
AFL champions - 1960-69
NFL champion (Super Bowl) - 1970-present
What's often overlooked is that the first four Super Bowls were for nothing but bragging rights; it was an exhibition between the NFL and AFL champions. If the NFL had refused to play the game in 1968 and 1969, everyone would remember Baltimore and Minnesota as the champions just as surely as Green Bay in 1961, 1962, and 1965.
The AAFC and AFL championships would still count because the NFL basically absorbed those two leagues, which is also why the USFL wouldn't count, the CFL wouldn't count, and the AFL of 1926 wouldn't count.
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