h2thaizzo wrote: Fuck the defense hoopla bullshit. You know when good defense matters, when you look up at the scoreboard at the end of the game and see you were up by at least one point. Is it good defense when you lose 86-85? Bad defense when you win 112-110? His unwillingness to learn offense costs this team time after time. How many games in the past year can you remember us giving up double digit leads and wind up losing? I'm gonna guess its at least ten. And that represents good defense how? He's been here what, 5 seasons, and where he could have learned how to coach both offense and defense, he instead appointed an "offensive coordinator". Yeah, that's great coaching.

What Mike Brown does to this team would be about the same as turning on the Colts game this weekend to watch Indy run the ball 40 times. You have LeBron James, arguably the best scorer in the NBA currently, and your team can't score 100 points? We have a team of guys that can score. Mo Williams, nearly a 20 PPG guy last year. Parker nearly 11 PPG last year. Delonte nearly 12 PPG last year. etc. Mo's scoring is down almost 3 ppg. Parker and West's averages are down 3 ppg on the season. We are taking two less FG per game than we were last season.

Our opponents are taking more shot attempts than we are. These all add up to reasons why we lose. Look at last night. Utah took 11 more shot attempts than we did. They only shot 40% for the night, but those 11 extra attempts resulted in them making one more field goal than we did on the night, and guess what, that last field goal is what beat us. That's why I say fuck defense. Our best defense is scoring 100 points or more. You know why? We've lost one game all season where we scored 100 or more points. We're 23-1 when we score 100 or more, and we're 7-10 when we score less than 100 points on the season. Go back to last years results, its nearly identical. So, why when you're nearly unbeatable when you score triple digits, and practically .500 when you don't, do you NOT preach to your team to score as many points as possible? That slow, sluggish offense we run every game kills us. The way we play ball, we HAVE to shoot well in order to win, that's not good coaching. Good coaching is Jerry Sloan. You know LeBron's gonna get his points, let him. Make sure you contain everyone else, and its imperative to take as many attempts as possible. If we took this mentality, I guarantee we would be a much better team.

h2thaizzo wrote: LTrain, its much more than a loss, it's becoming a trend for this team to blow big leads. There's no reason for it, at all, yet it happens I'd say every other loss for us. It's like the guy goes into the locker room telling our guys "just maintain that lead the second half and we will win the game".

Footwedge wrote:

devil1197 wrote:

Footwedge wrote:

devil1197 wrote: I have said it before that Brown needed to be fired years ago and I say it during wins also.

The guy hides behind LeBron's efforts every night.

Mike Brown is a damn good coach. Basically, NBA coaches are graded on how well they play defensively. He gets an A in my book.

And he has done an even better job this year over last year given all the new pieces. Leave it to Cleveland fans to bitch about Brown.

Unreal.

Are you fucking high?

Brown got completely out coached by Van Gundy last year in the playoffs, Brown had absolutely no answer rotation wise. He was like a lost puppy dog trying to figure out what the hell to do.

Yes, he is a great defensive minded coach but he has no clue what to do on offense and for the majority of the year his rotations have been piss poor. And when the team doesn't come out with intensity on the defensive end, we'll be screwed because he just sits on the bench and prays that LeBron puts up 40 every night.

Brown would have been fired a long time ago if he didn't have one of the greatest players in the game right now.

Then send in your resume. I'm sure this team would do better with you calling the shots.

Only in Cleveland....and I mean ONLY in Cleveland... will you find assholes that will complain about a coach that, according to his peers and the media, earned NBA COACH OF THE YEAR last year.

What that means is....he was rated better than 31 head coaches, including the Yoga Maharishi himself in LA.

Devil...you need to get a breath of fresh air.

Footwedge wrote:

h2thaizzo wrote: Fuck the defense hoopla bullshit. You know when good defense matters, when you look up at the scoreboard at the end of the game and see you were up by at least one point. Is it good defense when you lose 86-85? Bad defense when you win 112-110? His unwillingness to learn offense costs this team time after time. How many games in the past year can you remember us giving up double digit leads and wind up losing? I'm gonna guess its at least ten. And that represents good defense how? He's been here what, 5 seasons, and where he could have learned how to coach both offense and defense, he instead appointed an "offensive coordinator". Yeah, that's great coaching.

What Mike Brown does to this team would be about the same as turning on the Colts game this weekend to watch Indy run the ball 40 times. You have LeBron James, arguably the best scorer in the NBA currently, and your team can't score 100 points? We have a team of guys that can score. Mo Williams, nearly a 20 PPG guy last year. Parker nearly 11 PPG last year. Delonte nearly 12 PPG last year. etc. Mo's scoring is down almost 3 ppg. Parker and West's averages are down 3 ppg on the season. We are taking two less FG per game than we were last season.

Our opponents are taking more shot attempts than we are. These all add up to reasons why we lose. Look at last night. Utah took 11 more shot attempts than we did. They only shot 40% for the night, but those 11 extra attempts resulted in them making one more field goal than we did on the night, and guess what, that last field goal is what beat us. That's why I say fuck defense. Our best defense is scoring 100 points or more. You know why? We've lost one game all season where we scored 100 or more points. We're 23-1 when we score 100 or more, and we're 7-10 when we score less than 100 points on the season. Go back to last years results, its nearly identical. So, why when you're nearly unbeatable when you score triple digits, and practically .500 when you don't, do you NOT preach to your team to score as many points as possible? That slow, sluggish offense we run every game kills us. The way we play ball, we HAVE to shoot well in order to win, that's not good coaching. Good coaching is Jerry Sloan. You know LeBron's gonna get his points, let him. Make sure you contain everyone else, and its imperative to take as many attempts as possible. If we took this mentality, I guarantee we would be a much better team.

What was the Cav record last year in 5 point games? Also, the Ccavalier comeback 4th quarter wins last year far outnumbered the blown games.

You are another Cleveland fan that needs to turn in your fancard.

Mike Brown's team is 30 and 11...Instead of bitchin so much....you should be thankful we have a great pro team to cheer for.

Footwedge wrote:

h2thaizzo wrote: LTrain, its much more than a loss, it's becoming a trend for this team to blow big leads. There's no reason for it, at all, yet it happens I'd say every other loss for us. It's like the guy goes into the locker room telling our guys "just maintain that lead the second half and we will win the game".

NBA always is laced with runs. The Bulls blew a 35 point lead a month ago. The Cavs record when leading going to the 4th is one of the highest percentages in basketball. Get a clue.

september63 wrote: How many Titles has Jerry Sloan won? OH.............TY Ill answer, it is also 0.

Cleveland should reach the Finals but there is a great probability that the opposing coach will actually coach their team to victory.

h2thaizzo wrote:

september63 wrote: How many Titles has Jerry Sloan won? OH.............TY Ill answer, it is also 0.

Congratulations, you're rewarded with the dumb fuck post of the night award.

ytownfootball wrote: I really have a hard time inderstanding how someone can defend Brown, It's not like he's being asked to run different x and o's, I just want him to make the most basic of coaching requierements as calling time outs when needed, put in the player who's hot and inbound the ball with someone other than your best player. Simple, basic coaching maneuvers that can be done with very little effort. Is that really to much to expect from a professional NBA coach?

Footwedge wrote:

Cleveland should reach the Finals but there is a great probability that the opposing coach will actually coach their team to victory.

Listen up Devil...and your little butt bud Hizzo. The guy won coach of the year. Why? Because going into the season, the team was picked 3rd or 4th on the conference. The team won a record 66 games...and assholes abound on the other board bitched and moaned all year.

You and your harem here can cry all you want. I istened to your shit all last year. You ruin the boards for those of us that enjoy watching a great team...coached by the coach of the year.

I'm done with you. Fuck off.

Footwedge wrote:

h2thaizzo wrote:

september63 wrote: How many Titles has Jerry Sloan won? OH.............TY Ill answer, it is also 0.

Congratulations, you're rewarded with the dumb fuck post of the night award.

No waterboy....you have cornered the market on shit posts. Take a very well deserved bow.

You and Devil need to get a room.

Footwedge wrote: "Brown, who has taken Cleveland to the postseason in each of his four seasons, was honored Monday as the league's top coach after leading the Cavaliers to 66 wins, a Central Division title and the No. 1 overall playoff seed following the greatest regular season in club history."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4083787


Only in Cleveland will you find "fans" that bitch about their record setting coach. Pretty disgusting indeed.

h2thaizzo wrote: What was the Cav record last year in 5 point games? Also, the Ccavalier comeback 4th quarter wins last year far outnumbered the blown games.

You are another Cleveland fan that needs to turn in your fancard.

Mike Brown's team is 30 and 11...Instead of bitchin so much....you should be thankful we have a great pro team to cheer for.

ytownfootball wrote: Relax, you could just as easily make a case that no play was drawn up that didn't require your hottest player to inbound the ball or play keep away for more than .1 ticks off the clock. Brown knows defense there's no denying that. We wouldn't be having this convo had the FT's been made, but Brown leaves me scratching my head at times, even when they win.

Just basic stuff, the stuff you would do differently, the stuff I would do differently, the stuff the rest of the NBA coaches would have done differently given the situation.

sportswizuhrd wrote:

h2thaizzo wrote: What was the Cav record last year in 5 point games? Also, the Ccavalier comeback 4th quarter wins last year far outnumbered the blown games.

You are another Cleveland fan that needs to turn in your fancard.

Mike Brown's team is 30 and 11...Instead of bitchin so much....you should be thankful we have a great pro team to cheer for.

11-5..

This year...5-5.

L-Chicago 86-85
W-Utah 107-103
L-@ Memphis 111-109
W-Portland 109-104
W-Milwaukee 85-82
W-Atlanta 106-101
L-Charlotte 91-88
L-@ Denver 99-97
W-@ Golden State 117-114
L-@ Utah 97-96

LeBron is averaging 33.3 points with 8.3 boards and 7.2 assists in those 10 games(33.6 pts/8.4 boards/6.2 assists in the 5 losses..shooting 52.1% from the field compared to 54.1 in the wins).

Team...Win by 5- outscoring opp 524-504
Lose by 5-outscored by 484-475

h2thaizzo wrote:

That's my issue with the guy. He CONSTANTLY lets us make the same damn mistakes in losses. It wouldn't be such a big deal to me if I didn't see us shit away two huge leads against Orlando in the playoffs last year in a series we easily could have won. We haven't learned anything from that series it seems, we went out and got players to match up better against them, but as far as game planning goes, its quite shitty to say the least. I find myself at times hoping we are down at halftime, because that means come second half we aren't going to be able to come out flat thinking we can play Tressel ball, to put it kindly, and pull out a win.

Footwedge wrote: "Brown, who has taken Cleveland to the postseason in each of his four seasons, was honored Monday as the league's top coach after leading the Cavaliers to 66 wins, a Central Division title and the No. 1 overall playoff seed following the greatest regular season in club history."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4083787


Only in Cleveland will you find "fans" that bitch about their record setting coach. Pretty disgusting indeed.

ytownfootball wrote:

h2thaizzo wrote:

That's my issue with the guy. He CONSTANTLY lets us make the same damn mistakes in losses. It wouldn't be such a big deal to me if I didn't see us shit away two huge leads against Orlando in the playoffs last year in a series we easily could have won. We haven't learned anything from that series it seems, we went out and got players to match up better against them, but as far as game planning goes, its quite shitty to say the least. I find myself at times hoping we are down at halftime, because that means come second half we aren't going to be able to come out flat thinking we can play Tressel ball, to put it kindly, and pull out a win.

Just calling a TO to break rythm would be a huge improvement imo. When you're up 18 and they score 8 unanswered...call a damn TO. NBA coaching 101.

september63 wrote:

Footwedge wrote: "Brown, who has taken Cleveland to the postseason in each of his four seasons, was honored Monday as the league's top coach after leading the Cavaliers to 66 wins, a Central Division title and the No. 1 overall playoff seed following the greatest regular season in club history."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4083787


Only in Cleveland will you find "fans" that bitch about their record setting coach. Pretty disgusting indeed.

I agree. Although it probably isnt only in Cleveland.