O-Trap;1841463 wrote:...
Certainly, that last part is something that needs to be considered.

I would ask, though: Is your view to follow the law, regardless of whether or not you think the law is immoral?

I'm not really meaning to provoke an argument. Just curious about your statement and the possible implications pertaining to your moral hierarchy.....

Con_Alma;1841465 wrote:Since morality is subjective and I choose to live in a land ruled by law, yes, I would follow the law while fighting to have it changed.

O-Trap;1841469 wrote:At the risk of pulling on that thread, why fight to change it? If morality is subjective anyway, then what justifies any motivation to change the law of the land?

Also, while I agree that morality being completely subjective is the most intellectually satisfying from some prior foundations, it seems like it would tend to be easier to adopt as someone who doesn't happen to be victimized by anything, would it not?

Con_Alma;1841471 wrote:Why?...as an effort to obtain a law which was reflective of my morality.

Con_Alma;1841471 wrote: Easier to adopt??? I guess but the level of difficulty in adopting shouldn't or in my own personal case doesn't dictate the acceptance of a certain moral standing or not.

O-Trap;1841483 wrote:But what is the justification for wishing your own preferred brand of morality to be law? If you believe morality to be subjective, then you acknowledge your own moral code to be as subjective as any other. So why try to change what's already in place? What reason is there, beyond something self-involved?



It would seem hard to say "shouldn't" under such a view, I would think.

O-Trap;1841417 wrote:So, ultimately, if a married couple is adamantly opposed to having more children, abstinence is the best practice?

Theoretically correct, I suppose. However, with every example you've given of measures one can take, I know personal examples where they've failed.

O-Trap;1841463 wrote:


Perhaps this wouldn't be a bad parallel for some on here who sarcastically refer to Islam as a religion of peace. I wonder if they might lay the same brand of condemnation on the Catholic Church for the actions of a small percentage.

O-Trap;1841463 wrote:Perhaps this wouldn't be a bad parallel for some on here who sarcastically refer to Islam as a religion of peace. I wonder if they might lay the same brand of condemnation on the Catholic Church for the actions of a small percentage.

Devils Advocate;1841835 wrote:Yep... The KKK is a Christian Organization.

BoatShoes;1841077 wrote:It is not arbitrary IMHO. Brain waves emanating from the frontal lobes from which consciousness and sentience emanates and connections between the thalamus and the cortex are,morally relevant facts.

The cessation of these functions is when natural death occurs as lower brain structures can emanate waves well after natural death.

Much more morally significant in my humble opinion than say a heartbeat as a heart is just a pump and we can replace them with artificial ones.

At the end of the day it is about finding a pragmatic place to figuring out when the unborn should be subject to the jurisdiction of the state as sovereign have the state's sovereignty replace the mother as sovereign.

Devils Advocate;1842350 wrote:Yep... Just like the Catholic church. You can't just be any person walking past the church and expect to enter and get saved.

You need to be indoctrinated and give me money first.

Devils Advocate;1842510 wrote:How is it wrong, papal penis palpitation boy?

Heretic;1843095 wrote:Interesting. The (wet) dream girl for elderly conservative dudes (because she tells them what they want to hear about how their generation was all tough and shit and it's the current one that sucks) got suspended from The Blaze for being pro-choice.

Lol.

Heretic;1843095 wrote:Interesting. The (wet) dream girl for elderly conservative dudes (because she tells them what they want to hear about how their generation was all tough and shit and it's the current one that sucks) got suspended from The Blaze for being pro-choice.

Heretic;1843095 wrote:Interesting. The (wet) dream girl for elderly conservative dudes (because she tells them what they want to hear about how their generation was all tough and shit and it's the current one that sucks) got suspended from The Blaze for being pro-choice.

Lol.

QuakerOats;1843119 wrote:Fuck off.

Devils Advocate;1843180 wrote:Thank you.

Now tell me how a person can walk off of the street and get saved by the Catholic church with it the indoctrination and the tithes.

Just admit your papal penis palpitating propensities and and produce a predictable and preposterous plethora of petulance, you P. U. SSY

CenterBHSFan;1843183 wrote:So, what's your opinion about International Women's Day? (if you have one)