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Apr 26, 2017 10:50 AM
ppaw1999;1849840 wrote:http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/republicans-exempt-their-own-insurance-from-their-latest-health-care-proposal/ar-BBAnqI1?li=BBnb7Kz

Once again Congress looks out for themselves. Double standards as usual. I don't think this is just a Republican issue. I am sure the Democrats would want this protection too.
They already did.

Just another argument for less government. Wake up people.
Apr 26, 2017 10:50am
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Apr 26, 2017 11:14 AM
like_that;1849842 wrote:They already did.

Just another argument for less government. Wake up people.
Or better government rather than GOP propaganda to hamstring government and then blame government.
Apr 26, 2017 11:14am
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Apr 26, 2017 12:08 PM
sleeper;1849848 wrote:Or better government rather .
Not happening with our current two party system.
Apr 26, 2017 12:08pm
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Apr 26, 2017 12:14 PM
like_that;1849862 wrote:Not happening with our current two party system.
Or people could vote for the party that spends time trying to pass good policy rather than hamstring the government and then blame the government.
Apr 26, 2017 12:14pm
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Apr 26, 2017 12:22 PM
sleeper;1849863 wrote:Or people could vote for the party that spends time trying to pass good policy rather than hamstring the government and then blame the government.
I agree. People should vote for the Libertarian party.
Apr 26, 2017 12:22pm
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Apr 27, 2017 9:26 AM
Sounds like they've come up with a Plan B that the freedom caucus says they'll endorse.
Apr 27, 2017 9:26am
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Apr 27, 2017 10:16 AM
sleeper;1849863 wrote:Or people could vote for the party that spends time trying to pass good policy rather than hamstring the government and then blame the government.
like_that;1849866 wrote:I agree. People should vote for the Libertarian party.
I hate that people vote for a party........

I wish voters would investigate the candidates and vote for the one that most closely aligned with their views and desires.
Apr 27, 2017 10:16am
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Apr 28, 2017 6:01 AM
Federal government quagmire will remain the same until term limits is law ....then and only then will politicans, government and policy change and party politic agenda will be less a matter of voting popularity
Apr 28, 2017 6:01am
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Apr 28, 2017 11:19 AM
Belly35;1850509 wrote:Federal government quagmire will remain the same until term limits is law ....then and only then will politicans, government and policy change and party politic agenda will be less a matter of voting popularity
I agree with this. But, nobody wants to be the one who starts that ball rolling.
Apr 28, 2017 11:19am
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Apr 28, 2017 4:45 PM
Belly35;1850509 wrote:Federal government quagmire will remain the same until term limits is law ....then and only then will politicans, government and policy change and party politic agenda will be less a matter of voting popularity
Term limits don't need to be short. Set it at 12 years.
Apr 28, 2017 4:45pm
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May 1, 2017 11:26 AM
Spock;1850693 wrote:Term limits don't need to be short. Set it at 12 years.
8 years, tops.
May 1, 2017 11:26am
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May 4, 2017 1:00 PM
ppaw1999;1851412 wrote:http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/gop-rushing-to-vote-on-healthcare-without-analysis-of-changes/ar-BBAIzGe?li=BBnb7Kz

Great another health care bill to be voted on without knowing what's in it. New boss just like the old boss. SMH.
Honestly, I don't know why healthcare has to be "so complicated".

1) Make it illegal for insurance companies to ask about pre-existing conditions
2) Expand Medicaid and increase it's advertising budget.

I just accomplished what Obamacare did with 2 lines instead of 2000 pages.
May 4, 2017 1:00pm
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May 4, 2017 1:42 PM
That makes sense. It will never fly.
May 4, 2017 1:42pm
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May 4, 2017 1:55 PM
gut;1851453 wrote:Honestly, I don't know why healthcare has to be "so complicated".

1) Make it illegal for insurance companies to ask about pre-existing conditions
2) Expand Medicaid and increase it's advertising budget.

I just accomplished what Obamacare did with 2 lines instead of 2000 pages.
Politicians need things to be complicated so they look important and necessary.
May 4, 2017 1:55pm
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May 4, 2017 1:58 PM
Heretic;1851464 wrote:Politicians need things to be complicated so they look important and necessary.
Truth, otherwise people would wake up and realize that we really don't need them in many aspects of our lives.
May 4, 2017 1:58pm
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May 4, 2017 2:06 PM
BIG Government involvement in health insurance created the problem.

Thinking government can then solve the problem is rather ludicrous. At this point, limiting further damage is a win.

What a sorry state ...........obamaKare remains the largest legislative and administrative disaster in the history of the republic.
May 4, 2017 2:06pm
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May 4, 2017 2:07 PM
like_that;1851466 wrote:Truth, otherwise people would wake up and realize that we really don't need them in many aspects of our lives.
Citation needed.
May 4, 2017 2:07pm
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May 4, 2017 2:09 PM
like_that;1851466 wrote:Truth, otherwise people would wake up and realize that we really don't need them in many aspects of our lives.
How many of our laws are actually written by law school/public policy students with absolutely no real world experience? I'd guess most of it. I suppose it's great training for their future as a know-nothing politician.

Got a bit of an education from a corporate "govt affairs" guy I worked with. Basically told me they pay lobbyists and make political donations to educate politicians from passing horrible laws (and, a lot of times, they're opposing litigation lawyers on the other side who are basically playing the govt like the lottery).

Lobbyists are a problem and a source of corporate welfare.....BUT if the bureaucrats were allowed to operate out of a vacuum in their little bubble the results would be a disaster.
May 4, 2017 2:09pm
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May 4, 2017 2:27 PM
Annnd the house just passed the bill. I really hate the people running our country.
May 4, 2017 2:27pm
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May 4, 2017 2:29 PM
How hard/easy will this get through the Senate?
May 4, 2017 2:29pm
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May 4, 2017 2:35 PM
Laley23;1851474 wrote:How hard/easy will this get through the Senate?
I doub it gets thru. I would say it's a safe bet that cruz and paul vote against it. All it would take is one more "no."
May 4, 2017 2:35pm