Mifflin
West
Whetstone

My picks

great95;1377253 wrote:Agreed mf could possibly have 4 champs

Definately, those guys will be challenged though.

285 Brian Gray (West) vs. DeAnte Gray (Marion Franklin)
** Special stipulation - loser must change their last name.

182 Paco Quinnoz (West) vs. Jhulyis Monroe (Marion Franklin)

138/145 Charles Parkham vs. Mills/Alexander/???

They also have a solid 195 and I believe a solid light weight somewhere that are both capable?

285 is a toss-up between the twins (lol!). Think Monroe is too explosive for Paco. Parkham loses to either Alexander or Mills. MF isn't the machine it used to be under Lenny Ball, but are still dangerous. I think West has the most complete and capable lineup with Mifflin, South and Whetstone breathing down their neck!

Marion Franklin was a machine that last 6 years, but re-builds happen!!
I think Parkham can go with either of the two mentioned, winning might be a stretch, but you never know. I think Monroe is a handful for anyone he wrestles. When he shoots he is lethal. In my opinion without Mills, Alexander and Parkham, the city is pretty much down more than I have seen in the last 10 years. There are Two Decent HWT's that could make some noise if they took a shot, EVER... Watching those two wrestle is a battle between Grass Growing, and Paint Drying, the excitment is amazing.
In my opinion, Paco could shake things up at Darby if he gets hot. 182 might be one of the weakest weights in the district, that being said, paco is pretty tough.
I like David Stockton to make some noise. There isn't anyone in the city that can handle him, and I don't want to hear anything about the mifflin kid. I'm pretty sure Stockton handed him two losses this year pretty handidly. I'm not sure about the tate boys. I know they are athletic and hard nosed, but I have heard they struggle to finish a long season. (Heard this from coaches they previously had. It's amazing what coaches tell you after you retire.)

It will be exciting to see who catches fire at the city tourny, and who cashes in the chips after the meet. Lack of mat time and experience make it easy for kids to feel like the season is finished after city. The last 10 years one of the hardest things to do was to motivate kids to make it to the next level. Districts/State.
I only see Two kids that are on pace to compete in March. Alexander, and Mills. Like mentioned above, there are kids with the ability phisically, but I don't think mentally they are capable.

Good luck to all city guys. Please don't quit after the tournament, the season is just beginning at sectionals.

My predictions I forgot to put those in..

No particular order top five
Team Possible Champs
West 5
Mifflin 5
Whetstone--------------------->Not Sure, but 3rd and 4th place finishes will help here.
South-------------------------->Same as Whetstone with the placement
MFHS-------------------------->5 Not much Fire power after these five

lowsingle174;1377435 wrote:Marion Franklin was a machine that last 6 years, but re-builds happen!!
I think Parkham can go with either of the two mentioned, winning might be a stretch, but you never know. I think Monroe is a handful for anyone he wrestles. When he shoots he is lethal. In my opinion without Mills, Alexander and Parkham, the city is pretty much down more than I have seen in the last 10 years. There are Two Decent HWT's that could make some noise if they took a shot, EVER... Watching those two wrestle is a battle between Grass Growing, and Paint Drying, the excitment is amazing.
In my opinion, Paco could shake things up at Darby if he gets hot. 182 might be one of the weakest weights in the district, that being said, paco is pretty tough.
I like David Stockton to make some noise. There isn't anyone in the city that can handle him, and I don't want to hear anything about the mifflin kid. I'm pretty sure Stockton handed him two losses this year pretty handidly. I'm not sure about the tate boys. I know they are athletic and hard nosed, but I have heard they struggle to finish a long season. (Heard this from coaches they previously had. It's amazing what coaches tell you after you retire.)

It will be exciting to see who catches fire at the city tourny, and who cashes in the chips after the meet. Lack of mat time and experience make it easy for kids to feel like the season is finished after city. The last 10 years one of the hardest things to do was to motivate kids to make it to the next level. Districts/State.
I only see Two kids that are on pace to compete in March. Alexander, and Mills. Like mentioned above, there are kids with the ability phisically, but I don't think mentally they are capable.

Good luck to all city guys. Please don't quit after the tournament, the season is just beginning at sectionals.

Mr. Lowsingle174, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this forum is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Westie101;1377539 wrote:Mr. Lowsingle174, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this forum is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Lighting Dog Poo and the Human Response.....Fingers Crossed!!! Great movie...

I agree. IMO The city is going to see a big drop off in District Qualifiers across the board, but between Alexander and Mills a city guy has a good shot in doing something at State since Flea made his run.

PS Marion Fanklin was still steam rolling well into the Oney era, and the current struggles are just the pains of the rebuilding process. Their new coach is more than capable and is doing a great job.

Oney did a great job at MF, no doubt, but he was given the keys to "the machine". I'm positive MF will return to dominance and, yes, they have a good young coach. The city will never be a huge threat because "the powers that be" don't understand the goldmine they're sitting on (same for football)...no MS programs, poor funding, poor facilities, etc.. This, though, is another topic and one that has been beaten to death!

Just heard that both Mills and Hannibal made scratch at the State Duals. Its looking like a 99% chance that we will see Mills vs. Alexander II: This time...its personal!

Both are good to go for city and beyond! Still not positive Alexander will be at 145 instead of 138, but we only have a week to wait!

lowsingle174;1377435 wrote:I like David Stockton to make some noise. There isn't anyone in the city that can handle him, and I don't want to hear anything about the mifflin kid. I'm pretty sure Stockton handed him two losses this year pretty handidly. I'm not sure about the tate boys. I know they are athletic and hard nosed, but I have heard they struggle to finish a long season. (Heard this from coaches they previously had. It's amazing what coaches tell you after you retire.)

Stockton IS good, but he only beat Robinson 6-4 the only time they wrestled this year (Robinson tried a lazy throw and gave up a takedown). Robinson has the ability to make the podium in March, but the work ethic is the question. The Tate boys play 3 sports and aren't able to focus solely on wrestling like a lot of other wrestlers these "former coaches" have, so it's easy for them to make comments like that.

It is what it is;1377975 wrote:Stockton IS good, but he only beat Robinson 6-4 the only time they wrestled this year (Robinson tried a lazy throw and gave up a takedown). Robinson has the ability to make the podium in March, but the work ethic is the question. The Tate boys play 3 sports and aren't able to focus solely on wrestling like a lot of other wrestlers these "former coaches" have, so it's easy for them to make comments like that.

So, you're saying Robinson COULD beat Stockton...if he had a better work ethic? And, if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle. Heck, everyone (technically) has the "ability" to "make the podium in March," but wrestling is ALL about work ethic.

It is what it is;1377847 wrote:Oney did a great job at MF, no doubt, but he was given the keys to "the machine". I'm positive MF will return to dominance and, yes, they have a good young coach. The city will never be a huge threat because "the powers that be" don't understand the goldmine they're sitting on (same for football)...no MS programs, poor funding, poor facilities, etc.. This, though, is another topic and one that has been beaten to death!

I wouldnt say its been beaten to death or else the "powers to be would have given in by now" tell you your kids parents and community members to call school board and complain thats how things will change.

Tjones85;1378176 wrote:I wouldnt say its been beaten to death or else the "powers to be would have given in by now" tell you your kids parents and community members to call school board and complain thats how things will change.

My kids have parents?!

It is what it is;1377975 wrote:Stockton IS good, but he only beat Robinson 6-4 the only time they wrestled this year (Robinson tried a lazy throw and gave up a takedown). Robinson has the ability to make the podium in March, but the work ethic is the question. The Tate boys play 3 sports and aren't able to focus solely on wrestling like a lot of other wrestlers these "former coaches" have, so it's easy for them to make comments like that.

I understand about playing 3 sports and not focusing on one, heck, I didn't concentrate on wrestling solely until I wrestled in college. As for the Tate boys, coming from schools where focusing on one sport is almost an un-written rule I understand how some of the coaches would say some things to me. Good point.
As for Robinson, I heard he was really talented. I've actually heard about him for the last couple of years, but he held himself back academically. Is he a junior or a senior?

Westie101;1377910 wrote:Just heard that both Mills and Hannibal made scratch at the State Duals. Its looking like a 99% chance that we will see Mills vs. Alexander II: This time...its personal!

Anyone have thoughts on this match-up? I haven't seen mills this year yet, but I heard he had put on some good muscle and a lot of outside mat time.

Last year I Bet on Mills and alexander proved me wrong. This year I am leaning on Alexander. I have heard there have been some heated exchanges this year between these two and their coaches! I like the rivalry. Personally I think the will be in different weight classes this year. I don't think anyone is ducking anyone, but I believe Mills will be at 152 for his teams sake in hopes for the team title. I completly agree from a coaching standpoint, but as a selfish fan of the sport, I want to see these two tangle again! I think both young men are great and I have worked with them both. It is matches like these that get fans excited and motivate younger wrestlers to be involved and committed.

cant wait for the city tourny this year not as deep with dq and potential sq but these kids we keep bring up have a great chance all u need is a driving force
*for mills it should be missing weight as a sopohmore and almost making it last year
*for alexander getting there and having the moment swallow him up (he did not look good at states)
*for tate coming from that school out west he showed last year he could go with anyone but just getting stuck last night should be enough fuel if he has put the time in on the mat (great talent)
*stockton has a good chance just needs to be in great shape and dont do anything crazy on the mat

lowsingle robinson has all the physical tools from what i have seen big kid mean athletic as heck but can you grind out a full match when it is time to?
wishing all these young me and all the city wrestlers good luck through out the post season

BTW cant wait to watch you know who win states this year what a moment for him and his family

Half Full Nelson;1378188 wrote:My kids have parents?!

whenever i try to tell my kids' parent to do something, it doesn't work out too well

Work ethic is vital in EVERY sport; what makes good..better and better..best! Yes, Robinson can beat Stockton, but won't due to previously mentioned issue. I haven't heard about any problems between Alexander and Mills or their coaches, but it is a rivalry; who knows if they end up in the same weight class at city?? This is the time of the year that wrestlers get exposed for what work they have, or HAVE NOT, put in to be successful...good luck to those that have put in the work and to those that haven't...the lights are bright when you look up at them!!

Does anyone have any infor on the rest of the weights in the city? I think everyone knows wheat is happenning in the middle.

Westie, can I get a rundown?

106 Ali E, West kid

113 Lehnen WH, Bonnar BH

120 Wright MF, West

126 Tate MI, West, Clark MF, South

132 WH, Walnut Ridge, South

138 Alexander NL, Parkham MF, BH, South

145 Mills MI, Parkham MF,

152 Tate MI, Walnut Ridge

160 Bonnar BH, Beechcroft, Coleman MF

170 Valentine South,

182 Monroe MF, Paco West

195 Walnut Ridge, Northland, Wellborn MF

220 Mifflin, Stockton West

285 Gray West, Gray MF

Sorry, I know I missed a bunch of guys. No disrespect to anyone. Please fill in the approriate weights that you think will be a factor this year.

Mifflin has 2 young kids at 106 (Hickman) and 113 (Thomas) that should do well. Lil Tate will be 120 and Boykins will be 126. Chatman at 132 should do well as well as Stevenson at 182. Taylor at 160/170 could be a surprise.

Juty from Briggs is tough at 160 and his big brother will challenge at 220. South has a big 182 that is good. Bobo from Whetstone is good at 160/170. Parkham will be 138 or maybe 132??

Sure there are others I have missed!

How could I forget the Juty Boys, and Boykins. I like that Boykins kid, he is pretty tough. As for Parkham, I KNow his Hydration test says he can go 132, but I think he may be more comfortable at 145. He is in school today, i'll ask him.

As for south, they have a solid group of kids. I just don't know names. As stated above, I KNOW I MISSED A FEW MORE!

Dont sleep on the centennial 113 who beat both ali from east and lehnen from whetstone but lehnen 7-9

But here is my pick on the champs

106- Dont let this mans vision fool you, its his ipad that helps him see his opponates souls so he knows where to punch
113- This devil is scaryon the mat, just make sure he takes his tooth out first
120-The wild man from africa who you can hear coming a mile away
126-Pray for Conners...NOT joking seriously sorry to hear about things
132- Like a bird of pray watch this hawk claw his way to victory
145-Terminator HAHAHA has nothing on the Hearmanator
152-Glory for one Glory for all
160- The italian stallion from the west
170-Some Furry big earred guy from the hobbit clans in the north. You might have seen him on loard of the Rings
182- This warrior got a scar on his eye from batteling a cougar this year
195- Last go around for this one ive heard, anyone want to give their two cents
220- From the cage to the mat comes the Cat
285- THE ONLY MAN that can bench presses over 500 with his neck

Lets not forget : the mad dog from lidnen and the patriot from 1976

With out these crazies this thread wouldnt be up here right now.

It is what it is;1377975 wrote:Stockton IS good, but he only beat Robinson 6-4 the only time they wrestled this year (Robinson tried a lazy throw and gave up a takedown). Robinson has the ability to make the podium in March, but the work ethic is the question. The Tate boys play 3 sports and aren't able to focus solely on wrestling like a lot of other wrestlers these "former coaches" have, so it's easy for them to make comments like that.

I was fortunate enough to be one of Hannibal Tate's "former coaches". In all honesty, he was one of my favorite kids to coach. He was funny, respectful, a little goofy, athletic, and had a fire to win matches. Being a state alternate as a freshman at 145lb. is nothing to be ashamed of. He had a good regular season and even better postseason. I have not been able to follow his results this year but give the kid a break. If he gets focused, the kid can scrap. You never know what's going on in a kid's life.


As for the city league meet, I've always liked reading up on this thread. Regardless of how city league kids do in the postseason (they always have a few studs), the city league tournament itself has a lot of pride. I remember watching this tournament as a young lad back in the late 80's. Lenny Ball was at the helm for Marion-Franklin and the mat stats (all 50+) brought the house down. It was a fun wrestling venue, to say the least.