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Mar 20, 2012 6:58 AM
Fab1b;1121768 wrote:Just drop by each day only to use the restroom and flush multiple times while using as much electric and water as possible why there.
Yeah stoop to her level instead of doing the right thing and paying for the month he verbally agreed to and walk away with lesson learned. smh
Mar 20, 2012 6:58am
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Mar 20, 2012 7:00 AM
Steel Valley Football;1121764 wrote:If you pay for the whole month then don't you have the rights to a key and access to the place for the month you paid?
No, not necessarily and why would he want to do that?
Mar 20, 2012 7:00am
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Mar 20, 2012 9:31 AM
Skyhook79;1121844 wrote:No, not necessarily and why would he want to do that?
To drop by whenever he wanted. Turn all the lights. Leave the water running. Make a lot of noise when she is sleeping. etc...
Mar 20, 2012 9:31am
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Mar 20, 2012 9:46 AM
FatHobbit;1121933 wrote:To drop by whenever he wanted. Turn all the lights. Leave the water running. Make a lot of noise when she is sleeping. etc...
Good advice.:rolleyes:
Mar 20, 2012 9:46am
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Gblock

Mar 20, 2012 9:56 AM
i would make her sue you for it...the price isnt going to go up and at least you would waste a bunch of her time
Mar 20, 2012 9:56am
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Mar 20, 2012 10:04 AM
Yep. Make her sue you.
Mar 20, 2012 10:04am
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Mar 20, 2012 10:06 AM
Gblock;1121947 wrote:i would make her sue you for it...the price isnt going to go up and at least you would waste a bunch of her time

Wouldn't he have to pay court costs if he lost?
Mar 20, 2012 10:06am
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Mar 20, 2012 10:07 AM
SportsAndLady;1121755 wrote:When she showed us the apartment, it wasn't dirty at all, but there were boxes everywhere but she was like this will all be cleaned up when u guys move in. Yeah, that was a bunch of bullshit.
SportsAndLady;1121667 wrote:And take for the future your word is your signature. Good words to live by. That's why the law works like that."
Is the chick you are renting from the same one who said the place would be clean?
Mar 20, 2012 10:07am
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Mar 20, 2012 10:10 AM
While you wouldn't be able to seek damages or even win a court case, it really sound like constructive eviction by the other roomate.
Mar 20, 2012 10:10am
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Mar 20, 2012 10:26 AM
i would pay her for six days and not a dollar more
Mar 20, 2012 10:26am
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Mar 20, 2012 10:26 AM
and court costs are probably only 75 bucks or less im guessing
Mar 20, 2012 10:26am
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Mar 20, 2012 11:13 AM
Skyhook79;1121843 wrote:Yeah stoop to her level instead of doing the right thing and paying for the month he verbally agreed to and walk away with lesson learned. smh

SMH
Mar 20, 2012 11:13am
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Mar 20, 2012 11:17 AM
FatHobbit;1121957 wrote:Is the chick you are renting from the same one who said the place would be clean?
No, first girl is my roommate. Second girl is who im subleasing from.
Mar 20, 2012 11:17am
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Mar 20, 2012 11:19 AM
Gblock;1121947 wrote:i would make her sue you for it...the price isnt going to go up and at least you would waste a bunch of her time
Shes in law school, she said she would love to take me to court.

She already had a letter to send me, I wouldn't give her my address cuz I didn't wanna deal with it, just rather pay her and move on. Take a dump on her porch, etc.
Mar 20, 2012 11:19am
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Mar 20, 2012 11:21 AM
SportsAndLady;1122005 wrote:Shes in law school, she said she would love to take me to court.

She already had a letter to send me, I wouldn't give her my address cuz I didn't wanna deal with it, just rather pay her and move on. Take a dump on her porch, etc.
Tell her that you feel it was a case of constructive eviction due to the conditions changing drastically. Say you have pictures and video of the conditions, blah blah blah. See what she does.
Mar 20, 2012 11:21am
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Mar 20, 2012 11:25 AM
justincredible;1121956 wrote:Wouldn't he have to pay court costs if he lost?
Not to mention pay my attorney. All over $365 which yeah it sucks to pay but its whatever ill be getting paid fairly well soon anyways.
Mar 20, 2012 11:25am
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Mar 20, 2012 11:26 AM
SportsAndLady;1122005 wrote:Shes in law school, she said she would love to take me to court.

She already had a letter to send me, I wouldn't give her my address cuz I didn't wanna deal with it, just rather pay her and move on. Take a dump on her porch, etc.
yea they always say that....and the letter really means nothing that is her trying to scare you...a letter doesnt even mean anything. i bet shes too lazy to sue you
Mar 20, 2012 11:26am
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Mar 20, 2012 11:26 AM
LJ;1122007 wrote:Tell her that you feel it was a case of constructive eviction due to the conditions changing drastically. Say you have pictures and video of the conditions, blah blah blah. See what she does.
I stupidly didn't take pictures or videos but I did have 6 different people see the place while I was there for the 6 days and they all said how disgusting it was and would be a witness in court if needed.
Mar 20, 2012 11:26am
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Gblock

Mar 20, 2012 11:27 AM
u wont need an attorney either. just go to court and say you wanted to live there and you got there and it was dirty and offer to pay for the six days. i bet you would win.
Mar 20, 2012 11:27am
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Mar 20, 2012 12:07 PM
Don't pay her anything. Wait until she actually files suit(she won't). Then pay her. Chances are, she doesn't want to spend that kind of money just to be an ahole to you, because if she sues you its going to cost her time and money.

If you go to small claims court, tell them you'll agree to pay for 6 days because of how disgusting the situation was.
Mar 20, 2012 12:07pm
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Mar 20, 2012 12:10 PM
Pay her in pennies, a giant box of pennies.
Mar 20, 2012 12:10pm
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Mar 20, 2012 12:12 PM
SportsAndLady;1121543 wrote:So I just recently moved to Chicago. Found a place to sublease at until June 31. I moved in last Saturday (3/10) and picked up the sublease papers from the landlord. I had to get the lady I was subleasing for, and the roommate's signature on this paper as well as mine. I emailed her to come sign this and she said she will be out of town until 3/16. So I just sat on the papers until she got back.

In the 6 days of living there, I thought I was going to be sick at how disgusting this chick was that I was living with. There was food left out for what looked like to be more than a week, moldy drinks sitting around, kitchen had no counter space because it had nasty dishes out, there were cockroaches in the bathroom, and the place smelled like a rotten animal or a dead rotten human being (either one works).

So, yeah, I moved out and am now living at a friend's apartment's extra room for less money a month.

She just left me a voicemail saying "call me asap, I heard you moved out..when are you going to pay me my money"

Before I call her back...am I off the hook for the rent money? I mean I didn't sign anything...but I did live there for 6 days without paying anything. Do I have to give her money for the 6 days I lived there?
Pay her for the 6 days and move on. Don't be a cheap bastard. If you stayed their for 6 days, why would you think you don't owe her 6 days worth of rent?!
Mar 20, 2012 12:12pm
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Mar 20, 2012 12:12 PM
Pay in $2's, $1 coins, and pennies.
Mar 20, 2012 12:12pm
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Mar 20, 2012 12:15 PM
McFly1955;1122062 wrote:Pay her in pennies, a giant box of pennies.
Don't bother to count them. Let her do it and tell you how much more you owe her.
Mar 20, 2012 12:15pm
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Mar 20, 2012 12:33 PM
Interesting situation. As LJ mentioned, laws on things like this vary drastically from state-to-state and from city-to-city. If her place actually was unlivable, and you reasonably relied on her assurances that it was livable, and you can demonstrate both of those, you potentially could have a case. The problem is that even if you have a case, it can cost more to win than it does to lose (e.g., do you want to pay an atty a few hundred bucks an hour to represent you? Do you want to pay court costs? Do you want to deal with the hassle? Do you want to run the risk of having a judgment against you?).

She can (and probably will) file in small claims court if you don't pay her the full amount. You'll be at the mercy of the Cook Cty court system at that point.

The problem with dealing with lawyers is that they're all certain they're going to win, and they assume that if they can't win, they can at least bully you into doing what they want. In many instances, it's best to wash your hands of it and move on without fighting over it. Consider it an expensive lesson learned and move on.
Mar 20, 2012 12:33pm