CenterBHSFan wrote:
CenterBHSFan wrote:
Somebody walking by and seeing a nativity scene, no matter where it is, does not mean that that person will be subjectively forced by the government or a group of people or a person to attend a church, synagogue, mosque, or a cabbage patch. How in the world does anybody come up with the notion that they are now being forced into practicing that religion?!????
That idea (or nudge) is severly distorted.
Our constitution gives us the basic right of freedom OF religion.
The whole freedom FROM religion is a misguided idea at best.
Like I said, if we are going to truly be a melting pot of "race", religions, creeds, etc., then it is time to put up or shut up.
One more thing:
Saying that seeing a nativity scene on any sort of government (federal, state or local) property is forcing somebody to follow that religion - is like saying that a woman walking by a President (pick one)while he is sitting down in a chair at the White House means that she now has to marry that President.
See how ridiculous that argument is?
Did someone say that putting up a nativity scene will force someone to follow the religion?
I said "It is hyperbole and a control method to try to enforce religous Christmas on people that choose either other holidays at that time of the year or to celebrate a secular version of Christmas."
It refers to the war on christmas. I did not state that will force people to follow the religion but it does force the religious version of christmas on people and the government would be endorsing such.
Your argument is commonly referred to as a strawman.
You make a weaker version of what is said so that you can burn it up. It fails logically.
The establishment clause is clear.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances
Not of a religion of George Washington for whoever stated that it is no law RESPECTING an establishment of religion. That means any.
It is a two part commentary. First no establishment of any religion at all. However you are allowed to exercise your religion. So there is a divide a seperation of church and state.
