posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

A shittily run business wanting tax money for their dome?  Screw that.  These domes do not provide the economic benefits the team owners portend they do.  Jimmy and Dee Dee run the poorest managed business in its industry.  Why the fuck should taxpayers be asked to give them a nickel more?  

Yeah, the NFL is rolling in money.  No team should be asking the taxpayer to support building a new stadium.  But of course the owners will threaten to move to extract concessions, like just about any business.  But as you point out, cities need to just say no because there's no economic benefit.

Of course, governors and mayors hoping to get re-elected don't want to get blamed for losing a pro team.

Anyway, you guys want to trade 2 #1s for Fields or Wilson?  You can even have your pick.

posted by gut

Yeah, the NFL is rolling in money.  No team should be asking the taxpayer to support building a new stadium.  But of course the owners will threaten to move to extract concessions, like just about any business.  But as you point out, cities need to just say no because there's no economic benefit.

Of course, governors and mayors hoping to get re-elected don't want to get blamed for losing a pro team.

I wish the current iteration of the Browns would leave.  They’re a pathetic franchise.

I can’t believe Watson really blew out his achilles. 

posted by friendfromlowry

I can’t believe Watson really blew out his achilles. 

I wanted the guy benched but didn't want him to go out that way. Now people can see why, after 50 years being a Browns fan, I've never attended a game with the assholes cheering this injury. Same ilk as people hoping the two attempts on Trump were successful. Bunch of idiots.

posted by BR1986FB

I wanted the guy benched but didn't want him to go out that way. Now people can see why, after 50 years being a Browns fan, I've never attended a game with the assholes cheering this injury. Same ilk as people hoping the two attempts on Trump were successful. Bunch of idiots.

That is incredibly disingenuous. Assassinating someone v being happy that a sexual predator is not longer QBing your team are quite different. 

I would not have cheered. I also do not think we have ever seen an injury to a player in this regard. If he had gotten karma some other way, we'd all be happy. He has his $230M, he isn't dead, and will live a completely normal life. I find it hard to condemn people for cheering when a horrible human has karma brought upon them. 

posted by Laley23

That is incredibly disingenuous. Assassinating someone v being happy that a sexual predator is not longer QBing your team are quite different. 

I would not have cheered. I also do not think we have ever seen an injury to a player in this regard. If he had gotten karma some other way, we'd all be happy. He has his $230M, he isn't dead, and will live a completely normal life. I find it hard to condemn people for cheering when a horrible human has karma brought upon them. 

It's classless and the fan base has done this before (see Tim Couch). 

posted by BR1986FB

It's classless and the fan base has done this before (see Tim Couch). 

Couch was cheered for bad play when he got hurt. That is a lot different. Watson is being cheered because the fan base no longer has to cheer for a sexual predator. 

I think most fans weren’t thrilled to have him, but there were also plenty with “whatever, he wasn’t convicted, they just wanted his money, every other team has bad guys, too, blah blah” Those fans better have kept their mouths shut yesterday. 

I wouldn’t cheer for any player getting hurt. And I get the Browns players have to defend their guy. But Garrett can fuck all the way off with his model citizen and “does everything right” BS. 

Browns in an interesting spot. Season is over. No one should pretend with 8-2 they could potentially do this or that, especially with games against Pittsburgh x2, KC, Chargers, etc. But with Winston coming in they could still win some games and shoot their draft positioning in the foot. 

posted by friendfromlowry

I think most fans weren’t thrilled to have him, but there were also plenty with “whatever, he wasn’t convicted, they just wanted his money, every other team has bad guys, too, blah blah” Those fans better have kept their mouths shut yesterday. 

I wouldn’t cheer for any player getting hurt. And I get the Browns players have to defend their guy. But Garrett can fuck all the way off with his model citizen and “does everything right” BS. 

Browns in an interesting spot. Season is over. No one should pretend with 8-2 they could potentially do this or that, especially with games against Pittsburgh x2, KC, Chargers, etc. But with Winston coming in they could still win some games and shoot their draft positioning in the foot. 

Jameis going powerful 

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Total shit show.....rumors floating around that JOK could be traded to the Rams.

posted by BR1986FB

Total shit show.....rumors floating around that JOK could be traded to the Rams.

Franchise is such a joke.  

Can we have Myles Garrett if you guys are doing a fire sale 

posted by BR1986FB

Total shit show.....rumors floating around that JOK could be traded to the Rams.

They might as well just move again   

posted by friendfromlowry

Can we have Myles Garrett if you guys are doing a fire sale 

Teams have been calling. Saw a proposal of two 1st's, a 3rd and a 6th (San Francisco).

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

Franchise is such a joke.  

Garrett, JOK, Ward and (maybe) Emerson are the only keepers on that defense. I expect ZaDarius Smith to get moved as he's in a walk year and the Ravens & Lions have inquired. Would prefer the Lions as I wouldn't pee on a Rat fan if they were on fire.

posted by BR1986FB

Teams have been calling. Saw a proposal of two 1st's, a 3rd and a 6th (San Francisco).

I’d do it.

posted by iclfan2

I’d do it.

Nah, not if Berry is drafting. 

posted by Laley23

Nah, not if Berry is drafting. 

This. Almost makes me long for old "Buddy Boy" Dorsey as GM.

posted by BR1986FB

This. Almost makes me long for old "Buddy Boy" Dorsey as GM.

It really might be a Browns thing. That dude built a powerhouse in GB, KC and now in DET. 

posted by Laley23

It really might be a Browns thing. That dude built a powerhouse in GB, KC and now in DET. 

He had a few solid picks in Baker (until his ego struck) and Chubb. Austin Corbett ended up being solid, after he was traded.

He drafter Ward also, right? He didnt really miss on the top picks. He struggled (if memory is correct) to identify unproven talent. But credit to him, he can spot great players.

Antonio Callaway and Chad Thomas.....uggggh

And yes, he drafted Ward when many thought it would be Bradley Chubb

posted by friendfromlowry

Can we have Myles Garrett if you guys are doing a fire sale 

Oh he’d go to the fucking Ravens