posted by superman

It also led to 9/11 and thousands of dead Americans.  Why are you neolibs always in favor of sending other people's kids to die? 

It was not our initial involvement that led to 9/11, it was our complete abandonment after 1991 of the Afghans. There, the Mujahideen were able to win the Civil War. 

The great book Ghost Wars goes into all of that. 

I'm leaving a softball over the plate here for a Biden criticism.....as in time will tell if our withdraw last year will have similar ramifications.

posted by ptown_trojans_1

It was not our initial involvement that led to 9/11, it was our complete abandonment after 1991 of the Afghans. There, the Mujahideen were able to win the Civil War. 

The great book Ghost Wars goes into all of that. 

Why won't you answer my question?  

posted by superman

Why won't you answer my question?  

It's neocons not neolibs that are in favor of direct military force. Also, funds are not sending direct Americans over. You are mixing a lot into a confusing mess. 

Direct military aid to Ukraine or the Afghans is not the same as sending kids to a foreign land. 

posted by ptown_trojans_1

It's neocons not neolibs that are in favor of direct military force. Also, funds are not sending direct Americans over. You are mixing a lot into a confusing mess. 

Direct military aid to Ukraine or the Afghans is not the same as sending kids to a foreign land. 

This logic makes more sense why the "pacifist" liberals went into hiding when Obama droned the middle east. 

So French media are claiming that Putin has a bodyguard that follows him around, collecting his shit, so nobody can get a read on the state of his health. 

You got a briefcase carrying nuke launch codes and another containing Putin's shit, what could go wrong?

On a serious note you have a war in Europe that in a little over 3 months will soon be approaching 100,000 dead.  Buckle up.

Funny how nobody cares anymore because our government is just going to let it happen.  Biden is compromised

posted by ptown_trojans_1

If the Russian losses are that high, even more than Afghanistan, there will be protests in the streets. Putin can't hide from that for long. 

The casualties in Afghanistan led to several reforms by Gorbachev. It eventually led to the fall of the Soviets. 

Credible estimates of Russian casualties (dead/wounded/captured) are now in the 70-80,000 range.  It's clear we are in a different time.  The Russian people are nearly all in.

The Nord Stream pipeline now the Kerch Bridge.  Direct confrontation is closing in.

Crazy how a major war is going on that we are spending tens of billions on and there is absolutely no footage of any of it.  Shocking since everyone has a camera nowa

posted by Fletch

Crazy how a major war is going on that we are spending tens of billions on and there is absolutely no footage of any of it.  Shocking since everyone has a camera nowa

You could always go over there with your Iphone and bring truth to knowledge...

Looks like a scene from Europe a little over a century ago.

REDDIT

With Western tanks soon to be pouring across the border into Ukraine the thin sheet of this "proxy" war gets ever thinner.

Still no footage of all this waring going on.  Seems like all of our excursions into the middle east was filmed and shown daily on the news.  Funny how I have yet to see anything from Ukraine. 

posted by Fletch

Still no footage of all this waring going on.  Seems like all of our excursions into the middle east was filmed and shown daily on the news.  Funny how I have yet to see anything from Ukraine. 

What is your point?

posted by Fletch

Still no footage of all this waring going on.  Seems like all of our excursions into the middle east was filmed and shown daily on the news.  Funny how I have yet to see anything from Ukraine. 

Anything? Must be blind, dude. I see stuff from there even though I don't spend any time actually looking for it.

posted by Fletch

Still no footage of all this waring going on.  Seems like all of our excursions into the middle east was filmed and shown daily on the news.  Funny how I have yet to see anything from Ukraine. 

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/

posted by Fletch

Still no footage of all this waring going on.  Seems like all of our excursions into the middle east was filmed and shown daily on the news.  Funny how I have yet to see anything from Ukraine. 

Bumping this back up.

Anyone else see the video of the "assassination drone" at the Kremlin? 

I really haven't been paying much attention. Can anyone who has summarize the current status?

Ukraine denies it, obviously.  A good bit of speculation that it was a false flag operation, or possibly a coup attempt.

Seems an awfully risky play for Ukraine to have done it.  Besides risking a nuclear attack, they'd risk losing the support of money and weapons from their allies.

It definitely looked suspect. Looks like there might have been two people walking up the dome when the drones were blown up. False flag seems likely.

Victory day parade tomorrow in Moscow.  Any story you read they mention the drone "attack" on the Kremlin.  More like the drone show.  It was a flash with no destructive power.  Whoever sent it the intent was not to destroy or kill.  I am not so sure about a false flag because the Russians have suffered quite a bit of embarrassment in this war.  A few months back amature drones were buzzing and sitting on Russian military aircraft.  Last week a Russian "unstoppable" hypersonic missile was downed by a US supplied patriot missile system.

posted by majorspark

Victory day parade tomorrow in Moscow.  Any story you read they mention the drone "attack" on the Kremlin.  More like the drone show.plied patriot missile system.

One explanation I heard was someone was attempting to knock the flag off the top of the building.  That makes sense.

Either way, that's a LITTLE more brave than jumping onto subway tracks to protest the death of crazy person threatening to kill people.  Though, perhaps not as dumb (I'm amazed no one electrocuted themselves on the 3rd rail).