Youngest son (22) been living in Chicago for a little over a year.  A lot of rumors and hysteria.  He does not want to be locked down in the city away from family.  His older brother is on his way to bring him back home to Ohio to hunker down with family.

It is safe to say that we have 2 examples of how this is going to go....China and Italy.

If we go the way of China, we are back to normal by May.  If we go the way of Italy.......you can kiss it goodbye till July 4th

posted by Spock

It is safe to say that we have 2 examples of how this is going to go....China and Italy.

 

If we go the way of China, we are back to normal by May.  If we go the way of Italy.......you can kiss it goodbye till July 4th

China has slowed the curve, but they certainly aren't out of the woods.  What's going to stop it from flaring up again when they open everything back up?  

Now I will agree that slowing the trend is crucial, at least until we have the vaccine ready.  But they're saying that could be 12-18 months away.

This whole thing is so fucking chaotic.  It's shit I never thought I'd see outside of the movie theater.  

posted by wildcats20

CNN is wrong. The judge ruled against. 

The uber liberal obama surrogate and abortion proponent who somehow slinked her way into becoming Ohio director of Health, Dr. Amy Acton, shut down the primaries last night.

posted by Automatik

I went to Trader Joe's today. I've just been making smaller trips to stock up.

They were limiting the amount of people in the door to control the crowd, I guess it was absolutely mobbed the past few days. It was a rather pleasant experience, out of a lot, but I got mostly what I went for.

Aside from fresh fruit and veggies and meat, I'm good for at least 3 weeks.

I live in an area that is likely 80% vacationers/weekenders and there is a grocery there that has still is pretty well stocked.

Did find a make shift gym that had bare essentials that I still got a good sweat on.

1920's had secret bars during prohibition.

2020's has secret gyms.......

posted by kizer permanente

China also shut shit down. We have people still galavanting around like its no big deal. 

China didn't shut shit down until it had already completely exploded. We started shutting shit down after just a few hundred cases in the US.

Italy went like China, and it blew up in their face.

We are not quite as "shut down" as S. Korea did. Crap, they had GPS phone apps that you could literally see, in real time, where everyone who was confirmed infected was currently located so that you could avoid them. They went that "big brother" on the situation. But we are closer to SK's reaction right now than China/Italy based on WHEN in the outbreak we are shutting things down.

We haven't seen our curve "flaten" yet, so the jury is still out if we really helped or not.

posted by jmog

China didn't shut shit down until it had already completely exploded. We started shutting shit down after just a few hundred cases in the US.

I don't know if China really has the travel/movement between cities that the US does, or even Italy.  So even though they were slow to react in Wuhan, it was still mostly contained to Wuhan when they did take stricter actions.

Anyway, I'm sure I'm not the only one in denial about how long this might go on.  Although I feel like once we stabilize, most business can carry on being smart about personal spacing and limiting meetings.  Public gatherings, though, and restaurant/bars and the like might be closed for a while.  And we may need curfews to limit house parties....

If the sun & warm weather don't have an impact, I think it's going to be touch & go for at least 6-8 months until a vaccine is available.  I know that's ridiculously optimistic, but I think it will happen.

Really sucks for people in the service industry. 

I have a ton of friends....servers, bartenders, hotel workers. They all either got canned completely or shifts severely cut.

If the cases keep increasing at this rate, NYC will have stricter guidelines like the Bay Area.

I almost wish I had been fired (and subsequently rehired). Would be making about the same off unemployment but not having to worry about meetings etc. But, need those benefits. 

PA is allowing those who have had hour cut/salaries cut to apply for unemployment. So, say your shifts are cut in half; you can apply for unemployment and they will grant it based on full salary, then slash it in half. My co-worker did it last night, then they gave him 25% (which is our pay cut). IL, as far as I can see, is only offering it for total job loss until said job reopens.

posted by Automatik

Really sucks for people in the service industry. 

I have a ton of friends....servers, bartenders, hotel workers. They all either got canned completely or shifts severely cut.

I've thought about this too. The small business loans don't mean much that they'll be available in the future when Restaurants and Bars can't pay the people for the current week. Like think about Augusta Georgia, which has nothing there besides hospitals and the Masters. They probably make over 20% of their revenue in that week or 2, and now they have no idea when it might be back.  

posted by QuakerOats

The uber liberal obama surrogate and abortion proponent who somehow slinked her way into becoming Ohio director of Health, Dr. Amy Acton, shut down the primaries last night.

 

You forgot to add the "on behalf of the Republican governor of the state who set the 'shut down the primaries' concept into motion" part in your zeal to continue being the blindly partisan dipshit that you seem to wind up being on every single fucking topic.

posted by Heretic

You forgot to add the "on behalf of the Republican governor of the state who set the 'shut down the primaries' concept into motion" part in your zeal to continue being the blindly partisan dipshit that you seem to wind up being on every single fucking topic.

Let's not forget that the Republican president appears to be treating it with a similar level of severity.

It’s pretty obvious who is running the show.  My comment had to do with providing color.

Take care.

Possible/confirmed case in Darke county of a 20yo kid just got back from Spring Break from Florida. Hopefully appropriate measures are being taken on him getting his ass kicked. 

Just got the call from my work that we will be alternating Wednesday shifts. We have 4 shifts, Sun-Wed AM(which I work) and PM and Wed-Sat AM and PM. So starting tomorrow my shifts gets to stay home and next week the other shifts stay home. 

posted by QuakerOats

 

 

It’s pretty obvious who is running the show.  My comment had to do with providing color.

 

Take care.

I doubt it. I think you were quite literal with your point. My dad shares a lot of you politics. He's spent the last three days railing about what an idiot DeWine is and how he's surrounded himself with crazy Obama liberals. But today his, and your, Dear Leader has commented that DeWine is going a great job and that he's a guy who "knows what he's doing".  He also said that if DeWine postponed the primary, then it was the right move. 

This must make you feel conflicted and scared. 

posted by friendfromlowry

Possible/confirmed case in Darke county of a 20yo kid just got back from Spring Break from Florida. Hopefully appropriate measures are being taken on him getting his ass kicked. 

If this shit is in Darke Co.  Ohio, its everywhere

https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/graphics/2020/03/10/us-coronavirus-map-tracking-united-states-outbreak/4945223002/

Good website to track the cases.  Obviously with an increase in testing, known cases are rising.  Except the spiking appears to be mostly contained to CA and NY, so far (thousands more cases being monitored in those states).  Washington seems like they've kind of gotten it under control.  But probably still too early to draw these conclusions.

And the global tracker:

https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2020/health/coronavirus-maps-and-cases/

I've been using this Johns Hopkins site to track things:

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

posted by Spock

If this shit is in Darke Co.  Ohio, its everywhere

Well, that's sort of the definition of a pandemic.

But I wouldn't correlate that with a high level of unknown or undiagnosed cases.  "Shit, if Tom Hanks has it then everyone probably does".  Except there are literally thousands of celebrities and athletes that could have been, and the handful of cases among that group is sort of the randomness you expect in the early stages of a spreading pandemic.  Tom Hanks and a few NBA players getting it doesn't mean even 1 in 100 people have it.   Based on current cases in the US, we're approaching 1 in 500 people have.  I don't think that's out-of-line with "notable" cases that have been reported.

Japanese man (in his 70's) who tested positive, who was on the Diamond Princess cruise in February, was confirmed negative in early March, caught it a second time upon returning home to Japan.

posted by BR1986FB

Japanese man (in his 70's) who tested positive, who was on the Diamond Princess cruise in February, was confirmed negative in early March, caught it a second time upon returning home to Japan.

posted by BR1986FB

Japanese man (in his 70's) who tested positive, who was on the Diamond Princess cruise in February, was confirmed negative in early March, caught it a second time upon returning home to Japan.

That is not good.....no immunity?  Means vaccine wont do shit

posted by gut

Well, that's sort of the definition of a pandemic.

But I wouldn't correlate that with a high level of unknown or undiagnosed cases.  "Shit, if Tom Hanks has it then everyone probably does".  Except there are literally thousands of celebrities and athletes that could have been, and the handful of cases among that group is sort of the randomness you expect in the early stages of a spreading pandemic.  Tom Hanks and a few NBA players getting it doesn't mean even 1 in 100 people have it.   Based on current cases in the US, we're approaching 1 in 500 people have.  I don't think that's out-of-line with "notable" cases that have been reported.

I was thinking that this is a rich persons disease.  It likely started because some rich Chinese guy needs to eat snake penis or bat testicles.  The virus went around in the rich circles and jet setters.  THats why it spread so fast, aslo celebs and pro athletes are more prone to being around international people.  Why do you think WV seems to be immune to it?