posted by ptown_trojans_1

I do know good friends that are freaking out right now because of all the laws that are getting passed. 

They’re freaking out that they can’t mutilate/ harm children? What laws affect these adults? Leave the children alone.

Let me guess, you and your friends also support males playing in female sports leagues?

An adult biological male celebrating a year of “girlhood” and acting like a teenage girl is weird. You transitioned? Fine. But you’re a “woman” so act like the adult you are. This should not be normalized or celebrated. And it certainly shouldn’t be pushed on children. 

How about the dude from Mr Beast who just transitioned? A look back thru their twitter history and you see several pedophile “jokes” which is, you know, pretty gross. And the fact that Mr Beast has such a large following of kids makes it even worse.

posted by iclfan2

They’re freaking out that they can’t mutilate/ harm children? What laws affect these adults? Leave the children alone.

Let me guess, you and your friends also support males playing in female sports leagues?

Not sure if it was discussed already, I’ve been avoiding these threads for a while. 

Have we all seen the Riley Gaines incident at SFSU? She was assaulted and essentially held hostage by TRAs for a few hours and then the university apologized to and applauded the TRAs for their bravery. And then someone involved with their athletic department said something about how it’s a misconception that men have a physical advantage over women in sports. 

I’m going off memory here so please correct me if I am wrong. 

posted by like_that

I do, and he (man pretending to be a woman) is now bat shit crazy.  Zero chance we would be able to have a "conversation" as you suggest (although you are most likely suggesting we just shut up and listen), because he would become immediately unhinged.  I hope he finds the help he needs considering the high suicide and self-harm rate these people have and I hope he isn't in the position to raise any children.   This is classic ptown though for any social discussion.  It's his boiler plate template coming in to act like the intellectual on every social discussion with "curious, have any of you all ever xxxx?"  Somehow ptown ALWAYS has the experience with any of the group of people being discussed, whether he knows one person or a group of them.  He also apparently spends the majority of his time having profound and in depth conversations with these people, so he can enlighten us on why we are wrong.

It's almost as if ptown is full of shit, or even worse he goes out of his way to collect anecdotal moments/people to drop in conversations like this one only to argue your opinion is not credible.  It's no different than the "I have black friends" card that most liberals get butt hurt over.  

Unfortunately, what moderate ptown does pretty much sums up every white male/female liberal has done since 2008.  It has evolved from telling people "i voted for obama" to "I know transgenders."  

Seems like he was just wondering if you haven’t ever even spoken with one, then what are you basing your expert opinion on? (Not you personally but in general). Conjecture? Twitter? Tucker? Like seriously I’m don’t know the answer either but I know enough to know that I don’t know. I’ll trust doctors makes the most sense to me. Statistically it’s such a small portion of the population that unless you go to a gay bar or certain areas you could go you whole life and not run into a trans person. Calm the fuck down they aren’t out to harm children. I don’t think anyone would choose to have a child in that situation or even be in that situation. There are plenty of groups that actually molest children and just by a numbers game it’s not close if saving children is the actual goal.  Bottom line it doesn’t affect your life . We also have bigger issues the govt should be focused on imo 

posted by iclfan2

They’re freaking out that they can’t mutilate/ harm children? What laws affect these adults? Leave the children alone.

Let me guess, you and your friends also support males playing in female sports leagues?

We are in year 3 since trump has been booted out of office, and people like Ptown and his anecdotal “friends” are pretending that white conservatives are going to round up specific people (transgenders in this case) and send them to re-education camps.

I am curious as to which law(s) actually don’t allow transgenders to live their independent lives.

posted by justincredible

An adult biological male celebrating a year of “girlhood” and acting like a teenage girl is weird. You transitioned? Fine. But you’re a “woman” so act like the adult you are. This should not be normalized or celebrated. And it certainly shouldn’t be pushed on children. 

How about the dude from Mr Beast who just transitioned? A look back thru their twitter history and you see several pedophile “jokes” which is, you know, pretty gross. And the fact that Mr Beast has such a large following of kids makes it even worse.

This, and it’s ok to say it’s weird.  There are plenty of other weirdos in the world living their own lives.

The problem is the majority of the population thought they were weird, but didn’t care, because it never affected them.  We minded our own business.  All of a sudden now it’s being shoved down our throats and trying to be shoved down childrens’ throats. Gtfo. 

This made me laugh. 

I’ll buy a pink AR-15, idgaf. 

I mean, they already try to body shame us for having small penises so why would we care if they called us gay?

posted by like_that

All of a sudden now it’s being shoved down our throats and trying to be shoved down childrens’ throats. Gtfo.

posted by justincredible

I mean, they already try to body shame us for having small penises so why would we care if they called us gay?

Its hilarious they don’t see the irony in these insults.

posted by gut
I think that's the issue a lot of people have.  We've gone from tolerance/acceptance to being FORCED to acknowledge and support/enable.  People generally don't take well to being told what to think and how to act, especially when they are shamed/fired/doxxed for the high crime of daring to disagree with an activist.

It 100% is the issue. Nobody gave a fuck about them, and now as you stated we are being shamed for not agreeing with them in those “conversations” ptown talks about. Btw, most of the  left doesn’t give a fuck about them either.  They have just found a way to milk them for money and rally their base.

Since ptown and gblock love their anecdotal experiences, I will take it a step further. I have plenty of gay friends and all of them are quietly unsupportive of transgenders.  They are just afraid to say it, because they feel they will be black listed from the lgbtq community.  

posted by like_that

They are just afraid to say it, because they feel they will be black listed from the lgbtq community.  

Chapelle had it correct. The LGB’s should have never sided with the T’s and any other letters after. But now they’re stuck and don’t know how to quit it. Funny how the slippery slope argument about gay marriage came true. Next comes Pedos and Maps. 

And yes, no one gave a fuck about trans and drag shows until they started doing it in front of children and adding erotic books to middle school libraries. They brought this backlash upon themselves, and instead of apologizing or minimizing it they try to tell you it’s normal. 

posted by iclfan2

 They brought this backlash upon themselves, and instead of apologizing or minimizing it they try to tell you it’s normal. 

"I don't know if drag shows are appropriate for 3rd graders"

"homophobe"

Or like if I don't put my pronouns on a nametag, then I'm passive aggressively harassing transgender people.  So what do you do?  You put your damn pronouns on the nametag so you don't get fired.

posted by gut

"I don't know if drag shows are appropriate for 3rd graders"

"homophobe"

Or like if I don't put my pronouns on a nametag, then I'm passive aggressively harassing transgender people.  So what do you do?  You put your damn pronouns on the nametag so you don't get fired.

There is no scenario where I put my pronouns on anything, be it a name tag, email signature, zoom name, etc. 

posted by gut

"I don't know if drag shows are appropriate for 3rd graders"

"homophobe"

Or like if I don't put my pronouns on a nametag, then I'm passive aggressively harassing transgender people.  So what do you do?  You put your damn pronouns on the nametag so you don't get fired.

Nah, I will never be doing that. 

posted by geeblock

This is what people say to minimize someone’s opinions and completely not true. 

Ok hypocrit, you can never call me out for being demeaning on OC again after your earlier comment.

posted by ptown_trojans_1

I think I have asked this before, but no one really answered or dismissed it.

Does anyone on here actually know or interact with anyone that is Trans? 

Yes, about every weekend at our campground. My sisters best friend’s wife.

posted by ptown_trojans_1

See that's where if you had, you may change some of that view. 

No, I hang out with one 3-4 times a month while camping and my views are no different.

Matter of fact she DEFINITELY gives evidence to the point that it should still be classified as a mental disease and not just a disorder.

posted by ptown_trojans_1

Have you talked to them about all of these topics and got their own experience or thoughts? 

Also, do you consider them a person or someone that is like what is posted by people on here? 

Don’t be a moron. No one has said they aren’t people.

Worst is that people are saying they have a mental disease and hope they get help, they shouldn’t mutilate children, and men shouldn’t be able to play women’s sports.

posted by ptown_trojans_1

Well, from my experience, a lot of your views, what you post is either wrong, or uneducated. But, you wouldn't know because you refuse to even accept or acknowledge them. 

1. His posts is far more on point and educated than anything you have posted on the subject. Up until political pressures changed transgender diagnosis in DSM 5, it was classified under the exact same mental disorders as he described exactly.  So what he said is actually backed up by science, which only changed like a couple years ago.

2. Again, don’t be a moron. No one is not “acknowledging” them. That’s like saying we don’t acknowledge people with ADHD or Autism when we say we hope they get the help they need. Don’t be stupid.

posted by ptown_trojans_1

Good for you. Hey man, I don't apologize for my own life experiences and who I have as friends and colleagues. I do know good friends that are freaking out right now because of all the laws that are getting passed. 

So your friends want to mutilate children or are ok with men taking women’s spots in sports?

Sounds like your friends are terrible human beings, you may want to find better ones.

posted by justincredible

I’ll buy a pink AR-15, idgaf. 

My dad just bought a pink rifle as my granddaughter is due in August. My dad said he had to buy her her first gun.

It’s not an AR, just a child size pink .22 rifle.

She will need a pink AR at some point though.

posted by like_that

It 100% is the issue. Nobody gave a fuck about them, and now as you stated we are being shamed for not agreeing with them in those “conversations” ptown talks about. Btw, most of the  left doesn’t give a fuck about them either.  They have just found a way to milk them for money and rally their base.

Since ptown and gblock love their anecdotal experiences, I will take it a step further. I have plenty of gay friends and all of them are quietly unsupportive of transgenders.  They are just afraid to say it, because they feel they will be black listed from the lgbtq community.  

Agreed, my sister is a lesbian and she can’t stand this transgender movement. She grew up playing all sports (was good enough to play college softball hut didn’t want to go to college). 

She is pissed about men playing women’s sports.

But she doesn’t say anything outside of our family because some of her LFTBQ friends would freak the F out.