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Mar 30, 2010 10:03 PM
Realize Wilt averaged 50 and cracked like 4,000 points or some ridiculous shit.. but...

2005-06 NBA Kobe Bryant 2832 LAL

Did Jordan ever approach 2,832? It's gotta be Top 5 in the modern era.
Mar 30, 2010 10:03pm
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Mar 30, 2010 10:04 PM
I don't really get where you're going with this anyways...are you trying to show me that Jordan scored more points than the guys winning it now? I don't get it...
Mar 30, 2010 10:04pm
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Mar 30, 2010 10:04 PM
Sage wrote: Realize Wilt averaged 50 and cracked like 4,000 points or some ridiculous shit.. but...

2005-06 NBA Kobe Bryant 2832 LAL

Did Jordan ever approach 2,832? It's gotta be Top 5 in the modern era.
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Mar 30, 2010 10:05 PM
Sage wrote: Realize Wilt averaged 50 and cracked like 4,000 points or some ridiculous shit.. but...

2005-06 NBA Kobe Bryant 2832 LAL

Did Jordan ever approach 2,832? It's gotta be Top 5 in the modern era.
Yes Jordan is only the 2nd player in league history to score over 3,000.
Mar 30, 2010 10:05pm
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Mar 30, 2010 10:05 PM
top 10

1. Wilt Chamberlain* 4029 1961-62 PHW
2. Wilt Chamberlain* 3586 1962-63 SFW
3. Michael Jordan* 3041 1986-87 CHI
4. Wilt Chamberlain* 3033 1960-61 PHW
5. Wilt Chamberlain* 2948 1963-64 SFW
6. Michael Jordan* 2868 1987-88 CHI
7. Kobe Bryant 2832 2005-06 LAL
8. Bob McAdoo* 2831 1974-75 BUF
9. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* 2822 1971-72 MIL
10. Rick Barry* 2775 1966-67
Mar 30, 2010 10:05pm
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Mar 30, 2010 10:07 PM
SQ_Crazies wrote: I don't really get where you're going with this anyways...are you trying to show me that Jordan scored more points than the guys winning it now? I don't get it...
well actually i was going to post the top 5 scores from each year between 90-99 and 00-09 and show u that there wasn't a big difference but when i copy and paste it messes up
Mar 30, 2010 10:07pm
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Mar 30, 2010 10:09 PM
Kobe attempted 27 shots a game in the year he made that list.

Jordan was 27 a game too for 3,041.
Mar 30, 2010 10:09pm
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Mar 30, 2010 10:09 PM
Just post the players, you'll prove my point.
Mar 30, 2010 10:09pm
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Mar 30, 2010 10:10 PM
Michael Jordan was fucking good.
Mar 30, 2010 10:10pm
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Mar 30, 2010 10:13 PM
Who the fuck would use total points for ranking scorers? If a guy is scoring 30 ppg and gets hurt and only plays 60 games (1,800 total points), he is a better scorer than the guy who plays 80 games and scores 24 ppg (1,920 total points). The scoring title goes to the player with the highest scoring average, which is how it should be. I've never in my life looked at a list of total points scored in a season.
Mar 30, 2010 10:13pm
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Mar 30, 2010 10:18 PM
Sage wrote: Michael Jordan was fucking good.
Understatement of the year.
Mar 30, 2010 10:18pm
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Mar 30, 2010 10:21 PM
Cleveland Buck wrote: Who the fuck would use total points for ranking scorers? If a guy is scoring 30 ppg and gets hurt and only plays 60 games (1,800 total points), he is a better scorer than the guy who plays 80 games and scores 24 ppg (1,920 total points). The scoring title goes to the player with the highest scoring average, which is how it should be. I've never in my life looked at a list of total points scored in a season.
Exactly. Kareem is #1 on total points, which is a great record to have regardless of what I'm about to say, taking nothing away from him--but he's 14th all time in PPG which is why I don't think he's even close to the best scorer in league history. He just played forever.
Mar 30, 2010 10:21pm
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Cleveland Buck wrote: Who the fuck would use total points for ranking scorers? If a guy is scoring 30 ppg and gets hurt and only plays 60 games (1,800 total points), he is a better scorer than the guy who plays 80 games and scores 24 ppg (1,920 total points). The scoring title goes to the player with the highest scoring average, which is how it should be. I've never in my life looked at a list of total points scored in a season.
Agreed. It's PPG.

Like I said in my original post, the guys I named are in the NBA because of Jordan (not directly of course, I wouldn't be insane enough to say that Jordan's the only reason), but the guys today have more talent than those in the 90's.

I google'd best NBA players of the 90's and found a list of the top 10. In that list, I only saw two pure scorers who I thought would also light it up today, Jordan and Reggie Miller. Outside of those two, the other players were big men and John Stockton, who I'd say is on par with Steve Nash if compared to today's game.

The 90's was relatively talent dry compared to today, especially when you look at all the people who were drafted high who barely lasted in the league. If you can't accept that the guys today are more talented, then, well I don't know what to say.
Mar 30, 2010 10:24pm
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Mar 30, 2010 10:27 PM
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Cleveland Buck wrote: Who the fuck would use total points for ranking scorers? If a guy is scoring 30 ppg and gets hurt and only plays 60 games (1,800 total points), he is a better scorer than the guy who plays 80 games and scores 24 ppg (1,920 total points). The scoring title goes to the player with the highest scoring average, which is how it should be. I've never in my life looked at a list of total points scored in a season.
Agreed. It's PPG.

Like I said in my original post, the guys I named are in the NBA because of Jordan (not directly of course, I wouldn't be insane enough to say that Jordan's the only reason), but the guys today have more talent than those in the 90's.

I google'd best NBA players of the 90's and found a list of the top 10. In that list, I only saw two pure scorers who I thought would also light it up today, Jordan and Reggie Miller. Outside of those two, the other players were big men and John Stockton, who I'd say is on par with Steve Nash if compared to today's game.

The 90's was relatively talent dry compared to today, especially when you look at all the people who were drafted high who barely lasted in the league. If you can't accept that the guys today are more talented, then, well I don't know what to say.
The guys on the outside are more talented today the guys on the inside were more talented in the 90's
Mar 30, 2010 10:27pm
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Mar 30, 2010 10:29 PM
Karl Malone was a great scorer.

But like I said, I'm talking about the depth--there were other players in the 90's that were damn good--some of the best ever in a few cases, but the league is much deeper now. I don't know why people have a problem with that, I mean it's true. Some people don't want to admit things like this because they were big fans in the 90's or whatever--but comparisons like this are always taken the wrong way. It's not a slam on the 90's it's more of a tribute to how basketball in the 90's effected the players of today. And Jordan was a one man show, that's who they all grew up wanting to be.
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The guys on the outside are more talented today the guys on the inside were more talented in the 90's
Hmmm..disagree with this.
Mar 30, 2010 10:30pm
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Mar 30, 2010 10:30 PM
lol.......I just hope and pray that all the people on here (pro LeBron or not) just simply appreciate what he does nearly every single night. This is a pro sports forum and hopefully 100% of the people on here love sports. What other athlete just simply makes you shake your head in disbelief of what he just did?

22 years ago Magic was far and away my favorite player...and Bird was far and away my least favorite.......but I also knew that Bird was unbelievable and some of the things he did.....whoa! At the same time some young kid named Jordan couldn't win against those teams...but you would just shake your head in disbelief of what he was doing.

I don't really have a favortie team in the NBA....I mainly root for certain players......but LeBron just about wears out my rewind and slow motion buttons on my DISH remote. To me LeBron is kinda like Bo Jackson in football...except we are getting to see LeBron's peak.

I LOVE the athletes that just so often do things you've never seen before....and by far LeBron is the top of that list right now.

I'm not real sure I could honestly argue agaisnt Kobe or LeBron.....two of the greatest ever when it's all said and done.


Willie Mays or Hank Aaron.......uh yes.

Joe Montana or John Elway....uh both please.
Mar 30, 2010 10:30pm
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Mar 30, 2010 10:32 PM
SQ_Crazies wrote:
2quik4u wrote:
The guys on the outside are more talented today the guys on the inside were more talented in the 90's
Hmmm..disagree with this.
your crazy that was the big man era
Mar 30, 2010 10:32pm
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Mar 30, 2010 10:33 PM
Ironman92 wrote:
I'm not real sure I could honestly argue agaisnt Kobe or LeBron.....two of the greatest ever when it's all said and done.


Willie Mays or Hank Aaron.......uh yes.

Joe Montana or John Elway....uh both please.
This.

And I believe both sides have felt this way the entire time, we've just had some with it. You know it's bound to be heated while they're still active players. But it's not even an argument anymore anyways. ;)
Mar 30, 2010 10:33pm
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Mar 30, 2010 10:46 PM
SQ_Crazies wrote:
2quik4u wrote:
The guys on the outside are more talented today the guys on the inside were more talented in the 90's
Hmmm..disagree with this.
I actually completely agree with this. Post play today is pretty much pathetic.
Mar 30, 2010 10:46pm
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Mar 30, 2010 10:55 PM
2quik4u wrote:
SQ_Crazies wrote:
2quik4u wrote:
The guys on the outside are more talented today the guys on the inside were more talented in the 90's
Hmmm..disagree with this.
your crazy that was the big man era
Oh there were some great ones, but there are some great ones right now.

The players today are a lot different than they were in the 90's too--so it's hard to compare.

But I mean, here is a list of both off the top of my head:

90's:
Shaq--most physically dominant player ever.
Olajuwon--all time great.
Karl Malone--all time great.
Pat Ewing--good player but overrated.
David Robinson--same as Ewing.
Charles Barkley--same as above.
Mutombo--good player, can't say he's overrated.
Alonzo Mourning-- same as Mutombo.

Good list--now this decade...

2000's:
Shaq
Tim Duncan
Dwight Howard
Kevin Garnett
Chris Bosh
Dirk Nowitzki
Amare Stoudemire
Pau Gasol

There are some other good young guys who are starting to have really nice careers:
Chris Kaman
Andrew Bogut
Andrew Bynum

Jury is still out on Greg Oden but he looks good when he's healthy--so if he can get there maybe he can join the list. A LOT of people including some of the all time greats labelled him as the next great one.

Not saying I think this decade was any better--I actually think it's a pretty even.
Mar 30, 2010 10:55pm
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Mar 30, 2010 11:19 PM
Two that you missed
Chris Webber
Shawn Kemp


Could say these guys are good or better then the 3 you named

Rik Smits
Christian Laettner- good until he got hurt
Cliff Robinson
Dennis Rodman
Mar 30, 2010 11:19pm
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Mar 30, 2010 11:20 PM
I respectfully disagree.
Mar 30, 2010 11:20pm
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Mar 30, 2010 11:20 PM
Please explain to me how Ewing, Barkley and Robinson are overrated?
Mar 30, 2010 11:20pm
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Mar 30, 2010 11:41 PM
I'd have to go with the 90's big men. I like their defense more. The 00's aren't too shabby either though.
Mar 30, 2010 11:41pm