ytownfootball wrote: He's played well of late, and he's affordable. I like his ability to fit with this team but I see him as a piece able to be dealt. Much like Z though I'd hate to see him go, maybe Jackson has some value .

Jackson will be gone to make room for Z when he returns in a couple weeks.

Yeah, I know. Williams then and a third rounder.

Oh LBJ and CP3--what a dream that would be. And to whoever said they'd rather get a superstar big than Paul, IMO, Paul is twice as good as a superstar big. With LeBron AND CP3, it wouldn't matter who the big men are. Who is Luc Longley? Exactly.

snuggie night lol

SQ_Crazies wrote: Oh LBJ and CP3--what a dream that would be. And to whoever said they'd rather get a superstar big than Paul, IMO, Paul is twice as good as a superstar big. With LeBron AND CP3, it wouldn't matter who the big men are. Who is Luc Longley? Exactly.

Eh...don't need a superstar big, def need a warm body with Shaq and Z being question marks though.

CP3, LeBron, JJ, Andy. Fill in the rest of the roster with the caliber players that would probably be there--those 4 right there have you as champ favorites for as long as they're together. IMO, heavier favorites than Mo, LeBron, Bosh and Andy. And no, I'm not pulling a FootWedge and saying that JJ is better than Bosh.

dazedconfused wrote: snuggie night lol

The market for Cavs tix is way up, but I read uppers were going for $100 per....all b/c of snuggie night?

Really? A blanket with sleeves. It's one of the more useful promotions I guess. Would be cool if they did their intros in snuggies or something.

I'm guessing not, but it would get a chuckle.

It's going to look hilarious when they show the crowd before the game--they're trying to set a record for the most blanketed people in one room or something. For real, they have the world record people there.

No doubt, I can't wait to see the crowd wearin' their snuggies!

Are they Cav snuggies or some generic horseshit?

Cuz...you know...a Cav snuggie = GOAT

devil1197 wrote:

ytownfootball wrote: Was there anything noting why West was not dressed last game that you heard? I could find nothing that amounted to anything specific.

No, Cleveland has said they will do this from time to time with West to give him a break.

They didn't need him agains the Nets and now he'll be ready to go for the back to back.

This is odd to say the least. Needs a break, we all need breaks from time to time but not sure I understand this one.

ytownfootball wrote: Are they Cav snuggies or some generic horseshit?

Cuz...you know...a Cav snuggie = GOAT

The advertisements show Andy in a "CAVS" snuggie. Burgandy or maroon with the Cavaliers emblem. (basically cavalier red or whatever that color is)

LoL...that's going to be a damn circus, can't wait.

SQ_Crazies wrote:
And no, I'm not pulling a FootWedge and saying that JJ is better than Bosh.

Moronic comment Square. Really.

Personally, I think Bosh would be a better addition/fit than CP3.

Bosh puts up the numbers...Jamison doesn't. It's really that simple.

What's moronic is you calling me square, lol.

I never said that how you would feel about Bosh/CP3--just assumed that you might say Hickson is better than Bosh, you made your own reputation.

And I'm definitely standing by my position on CP3/LeBron vs. Bosh/LeBron. IMO, it's no contest.

If you get CP3, that means the end to Mo Williams practically. You still lack a decent SG. I like Parker's intangibles but he isn't a starting SG. I've been disappointed in Mo this year.

Mo has done very good in the big games this year, but his injury halted him a bit.

He's still had big games in the 4th/ot to close out games for us.. I'm not worried about Mo anymore.

It doesn't matter. This is how I see it:

Chris Paul
LeBron James
JJ Hickson
Anderson Varejao

After that you fill in the roster however you need to. Get a decent big body to fill in for Andy at center when hes in foul trouble--because I don't know about you but IMO, Andy is good enough to play center in this league. And even if he does give up something on the defensive end against guys like Howard, he'd make up for it on the offensive end. Hickson is only going to get better. Add CP3 and that just makes the bigs jobs that much easier--with CP3 and LeBron, they'd have a field day in the paint. LeBron can play off the ball more, he'd still dish out 6-7 assists a night. CP3 doesn't have to beat himself up to score, can facilitate--still get you 15-18 PPG, but his assist numbers would be through the roof playing with those 3 other guys. If he's not beating himself up on offense as much then he becomes that much more dangerous defensively. Andy's a good defender, Hickson has his moments (but his upside looks really good right now), LeBron and CP3 are two of the top 5 defenders in the league. Rebounding isn't a problem when you have two perimeter guys who could go off for a triple-double any given night plus your highly active bigs.

I mean really, I'm not even talking about the rest of the roster--if you filled the rest of the roster up with role players like they have now, that's a championship team every year they're together. That core would be unstoppable--they're all built to play together. Imagine them running the floor. They could play a half court game easy--there could be so much movement and you have so many great passers.

Give me CP3 and JJ to run along side LeBron over Mo and Bosh any day of the week.

With the style of ball we play right now, Bosh suits us much better--but you have to also assume that we'd play a different style if we had CP3. Offensively anyways. Defense wouldn't change, expect that I think that we may actually be better defensively with Paul.

SQ_Crazies wrote:

I never said that how you would feel about Bosh/CP3--just assumed that you might say Hickson is better than Bosh, you made your own reputation.

And that's exactly why your statement is moronic. My reputation? My reputation is just fine. Most Cav fans think Andy is better than Jamison. If if they don't, then they are the ones that are ignorant.

Remember...the ball don't lie...and the stats don't lie.

And I'm definitely standing by my position on CP3/LeBron vs. Bosh/LeBron. IMO, it's no contest.

That's cool bro...a very good subject for debate...unlike the Jamison/Verajou comparison..... which is a slam dunk.

Both CP3 and Bosh are tremendous players....Jamison is below average.

I totally agree that Andy is better. You said he was better than Hickson--which right now is not true.

Saying things like Jamison is below average is moronic. Think about what you're saying....below average...

Footwedge wrote:

SQ_Crazies wrote:

I never said that how you would feel about Bosh/CP3--just assumed that you might say Hickson is better than Bosh, you made your own reputation.

And that's exactly why your statement is moronic. My reputation? My reputation is just fine. Most Cav fans think Andy is better than Jamison. If if they don't, then they are the ones that are ignorant.

Remember...the ball don't lie...and the stats don't lie.

And I'm definitely standing by my position on CP3/LeBron vs. Bosh/LeBron. IMO, it's no contest.

That's cool bro...a very good subject for debate...unlike the Jamison/Verajou comparison..... which is a slam dunk.

Both CP3 and Bosh are tremendous players....Jamison is below average.

No they don't.

smh....smh...

You're right, that stats don't lie.

And actually I don't agree that Andy is the better player. But playing along side LeBron, Andy is better than Jamison.

So anyway, snuggie day at the Q.

Should be exciting to see the Cavs stay undefeated with 'Tawn in the starting lineup.

SQ_Crazies wrote: I totally agree that Andy is better. You said he was better than Hickson--which right now is not true.

Saying things like Jamison is below average is moronic. Think about what you're saying....below average...

I said who was better than Hickson? Hickson is more productive than Jamison RIGHT NOW.

The stats don't lie and the ball don't lie. Hickson scores more per minute, grabs more boards per minute, has a higher FT percentage, and has a much higher shooting percentage.

On top of that, Hickson has improved defensively, and as a result, is subjectively speaking, a better defender.

It's a shame that Anderson and JJ will be play less minutes because of Jamison.