If this was such a crazy thing for me to suggest..................Why did the in game announcers for CBS also suggest this COULD cost them a #1 seed?

Honestly?

You will find more knowledgeable people on here who follow college basketball closer than many announcers. Maybe they said it to get people talking about it?

Like someone else said, crunch the numbers and come back if you feel UK isn't a #1 seed. There is still only 1 team in the nation, maybe 2, with a better resume.

Now if UK loses 2 more games, or even 1 more on Friday of the SEC Tourney, the thought might be considered, but not after today's loss. It's not like Tennessee sucks.

BTW September, I don't mean to sound like a jerk and I don't think the others do either. Just one of those things that the media says to get people talking. It's pretty obvious this loss doesn't put UK's #1 seed in jeopardy, just as a Kansas loss at OSU today won't put theirs in jeopardy. Both are still heavy favorites to win out and win their conference tourney. If they do that, and even with 1 more loss, a #1 seed is a near loss. You have to figure almost everyone in the country is going to lose at least another game in the next 15 days.

Tennessee who has 7 losses, has beat the #1 and #2 teams on their home court. Whats the chances of that happening again?

If kansas wins today, they stay at #1. If #3 Purdue wins tomorrow vs Mich State and #4 Syracuse beats Nova tonight. Where is UK ranked next week? #5 id have to guess!! (Hence, not a #1 seed)

september63 wrote: If kansas wins today, they stay at #1. If #3 Purdue wins tomorrow vs Mich State and #4 Syracuse beats Nova tonight. Where is UK ranked next week? #5 id have to guess!! (Hence, not a #1 seed)

Rankings don't dictate seedings. There is a lot to look at. Right now, UK is a #1. If they lose in SEC and other things fall against them, they could go to #2...but very doubtful.

You trying to tell me that the #1 seeds wouldnt go to the #1-4 at seasons end? Im not buying that arguement. Im just saying, there is a decent chance UK is ranked #5 in the new polls next week.

september63 wrote: You trying to tell me that the #1 seeds wouldnt go to the #1-4 at seasons end? Im not buying that arguement. Im just saying, there is a decent chance UK is ranked #5 in the new polls next week.

Yep, just tell that to Dan Dickau and #2 ranked Gonzaga. They were THRILLED with their #5 seed in the tourney....

Rankings have nothing to do with seeding. Like I said, 95% of teams are going to lose AGAIN before the NCAA Tournament. Only Kansas and Syracuse have better resumes than UK right now. UK will NOT drop out of the top 5, in fact, I bet they are 4th on Monday, and justifiably so if Purdue, Syracuse and Kansas win. With that said, UK's resume is still better than Purdue's, or at least comparable.

I was just going to bring the Dickau argument up. You beat me to it, Laley.

Kentucky could lose one more regular season game and still be a lock as long as the Cats take care of business in the SEC Tournament. Or, Kentucky could win out the regular season and lose in the semis or finals of its conference tournament and still be a one seed. To make a short story even shorter: Kentucky will really have to fuck up not to be a one seed. Pardon the language, but that's basically it in a nutshell.

Az,

It looks like KU is going down today [tapping on oak, as I'm sure the Jayhawks will make a big run late in the second half.] If Syracuse wins tonight and Purdue and Duke tomorrow, it will probably be 1. Syracuse, 2. Purdue, 3. Kansas, 4. Duke, 5. Kentucky.

Is Duke a more talented team than Kentucky and deserve to be rated higher? Probably not. Kentucky is better than Duke. But I think UK will drop one more spot than it probably should based on the tip toeing around defeat the Cats have done in recent games, with it finally catching up to them in Knoxville.

If Purdue and Syracuse should both lose and Duke wins, I see KU remaining at No. 1, Duke at 2, UK at 3, Syracuse at 4 and K-State at 5 (if they beat Mizzou). Although, with the way KU has been getting throttled today, things may get interesting.

What do you see?

It should be noted that rankings mean virtually nothing, but they are fun to talk about.

Azubuike24 wrote: Rankings have nothing to do with seeding. Like I said, 95% of teams are going to lose AGAIN before the NCAA Tournament. Only Kansas and Syracuse have better resumes than UK right now. UK will NOT drop out of the top 5, in fact, I bet they are 4th on Monday, and justifiably so if Purdue, Syracuse and Kansas win. With that said, UK's resume is still better than Purdue's, or at least comparable.

UK better resume then Purdue? Purdue has beaten top 10 OSU, at OSU. They beat MSU, @ MSU. Those two games alone, trump ANY UK win to date. Purdue also beat Tenn when they were at full strength(Smith). Add in Wisky, that is 4 top 20 wins for Purdue. UK top two wins are against Vandy and Tenn, which happen to be the only two ranked teams they beat currently. Two teams in the 15-20 range. On top of that, the SEC is not near what the Big Ten is.
Now I am not argueing who is better or who deserves a #1 seed. But UK resume is NOT better then Purdue.
If Purdue happens to beat MSU, go on to win big ten..wins a couple games at least in Big Ten tourney.....even the loss of Hummel won't stop them from some serious consideration for a top 4 seed.
Sorry, no way does UK have a better resume. UK has the worst resume of any top of the top teams fighting for a top 4 seed IMO.

Nice to see Kentucky fall being I do not care for the coach.

IMO, and I emphasize IMO, it takes 2 more losses for there to even be a possibility of Kentucky (and Kansas) missing out on a 1 seed.

reclegend22 wrote: Az,
If Syracuse wins tonight and Purdue and Duke tomorrow, it will probably be 1. Syracuse, 2. Purdue, 3. Kansas, 4. Duke, 5. Kentucky.



What do you see?

I see that you are clueless. How would a 4 loss Duke jump a 2 loss Kentucky? If the voters go by one game during one week of basketball to judge who should be ranked higher, then they are clueless with ya. This poll should go by the season, not one day/game.

These rankings are meaningless we all know. This time of year though, its not how many losses you have, but when you last lost.

cats gone wild wrote:

reclegend22 wrote: Az,
If Syracuse wins tonight and Purdue and Duke tomorrow, it will probably be 1. Syracuse, 2. Purdue, 3. Kansas, 4. Duke, 5. Kentucky.



What do you see?

I see that you are clueless. How would a 4 loss Duke jump a 2 loss Kentucky? If the voters go by one game during one week of basketball to judge who should be ranked higher, then they are clueless with ya. This poll should go by the season, not one day/game.

Check Post #30 in this thread.

Cats,

First off, you clearly overreacted to my post. Please don't tell me you suffer from that Duke inferiority complex, too? It wouldn't be uncommon, though.

Secondly, as slingshot said, the top 25 rankings are singularly based on the now. What have you done for me lately. Duke is the number five team in the nation, with as strong as a resume on paper as any team in the country, and has been on a hot streak of late. Kentucky, on the other hand, despite only two losses on the season, has looked a little shaky recently (albeit still winning) and it finally caught up to the Cats today. Everyone's allowed to lose a few times a season. It happens. It's almost guaranteed. But when it comes to top 25 rankings, one loss at the right time can mean dropping in the rankings. Duke very well could be placed ahead of the Cats and it could very well be argued as appropriate. Kentucky may have two less losses (if Duke wins tomorrow night), but, as has been mentioned, Kentucky's resume, in terms true "tests" this season, is arguably the weakest in the top 10. Duke's is arguably one of the strongest.

Thirdly, I could care less.

centralbucksfan wrote:

Azubuike24 wrote: Rankings have nothing to do with seeding. Like I said, 95% of teams are going to lose AGAIN before the NCAA Tournament. Only Kansas and Syracuse have better resumes than UK right now. UK will NOT drop out of the top 5, in fact, I bet they are 4th on Monday, and justifiably so if Purdue, Syracuse and Kansas win. With that said, UK's resume is still better than Purdue's, or at least comparable.

UK better resume then Purdue? Purdue has beaten top 10 OSU, at OSU. They beat MSU, @ MSU. Those two games alone, trump ANY UK win to date. Purdue also beat Tenn when they were at full strength(Smith). Add in Wisky, that is 4 top 20 wins for Purdue. UK top two wins are against Vandy and Tenn, which happen to be the only two ranked teams they beat currently. Two teams in the 15-20 range. On top of that, the SEC is not near what the Big Ten is.
Now I am not argueing who is better or who deserves a #1 seed. But UK resume is NOT better then Purdue.
If Purdue happens to beat MSU, go on to win big ten..wins a couple games at least in Big Ten tourney.....even the loss of Hummel won't stop them from some serious consideration for a top 4 seed.
Sorry, no way does UK have a better resume. UK has the worst resume of any top of the top teams fighting for a top 4 seed IMO.

Kentucky's Resume:
RPI: 4
SOS: 37
vs RPI top 50: 6-0
vs RPI top 100: 13-1

Purdue's Resume:
RPI: 8
SOS: 48
vs RPI top 50: 6-2
vs RPI top 100: 11-3

Call me biased, but I fail to see where Purdue's resume is far superior. In fact, it looks similar, or even inferior.

Rec, here's how I see it heading into today.

Syracuse is the clear #1. Best team, maybe, maybe not, but they have earned the spot just based on UK and KU losing and them working their way up.

Purdue is #2 if they win. They only have three losses, but might be the hottest team in the country after their mid-season 3-game losing streak. If they lose, I think they take a hit, especially as the voters will see a loss without Hummel at home.

I think Kansas will remain #3 and Kentucky will remain #4. Both lost, but both have good resumes and their losses weren't necessarily to crappy teams. You have to figure Tennessee will sneak back into the top 15 and Oklahoma State, while not ranked, will certainly still gain some ground.

Duke might jump to #3 with a win, but I still don't see it. Wins over Tulsa and UVA aren't going to vault them higher than 5 (unless Purdue loses), and I don't think they should. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if K-State were to jump Duke, especially in the AP poll as they are quietly winners of 7 straight (as impressive as Duke) and had a big week knocking off Texas Tech in Lubbock and beating Missouri.

Purdue Wins:
1. Syracuse
2. Purdue
3. Kansas
4. Kentucky
5. Kansas State
6. Duke
7. Ohio State
8. New Mexico

Purdue Loses:
1. Syracuse
2. Kansas
3. Kentucky
4. Kansas State
5. Duke
6. Ohio State
7. New Mexico
8. Purdue

Then again, polls are just a nice little number by the team name As I've said multiple times in this thread, 95% of teams are going to lose at least 1 more game in the next 14 days. The polls could all but be scrapped after this upcoming week since the number beside a team's name is no longer relevant, even for media hype or advertisement. It's March Madness time!