http://thedailyvoice.com/voice/2010/01/police-beat-black-teen-after-m-002510.php
What are your thoughts?

Namecalling and ignorance stop at the door please

Yeah, the topic can be discussed. I just would like people to discuss this case (whether by itself or in comparison to others) with some semblance of intelligence and maturity and without attacking each other due to a difference of opinion.

Heretic wrote: Yeah, the topic can be discussed. I just would like people to discuss this case (whether by itself or in comparison to others) with some semblance of intelligence and maturity and without attacking each other due to a difference of opinion.

I agree, although I did find it hilarious that people would say unrelated irrelevant things then not be able to back up what they said.

Lets keep this one nice and smart, *coughAlCaponeandManazecough*

What I'm saying wiggin is that the Pittsburgh area has experienced alot of cop killings over the last year or so. The situation last night only proves my point. This scumbag was ready and willing to shoot her point blank in the head. A malfunctioning gun is the only thing that saved her life. So when you get on here and call these brave individuals pigs, yes I take exception to it.

Heretic wrote: Yeah, the topic can be discussed. I just would like people to discuss this case (whether by itself or in comparison to others) with some semblance of intelligence and maturity and without attacking each other due to a difference of opinion.

Good luck with that. Any time race is discussed on this website, a few people make ignorant comments, then the whole thread is ruined.

Ender Wiggin wrote: http://thedailyvoice.com/voice/2010/01/p...002510.php

What are your thoughts?

Namecalling and ignorance stop at the door please

The link doesn't work for me.

I didn't know this thread was about race.

Looks like the cops acted out of line in this case. I'm sure they'll get their due justice.

Mr. 300 wrote: Looks like the cops acted out of line in this case. I'm sure they'll get their due justice.

Too many times Justice isn't served when it comes to Cops committing crimes.

Endor
I understand, but the use of "pig" probably wasn't the best idea considering it's a thread concerning alleged police brutality. From my experience on the old huddle, that's a very hot-button topic where people will ignore any legitimate points and just focus on dumb shit like that.

Mally
If that happens again, this topic goes to sleep for a day or two. Unless it's just one person causing stress...which will cause their posts to be the only stuff that disappears.

Al
This topic doesn't need to be about race...it's alleged police brutality regardless. But on the first thread, a lot of posts seemed to focus on it. And oftentimes in a far more obnoxious form than just mentioning the victim is black, as the thread title did.

Al Capone wrote: What I'm saying wiggin is that the Pittsburgh area has experienced alot of cop killings over the last year or so. The situation last night only proves my point. This scumbag was ready and willing to shoot her point blank in the head. A malfunctioning gun is the only thing that saved her life. So when you get on here and call these brave individuals pigs, yes I take exception to it.

Do not let another case judge others, if you were able to apply what happened at X to what happened at Y, you would just be on a slippery slope, I could say that the cop in your case acted incorrectly because one time a cop planted evidence in another case. It doesnt work like that.

And Brave to me isnt 3 cops beating 1 person. I could mention some stories of getting harassed by cops, thats my opinion of the ones that harassed me and the ones in this case, but it doesnt mean I think that way of them all.

And in the other topic as well, I didnt even mention the race in any of my posts so ya, I hope it doesnt get into this topic either.

mallymal614 wrote:

Mr. 300 wrote: Looks like the cops acted out of line in this case. I'm sure they'll get their due justice.

Too many times Justice isn't served when it comes to Cops committing crimes.

Too many times justice isn't served when it comes to all sorts of folks committing crimes, police officers included.

From what I've read, these particular officers have not yet been charged with a crime..... investigation continues.

I prefer to wait until all available facts are available before weighing in on one side or the other.

Why does "black" have to be in the thread title?

LJ wrote: Why does "black" have to be in the thread title?

I wonder that also. But why does it have to be in title in the article, and why are the mother's quotes about race? If the article is telling the whole story, the officers should be disciplined. However, they deservie to have an investigation to determine the entire story.

Al Bundy wrote:

LJ wrote: Why does "black" have to be in the thread title?

I wonder that also. But why does it have to be in title in the article, and why are the mother's quotes about race? If the article is telling the whole story, the officers should be disciplined. However, they deservie to have an investigation to determine the entire story.

I mean, the thread isn't about race right? So why does the title have to identify him as a "black" teen?

LJ wrote: Why does "black" have to be in the thread title?

Because the article says it, every article says it, shut the fuck up about it, not a big deal. You wouldve seen it in any article that was linked so its in the title of the topic.

Its only the idiots that brought up race ignorantly last time which got the topic closed, not the fact of him being black, stfu dont be like them.

Ender Wiggin wrote:

LJ wrote: Why does "black" have to be in the thread title?

Because the article says it, every article says it, shut the fuck up about it, not a big deal. You wouldve seen it in any article that was linked so its in the title of the topic.

Its only the idiots that brought up race ignorantly last time which got the topic closed, not the fact of him being black, stfu dont be like them.

You're a little touchy. Maybe you should take a break from the thread.

its plain and simple if he would have listened this might not have happened. if the police tell you to stop you stop. Why would you run from police if you weren't hiding something?

Id expect a tad more than a copout answer from a moderator, I guess I think too highly of people. Disregarding and moving on/

MANAZE wrote: its plain and simple if he would have listened this might not have happened. if the police tell you to stop you stop. Why would you run from police if you weren't hiding something?

Hey Manaze, youre out at night a 3 people start to chase you, what do you do?

This has nothing to do with the article, what happened, or anything, just a question.

If I hear freeze police I freeze. Is it really that hard? You want to start a race war because the kid is black. Well guess what it doesn't matter who you are, if you run from the police you'll get your ass beat. It happens all the time to white people on Cops.

This is what is wrong with this country. Because I didn't know, isn't an excuse anymore.

MANAZE wrote: If I hear freeze police I freeze. Is it really that hard? You want to start a race war because the kid is black. Well guess what it doesn't matter who you are, if you run from the police you'll get your ass beat. It happens all the time to white people on Cops.

This is what is wrong with this country. Because I didn't know, isn't an excuse anymore.

And here we go putting words into other peoples mouths again, awesome example of ignorance and idiocy from Manaze. I never mentioned race in ANY of my posts, that was you equating a term like pigs, used to designate a job to the N word, which is used for a race, like a fool. First of all, predictably, I love how you didnt even answer the question I asked, not surprising consider the dumb things you posted in the other topic, secondly, apparently the cops did not say they were cops because they were undercover.

You really need to go back to school and learn comprehension

So ill ask again in the hopes that you might be able to answer, but if 3 people are chasing you at night, what are you going to do?

I answered your question. See if 3 cops are chasing you, they are telling you they are cops and to freeze. He didn't listen and he got his ass beat. As soon as you single a group of people out for them being a "pig" that is the same as calling someone the "n" word. you are making fun or trying to hurt them by using derogatory ( http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/derogatory ) words.

Ok for one, they didnt identify themselves as cops and they didnt look like cops because they were in plainclothes. And if you actually read what I said, you wouldve seen that I didnt ask what would you do if 3 COPS chased you, I asked what would you do if 3 regular people chased you. But I guess thats too much for you to understand.

And no its not the same thing, heres what you said the last topic:

<i>well if you call one cop a pig but your not meaning all cops are pigs I guess it would be ok for us to call the kid that ran from three police officers a stupid "n" word just because were only talking about him right? or is this not your logic?</i>
Starters, why would you call the kid a N word? What if a white person ran from the cops, what would you call them? What if a Latino ran, what would you call them? Youre using a racial term, last I checked, cops can be ANY race, thus any race can be pigs.

The fact that you are actually trying to justify what youre saying is highly laughable.

Once again I will mention because you seem clearly unable to comprehend that apparently the cops didnt identify themselves as cops because they were undercover, now please stop acting as if 3 cops were chasing him. I know its going to be hard for you to do simple things, but please try, k sport?

what proof do you have that the cops did not identify themselves? because that is imprinted into their training from day one.

I can't not understand how 3 cops were not chasing him when they are in fact cops. Cops want to go home to their families like everyone else. They are not going to chase a person who they think might have gun with out trying to get the person to talk to them first. Quit making excuses because the kid couldn't listen to what the cops were saying. The cops did what was right. More people in this country need to be beat like that.

you can't single people out for their race, faith or job. its simple as soon as you do it your just as ignorant as the rest of us. its one of those things that is wrong with this country I can make fun of you but don't you dare say anything bad about me because if you do I'll sue you.

Yes because never ever make mistakes or lie? Nope never, they are always standards in what to look up to, youre clueless. They never get caught abusing their power or planting evidence.

But we will play youre dumb game, what proof do you have that the undercover cops did id them selves? Because 3 people getting out of a car in regular close coming towards me isnt something that is normal. Also, seeing as they are cops, if they got out of the car, they wouldnt right away proclaim they are cops, theyd approach. Ill ask again, which you seem STILL unable to answer, if 3 REGULAR people started chasing you what would you do? And cops dont chase people, oh thats funny you just said they do. Crazy.

I think youre just being in idiotic person on purpose, no one is as stupid as you are, you are just spouting bullshit without listening to anyone else, youre not answer anyones question, youre basicall putting your fingers in your ears and say "noooooooo im right youre wrong!"

THE COPS DIDNT IDENTIFY THEMSELVES. So please tell me why you keep posting like a dumbass on the pretense that they were fulling uniformed cops in a squad car? Seriously.

Three undercover cops with guns should not have to get close enough to even have to swing one blow, escpecially if they feel the perp has a weapon. If they were afraid for their saftey, they could have drawn their weapon, announced themselves as police, and I'm sure the boy would have stopped. Also, I lived in Cleveland and here our undercover cars have lghts and sirens, they couldn't have blurped him and flashed their lights.

And I agree more people need to get beat, starting with you, one less simpleminded special needs person to deal with.

I look forward to you not answering my question again and ignoring things that are stated, and then making up your own scenarios then trying to pass them as fact.