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Feb 20, 2010 8:01 PM
Ender Wiggin wrote: It seems like the biggest issue here in this topic is that people are making up their own scenarios and trying to apply them to things that are just not logical.

[size=xx-large]Also people are putting words into others mouths and trying to say that people said things or claimed things that they in fact did not do.[/size]
Some of you really need to stop that, makes you look.....well, not good.
You mean like the kids mom who said that the police assumed because he was black he was up to no good? Again, how the hell did she know what they assumed?
Feb 20, 2010 8:01pm
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Feb 20, 2010 8:03 PM
Because I didnt think it would matter, I guess I thought too highly of the community here. That is my fault, I shouldve know I was dealing with people who arent very, for lack of a better term, cultured or astute about certain things.

Like I said, its the same in every reputable publication, any site, its the same, so I should change it because some people arent smart enough to discuss things correctly? Thats not my fault.

By telling me to change the title, youre telling CNN to change the title, CNN and everyone else that has the same title. That doesnt make sense to me.

I can understand if I myself mentioned anything about race in my posts, but I didnt. If I had said "man those white cops are blah blah blah etc" then youd have a point, but I didnt, so you dont.
Feb 20, 2010 8:03pm
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Feb 20, 2010 8:04 PM
Ender Wiggin wrote:
And to LJ, im not the one whos failing, I didnt bring up race once, the article did, but I can totally see how you would think I did because the article
So then why are you turning into a little bitch when people are talking about race? The article claims racism, so deal with it.
try and think a little more before you post ok, you look like an ass.....again, but at least you are consistent.
Actually that would be your problem. Maybe you should think about the context of the article before you start crying about people bringing race into the thread
I titled the thread that way because thats how its titled in EVERY news report
No it's not

http://www.bvblackspin.com/2010/01/25/jordan-miles-police-brutality/
Teen Violinist Jordan Miles Beaten By Police Who Tore Off His Dreadlock
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/pittsburgh/s_663712.html
Mother alleges son brutalized by police
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/2/3/113518/4378
Young Violist Brutally Attacked by Police
http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/01/22/pennsylvania.arrest.dispute/index.html?iref=allsearch
Brutality charged as Pittsburgh police defend 'fist strikes' on teen[/quote[

Had enough yet?

No let's keep going

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/24/jordan-miles-teen-violini_n_434772.html
Jordan Miles, Teen Violinist: Beat By Police Over Mt. Dew Bottle
http://www.bet.com/News/National_Police_Accused_of_Brutality_in_Jordan_Miles_Beating.htm?wbc_purpose=Basic&WBCMODE=PresentationUnpublished&Referrer={0471DDF0-D0D8-48A8-9E30-ADD40CBE0269}
Pittsburgh Police Accused of Brutality in Jordan Miles Beating
That should be enough evidence that you are completely full of shit and doing nothing but race baiting. Quit your crying and attacks.





if youre going to cry like a bitch to me about that, go boohoo to every publication the ok? Dont try a switch it on me because the people involved feel a certain way. We call that projection.
This statement is so full of fail
So if youre done spouting out senseless bullshit, thatd be a great help to everyone in this topic
I highly suggest you take your own advice
Feb 20, 2010 8:04pm
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Feb 20, 2010 8:05 PM
Ender Wiggin wrote: Because I didnt think it would matter, I guess I thought too highly of the community here. That is my fault, I shouldve know I was dealing with people who arent very, for lack of a better term, cultured or astute about certain things.

Like I said, its the same in every reputable publication, any site, its the same, so I should change it because some people arent smart enough to discuss things correctly? Thats not my fault.

By telling me to change the title, youre telling CNN to change the title, CNN and everyone else that has the same title. That doesnt make sense to me.

I can understand if I myself mentioned anything about race in my posts, but I didnt. If I had said "man those white cops are blah blah blah etc" then youd have a point, but I didnt, so you dont.
Too bad this post is so full of fail. That wasn't the CNN title. see my last post for the CNN title.
Feb 20, 2010 8:05pm
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Feb 20, 2010 8:05 PM
This isnt CNN, its freehuddle. you can name the title anything you damn well please. you arent bound to name the title what the news article title is.
Feb 20, 2010 8:05pm
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Feb 20, 2010 8:06 PM
skank wrote:
Ender Wiggin wrote: It seems like the biggest issue here in this topic is that people are making up their own scenarios and trying to apply them to things that are just not logical.

[size=xx-large]Also people are putting words into others mouths and trying to say that people said things or claimed things that they in fact did not do.[/size]
Some of you really need to stop that, makes you look.....well, not good.
You mean like the kids mom who said that the police assumed because he was black he was up to no good? Again, how the hell did she know what they assumed?
I dont know what she assumed, however I didnt make any comment on that did I? Its like you all are trying to make what she said into something I myself said, which I never did at all. Its like people are trying to make it seem that I said some racial stuff when I said nothing of the sort lol. I find it hilarious.

If anything, you could say something about me calling cops pigs. But then youd have nothing to say there either. Its a slippery slope.
Feb 20, 2010 8:06pm
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Feb 20, 2010 8:06 PM
I believe that the statistics say there is more black people in jail than white people so when I see things like this I am not shocked.
Feb 20, 2010 8:06pm
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Feb 20, 2010 8:07 PM
Glory Days wrote: This isnt CNN, its freehuddle. you can name the title anything you damn well please. you arent bound to name the title what the news article title is.
Thats not relevant in the least though. Its what the title of every article said, are you really caring about the title as opposed to the issue?

If a mod can change it then go ahead, if that will really make people feel better. (lol)

But when they click the link they will just see it there, when they go to any page, they will see it there.

So I ask, whats the point?
Feb 20, 2010 8:07pm
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Feb 20, 2010 8:08 PM
Ender Wiggin wrote:
Glory Days wrote: This isnt CNN, its freehuddle. you can name the title anything you damn well please. you arent bound to name the title what the news article title is.
Thats not relevant in the least though. Its what the title of every article said, are you really caring about the title as opposed to the issue?

If a mod can change it then go ahead, if that will really make people feel better. (lol)

But when they click the link they will just see it there, when they go to any page, they will see it there.

So I ask, whats the point?
quit lying. It's tiresome
Feb 20, 2010 8:08pm
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Feb 20, 2010 8:08 PM
Ender Wiggin wrote:
skank wrote:
Ender Wiggin wrote: It seems like the biggest issue here in this topic is that people are making up their own scenarios and trying to apply them to things that are just not logical.

[size=xx-large]Also people are putting words into others mouths and trying to say that people said things or claimed things that they in fact did not do.[/size]
Some of you really need to stop that, makes you look.....well, not good.
You mean like the kids mom who said that the police assumed because he was black he was up to no good? Again, how the hell did she know what they assumed?
I dont know what she assumed, however I didnt make any comment on that did I? Its like you all are trying to make what she said into something I myself said, which I never did at all. Its like people are trying to make it seem that I said some racial stuff when I said nothing of the sort lol. I find it hilarious.

If anything, you could say something about me calling cops pigs. But then youd have nothing to say there either. Its a slippery slope.
haha but you have assumed the cops didnt identify themselves as cops and commented plenty on that.
Feb 20, 2010 8:08pm
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Feb 20, 2010 8:11 PM
Ender Wiggin wrote:
Glory Days wrote: This isnt CNN, its freehuddle. you can name the title anything you damn well please. you arent bound to name the title what the news article title is.
Thats not relevant in the least though. Its what the title of every article said, are you really caring about the title as opposed to the issue?

If a mod can change it then go ahead, if that will really make people feel better. (lol)

But when they click the link they will just see it there, when they go to any page, they will see it there.

So I ask, whats the point?
haha like LJ pointed out, only the source you provided mentions he is black...and thats coming from "Black America's Daily News Source".
Feb 20, 2010 8:11pm
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Feb 20, 2010 8:17 PM
Ya, As I said in the other topic...
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010...beating-p/
http://thedailyvoice.com/voice/2010/01/p...002510.php
http://www.eurweb.com/?p=4634
http://www.startribune.com/nation/832706...:UiacyKUUr
http://www.sfexaminer.com/nation/3-white...71417.html

And no IM not assuming anything, Im only going off the story that was reported, thats all any of us can do.

But thank you for ONCE AGAIN putting words into peoples mouths that they didnt say.
Feb 20, 2010 8:17pm
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Feb 20, 2010 8:18 PM
Lol LJ, im lying when people are saying that im claiming and saying things that I did not.

RIght once again with your flawless logic, keep it up, I see the red showing a bit haha.
Feb 20, 2010 8:18pm
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Feb 20, 2010 8:19 PM
Wig, I'm assuming you're black, if so, the police that you claim have harrased you, what race were they?
Feb 20, 2010 8:19pm
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Feb 20, 2010 8:20 PM
Ender Wiggin wrote: Lol LJ, im lying when people are saying that im claiming and saying things that I did not.

RIght once again with your flawless logic, keep it up, I see the red showing a bit haha.
Where did I ever claim you said something you didn't?

Besides you know, where you said every article calls him black.

Like i said, if you want my opinion on the matter I will give it. But I don't think you really care when it comes to this baiting thread.
Feb 20, 2010 8:20pm
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Feb 20, 2010 8:21 PM
Again, why did you choose to post this news story if not for the race issue? Like I said, I'm quite sure there are plenty of white on white, black on black or black on white stories out there. Yet you chose to post this one.
Feb 20, 2010 8:21pm
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Feb 20, 2010 8:25 PM
Ender Wiggin wrote: Ok for one, they didnt identify themselves as cops..... Once again I will mention because you seem clearly unable to comprehend that apparently the cops didnt identify themselves as cops because they were undercover.
Those are your words from earlier in this thread in the same post. and no where in the article does it say that they did or didnt identify themselves as cops. you are assuming they didnt. do you even know what the term "putting words in my mouth" means?
Feb 20, 2010 8:25pm
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Feb 20, 2010 8:26 PM
Why do people make a topic about the Cavs current game? Why do people make a topic on Tuesdays about Lost(I think its on Tuesdays)?

Because thats whats happening then, thats what they saw then and decided to try and discuss it.

For example, I just heard about the story about the clerk at a store that was getting robbed, he shot one of the robbers, chased the other, then came back to the store and shot the robber 5 more times after he was incapacitated and hes being charged with murder.

This or that isnt the issue, I saw this story, so I started a topic about it, it has no difference. Or the story about the lady cop that someone mentioned earlier,

Race REALLY doesnt have anything to do with this, as I said, if a mod can change the topic then thats perfectly fine by me, the people claiming im making this racial, check my posts, you wont find anything racial, the only thing you will find is pigs
Feb 20, 2010 8:26pm
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Feb 20, 2010 8:28 PM
Glory Days wrote:
Ender Wiggin wrote: Ok for one, they didnt identify themselves as cops..... Once again I will mention because you seem clearly unable to comprehend that apparently the cops didnt identify themselves as cops because they were undercover.
Those are your words from earlier in this thread in the same post. and no where in the article does it say that they did or didnt identify themselves as cops. you are assuming they didnt. do you even know what the term "putting words in my mouth" means?
The boy said they didnt ID themselves, not me, so you are putting words in my mouth, which is a term ive come to be familiar with here :)

If they did, then we have a word against word then.

I can only go by what was read, but some people are trying to say I am saying all sorts of other things in which I didnt say.
Feb 20, 2010 8:28pm
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Feb 20, 2010 8:29 PM
And Skank yes I am a black man, ive been and been with people who havebeen harassed by cops of different races. I dont care if your white, black, latino, asian, klingon, jedi, or ninja cop.
Feb 20, 2010 8:29pm
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hey wuts going on in this thread.
Feb 20, 2010 8:30pm
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Feb 20, 2010 8:30 PM
ok here, just incase you forgot what you read:
Police in Pittsburgh are under fire after an unarmed black teenager was brutally beaten after officers mistook a soda bottle for a gun.

Jordan Miles was walking from his mother's home to his grandmother's house when three undercover white police officers jumped out of a car and approached him around 11 p.m. on January 12. Miles, 18, ran but the undercover officers caught him and punched him with closed fists, according to news reports.

The police say they suspected the shape underneath Miles's coat was a deadly weapon. It turned out to be a bottle of Mountain Dew soda.

Miles's mom suspects her son was assumed to be a criminal because of his race. "I feel that my son was racially profiled," Terez Miles said. "It's a rough neighborhood; it was after dark," she said. "They assumed he was up to no good because he's black. My son, he knows nothing about the streets at all. He's had a very sheltered life, he's very quiet, he doesn't know police officers sit in cars and stalk people like that."

Miles's family told the media that the teen plays the viola for the orchestra at Pittsburgh's Creative and Performing Arts High School. His mother said there was no reason for the officers to hit him the way they did, describing her son as 5'6 and 150 pounds. He has no criminal record.
the word identify doesnt even appear in that article. there are no quotes from the boy in that article.
Feb 20, 2010 8:30pm
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Feb 20, 2010 8:33 PM
Glory Days wrote: ok here, just incase you forgot what you read:
Police in Pittsburgh are under fire after an unarmed black teenager was brutally beaten after officers mistook a soda bottle for a gun.

Jordan Miles was walking from his mother's home to his grandmother's house when three undercover white police officers jumped out of a car and approached him around 11 p.m. on January 12. Miles, 18, ran but the undercover officers caught him and punched him with closed fists, according to news reports.

The police say they suspected the shape underneath Miles's coat was a deadly weapon. It turned out to be a bottle of Mountain Dew soda.

Miles's mom suspects her son was assumed to be a criminal because of his race. "I feel that my son was racially profiled," Terez Miles said. "It's a rough neighborhood; it was after dark," she said. "They assumed he was up to no good because he's black. My son, he knows nothing about the streets at all. He's had a very sheltered life, he's very quiet, he doesn't know police officers sit in cars and stalk people like that."

Miles's family told the media that the teen plays the viola for the orchestra at Pittsburgh's Creative and Performing Arts High School. His mother said there was no reason for the officers to hit him the way they did, describing her son as 5'6 and 150 pounds. He has no criminal record.
the word identify doesnt even appear in that article. there are no quotes from the boy in that article.
Its in a video that, one that showed what he looks like now, still bruised up with a bloodshot eye, would you like me to link that? You act as if i only saw this and etc.
Feb 20, 2010 8:33pm
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Feb 20, 2010 8:35 PM
Here is a pic of the victim 2 hours before
Feb 20, 2010 8:35pm
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Feb 20, 2010 8:37 PM
LOL nice
Feb 20, 2010 8:37pm