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devil1197

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Feb 18, 2010 2:09 PM
Laley23 wrote: lol, what a psycho!

Glad it wasnt terrorist related..... :S
Pretty sure this falls under domestic terrorism.

He sure as hell didn't like the way the United States operates.
Feb 18, 2010 2:09pm
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Feb 18, 2010 2:10 PM
devil1197 wrote:
Laley23 wrote: lol, what a psycho!

Glad it wasnt terrorist related..... :S
Pretty sure this falls under domestic terrorism.

He sure as hell didn't like the way the United States operates.
I know, thus my "confused smiley" relating to the early reports that it wasnt terrorism related.

This is definitely an act of terror.
Feb 18, 2010 2:10pm
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Feb 18, 2010 2:12 PM
Upper90 wrote: Well, would this not be an act of terror?

And yeah, reading that manifesto was a bit intense.
I guess it depends on your definition. When a disgruntled ex-employee "goes postal" and shoots a bunch of people, is it terrorism? Not IMO. This is only different in the choice of weapon.
Feb 18, 2010 2:12pm
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Feb 18, 2010 2:14 PM
He seems like a smart guy, and I generally agree with him, but it's a shame he thought that this was the answer.
Feb 18, 2010 2:14pm
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Feb 18, 2010 2:35 PM
I agree with the majority of points this man makes. But there's one glaring inaccuracy. Violence is not the answer.
Feb 18, 2010 2:35pm
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Feb 18, 2010 2:45 PM
that was quite a read
Feb 18, 2010 2:45pm
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Feb 18, 2010 2:49 PM
queencitybuckeye wrote:
Upper90 wrote: Well, would this not be an act of terror?

And yeah, reading that manifesto was a bit intense.
I guess it depends on your definition. When a disgruntled ex-employee "goes postal" and shoots a bunch of people, is it terrorism? Not IMO. This is only different in the choice of weapon.
I don't think this guys situation is anything like a disgruntled ex employee.

This guy definitely had some major issues with the United States government and this was he way with dealing with it.
Feb 18, 2010 2:49pm
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Feb 18, 2010 2:53 PM
ccrunner609 wrote: plane crash into building = terrorist.
Cory Lidle=terrorist?
Feb 18, 2010 2:53pm
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queencitybuckeye

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Feb 18, 2010 2:55 PM
devil1197 wrote: This guy definitely had some major issues with the United States government and this was he way with dealing with it.
I think we'll find out in due course that his issue stemed from getting caught cheating on his taxes. He comes across to me as one of those tax protester wackos.
Feb 18, 2010 2:55pm
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Feb 18, 2010 3:01 PM
We know the government would never do anyone wrong, so that's a safe assumption....
Feb 18, 2010 3:01pm
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Feb 18, 2010 3:03 PM
queencitybuckeye wrote: I think we'll find out in due course that his issue stemed from getting caught cheating on his taxes. He comes across to me as one of those tax protester wackos.
Strapping Young Lad wrote: We know the government would never do anyone wrong, so that's a safe assumption....
I was having the same thought. Do you expect the government to come out and admit that they screwed this guy over and drove him to do what he did?
Feb 18, 2010 3:03pm
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Feb 18, 2010 3:06 PM
That is fucked up that I too agree with A LOT of what he said. But come on man...NOT the way to go about it...

I suppose he got everyone to listen.
Feb 18, 2010 3:06pm
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queencitybuckeye

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Feb 18, 2010 3:08 PM
Strapping Young Lad wrote: We know the government would never do anyone wrong, so that's a safe assumption....
Do you have any reason to believe the government screwed this fruit loop, other than wanting to believe it?
Feb 18, 2010 3:08pm
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Feb 18, 2010 3:14 PM
just sad he couldnt get help or that his family never realized there was a problem
Feb 18, 2010 3:14pm
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Feb 18, 2010 3:16 PM
Yes. Organizations, especially the Federal Government, have been screwing people for years. If you don't think so, you're very lucky.
Feb 18, 2010 3:16pm
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queencitybuckeye

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Feb 18, 2010 3:20 PM
Strapping Young Lad wrote: Yes. Organizations, especially the Federal Government, have been screwing people for years. If you don't think so, you're very lucky.
What happens more often - someone cheats on their taxes and gets caught, or someone gets blatently screwed by the IRS (note: this is rhetorical unless one is a member of the tinfoil brigade)?

By your logic, people should spend all of their earnings on the lottery. After all, someone does win.
Feb 18, 2010 3:20pm
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Feb 18, 2010 3:23 PM
What the hell are you talking about????
Feb 18, 2010 3:23pm
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Feb 18, 2010 3:24 PM
Waiting for him to be labeled a right wing extremist/teabagger.....probably a 'birther' too...owns lots of guns.

/sarcasm
Feb 18, 2010 3:24pm
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queencitybuckeye

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Feb 18, 2010 3:26 PM
Strapping Young Lad wrote: What the hell are you talking about????
I'm talking about people choosing the believe the less likely over the more likely tending to be the black helicopter types.

The most likely scenario is that he was a nutburger and a tax cheat. Why is this such a difficult concept for you?
Feb 18, 2010 3:26pm
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Feb 18, 2010 3:28 PM
Okay. I don't know what a black-helicopter type is but whatever......
Feb 18, 2010 3:28pm
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queencitybuckeye

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Feb 18, 2010 3:33 PM
Black helicopter types are those who see conspiracies, government conspiracies in particular around every corner.

It is possible that the IRS screwed this guy? Yes.

Is it FAR more likely that he's a wacko and a cheat? Yes.
Feb 18, 2010 3:33pm
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Feb 18, 2010 3:55 PM
Strapping Young Lad wrote: Yes. Organizations, especially the Federal Government, have been screwing people for years. If you don't think so, you're very lucky.
and so have non government organizations.
Feb 18, 2010 3:55pm
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Feb 18, 2010 3:59 PM
queencitybuckeye wrote: Black helicopter types are those who see conspiracies, government conspiracies in particular around every corner.

It is possible that the IRS screwed this guy? Yes.

Is it FAR more likely that he's a wacko and a cheat? Yes.
It wouldn't suprise me if this guy cheated on his taxes. But it sure as hell would not suprise if The Man fucked this guy around one too many times.

Powerful organizations screw people over everyday and it's a very helpless feeling for those people.

When I see something like this I give the benefit of the doubt to the little guy. You give the benefit of the doubt to the establishment.
Feb 18, 2010 3:59pm
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Feb 18, 2010 7:55 PM
i actually drove past this building about 45 minutes after the crash...it was the craziest thing ive ever seen..FAA, TSA, FBI all over the place - with the size of the hole in the building and the way stuff looked i cant believe that this didnt do more damage

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Feb 18, 2010 7:55pm
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Feb 18, 2010 8:00 PM
I'm surprised this doesn't happen more often. The IRS has to be the most hated government agency.
Feb 18, 2010 8:00pm