#KnownSecrets White people are still racist.

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vball10set
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Feb 11, 2010 11:43am
^^ I would love to see Sage walk that walk...
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Society
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Feb 11, 2010 11:50am
From wikipedia:
Comedian Chris Rock's routine "Niggas vs. Black People" distinguishes a nigga, which he defined as a "low-expectation-having motherfucker", from a "black person". In contrast, Tupac Shakur in an interview in the documentary Tupac: Resurrection distinguished between nigger and nigga: "Niggers was the ones on the rope, hanging off the thing; niggas is the ones with gold ropes, hanging out at clubs."
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Gblock
Feb 11, 2010 11:52am
time for your counter point
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my counter point is that is a very unevolved point of view...those words spread hate and are unecessary, there are other words to describe all of those types of people you describe. when i hear those words its almost always followed by violence.
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cbus4life
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Feb 11, 2010 11:53am
I love people who say "why don't we have a White History month."

I thought only 6th graders who thought they were being clever brought that up, but i guess not.
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Feb 11, 2010 11:53am
following society's post, while it may not be PC, i did find this to be quite humorous

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Society
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Feb 11, 2010 11:54am
Gblock wrote:my counter point is that is a very unevolved point of view...those words spread hate and are unecessary, there are other words to describe all of those types of people you describe. when i hear those words its almost always followed by violence.
Education is a bonus, not only to stop the violence, but also to help your spelling and grammar.
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Gblock
Feb 11, 2010 12:02pm
its a message board not an english paper im not really going to correct typos.....

as far as the chris rock stuff goes....you realize he is a comedian he is making jokes....it is not something that you should try to mold your moral values by...sorry for beginning and ending my sentences with prepositions lol
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Society
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Feb 11, 2010 12:05pm
Gblock wrote: its a message board not an english paper im not really going to correct typos.....

as far as the chris rock stuff goes....you realize he is a comedian he is making jokes....it is not something that you should try to mold your moral values by...sorry for beginning and ending my sentences with prepositions lol
Who said anything about molding moral values? What about Tupac? Many more examples can be provided.
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Gblock
Feb 11, 2010 12:06pm
i also think there is a difference between racism and joking around, i have plenty of friends of all races and we constantly make jokes about race....as long as its funny i dont have a problem with it. when it becomes mean i draw the line. i think a good way to tell if you are racist is to think that if your daughter brought home a person of another race would you be upset or not.
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Gblock
Feb 11, 2010 12:07pm
Society wrote:
Gblock wrote: its a message board not an english paper im not really going to correct typos.....

as far as the chris rock stuff goes....you realize he is a comedian he is making jokes....it is not something that you should try to mold your moral values by...sorry for beginning and ending my sentences with prepositions lol
Who said anything about molding moral values? What about Tupac? Many more examples can be provided.
what about tupac? are you talking about black people using the n word? also society im not really responding to your posts but rather those who think you can call some people black and some people n words

As far as black people using the word i would rather they didnt use it in front of white people it does set a double standard....but i do it sometimes so its kinda hypocritical....and im half white and half black so i kind of see both sides, but mostly i identify with black because of that is the way i am looked at w long hair and briads alot of people dont realize my mom is white.
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thereddragin
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Feb 11, 2010 1:12pm
never said i used the words... i just explained the defrence.... i do agree that those words can lead to violence.. violence that I have to deal with on a daily basis... as to the typo stuff i'm 100% on board with you... lol
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SnotBubbles
Feb 11, 2010 1:58pm
Honestly, why is there even a need for this discussion? I was just going to read and not post...but it seems to come up a lot on here and thought it was a valuable question to add to the discussion.

Either you are or you aren't (racist). No need to discuss it on a public forum (IMO) and upset someone.
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Feb 11, 2010 1:58pm
bigkahuna wrote:When do we make "special time" to remember the white man's history?
It's called K-12 education
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Feb 11, 2010 2:04pm
If I was racist I'd lose half of my friends. Nothing disgusts me more than racism. And my high school was as rural as they get.
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Gblock
Feb 11, 2010 2:06pm
as far as discussing this on a message board i would suggest with some of the views here that this is the only place you should discuss it because if you try to explain the difference between a black person and a nword to the peeps i know you are going ot probly get swung on before you get halfway through the rest of the sentence lol
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Sage
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Feb 11, 2010 2:08pm
Lol @ people who think white people need a history month. Read a history book some time. White people did a pretty good job at writing it with rose colored lenses.
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bigdaddy2003
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Feb 11, 2010 2:21pm
Wow this thread is getting out of control. Who is going to propose we start a white guilt forum?
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ernest_t_bass
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Feb 11, 2010 2:42pm
White guilt?
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Feb 11, 2010 2:46pm
cbus4life wrote: I love people who say "why don't we have a White History month."
Don't forget..they have their own TV channel too! :)
Gblock wrote:
as far as the chris rock stuff goes....you realize he is a comedian he is making jokes....
And as long as people continue to 'joke' about racism..it will still be brought up. Therefor..racism will continue to exist. Even if it's 'just a joke'.
Gblock wrote: i think a good way to tell if you are racist is to think that if your daughter brought home a person of another race would you be upset or not.
Bullshit..I don't believe in interracial dating/marriage. I would be upset if my son started dating another person of another race. That's my choice. That doesn't make me a racist though.
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j_crazy
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Feb 11, 2010 2:46pm
being born a white american is the best thing that ever happened to me.


what's up with the pound sign? #KnownSecrets???
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El Jefe Grande
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Feb 11, 2010 2:50pm
"This ain’t black versus white my n- we off that. Please tell Bill O' Reilly to fall back. Tell Rush Limbaugh to get off my balls. It's 2010 , not 1864."
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Gblock
Feb 11, 2010 3:13pm
GoChiefs wrote:
cbus4life wrote: I love people who say "why don't we have a White History month."
Don't forget..they have their own TV channel too! :)
Gblock wrote:
as far as the chris rock stuff goes....you realize he is a comedian he is making jokes....
And as long as people continue to 'joke' about racism..it will still be brought up. Therefor..racism will continue to exist. Even if it's 'just a joke'.
Gblock wrote: i think a good way to tell if you are racist is to think that if your daughter brought home a person of another race would you be upset or not.
Bullshit..I don't believe in interracial dating/marriage. I would be upset if my son started dating another person of another race. That's my choice. That doesn't make me a racist though.
im curious why would you be upset? if your son was happy and he liked her isnt that all that counts? it would have nothing to do with you you should be happy for him. my point was that some people think their race is better than another race..that would be racist. making jokes with each other i dont have a problem with.
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GoChiefs
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Feb 11, 2010 3:16pm
Gblock wrote: im curious why would you be upset? if your son was happy and he liked her isnt that all that counts? it would have nothing to do with you you should be happy for him. my point was that some people think their race is better than another race..that would be racist.
I already said why I'd be upset with it. It's something I don't believe in. It has nothing to do with 'my race being better than that race'.
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Feb 11, 2010 3:18pm
GoChiefs wrote:
Gblock wrote: im curious why would you be upset? if your son was happy and he liked her isnt that all that counts? it would have nothing to do with you you should be happy for him. my point was that some people think their race is better than another race..that would be racist.
I already said why I'd be upset with it. It's something I don't believe in. It has nothing to do with 'my race being better than that race'.
I'd say you not believing in interracial dating/marriage makes you racist.
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Upper90
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Feb 11, 2010 3:18pm
j_crazy wrote: being born a white american is the best thing that ever happened to me.
I like this. Seriously.

As I would say the same, being born black in America is one of the more fortunate things for me. Much like anything, it has it's drawbacks, but I'm far more fortunate than my Grandparents, and their generation, so I count that as lucky.

There's a way to demonstrate pride, and feel good about who you are/where you come from without being racist.

As for not "believing" in interracial dating, well, it's a choice of course. But I'm always curious to know the reasoning behind why, as I am with anything. People not believing in gay marriage can at least fall back on their religious texts (not knocking that, more speaking to a point)....and I could be unfamiliar with my Bible, but that wouldn't be the case here.

Is it just some kind of sense of "racial purity"?