Archive #KnownSecrets White people are still racist.

ZWICK 4 PREZ

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Feb 10, 2010 9:20pm

That's cool, but I don't need to feel "less guilty" about it.. I admit that it's a fault of mine, but I also feel, from experience, everyone I know,black, white, asian, middle eastern... etc.. is a lil racist to an extent. Perhaps you aren't. I can guarantee u are in an extreme minority though.

ernest_t_bass

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Feb 10, 2010 9:22pm

Sage wrote:Being white has never cost anybody anything of significance.

I agree with almost your whole post. Except the above quoted part. There have been plenty of (qualified) caucasians who have not gotten a job because a company had to meet a "so-called" quota. Don't say that it's a lie, b/c it's not.

GoChiefs

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Feb 10, 2010 9:23pm

ernest_t_bass wrote: There have been plenty of (qualified) caucasians who have not gotten a job because a company had to meet a "so-called" quota.

I know firsthand, that that is indeed truth.

homefield

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Feb 10, 2010 9:24pm

why is it that when people mention racism it is alway's the white people that are the racist?

iclfan2

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Feb 10, 2010 9:27pm

I have to agree with the camp that if black people don't like the N word they shouldn't throw it around so much.

ernest_t_bass

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Feb 10, 2010 9:27pm

ZWICK 4 PREZ wrote:Yes and no.

I'd like to say I'm not cuz I have black friends, but I'm not gonna lie and say that I don't feel uncomfortable around certain black people and thats b/c of a racist stereotype in me. Same as I feel uncomfortable around certain Muslims .. there prolly isn't any real reason to, but it's ingrained in you. Everyone is racist or prejudiced to some extent. You can choose to lie about it if u want but u r.

I agree with zwick here, except for where he misspelled "you" and "you are."

U

Upper90

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Feb 10, 2010 9:29pm

ernest_t_bass wrote:
Sage wrote:Being white has never cost anybody anything of significance.
I agree with almost your whole post. Except the above quoted part. There have been plenty of (qualified) caucasians who have not gotten a job because a company had to meet a "so-called" quota. Don't say that it's a lie, b/c it's not.

True, and that's unfortunate. It's unfortunate all around, in some cases. I've been in situations where I've been the "token" minority interview candidate, with no REAL shot at getting the job, just to fill that quota, and I have seen minorities get hired, seemingly of course, simply to fill the quota on the other end of the spectrum.

That's something that really frustrates me, on both ends. It's a complete lose-lose, that makes little to no sense WHEN it's done. And then it brings credibility into question when a more qualified minority DOES get a job by his/her own merits.

september63

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Feb 10, 2010 9:32pm

Im just pleased Sage created a thread with a positive thought! Nice job.

ernest_t_bass

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Feb 10, 2010 9:33pm

Racism
1. A belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.

Race
1. A group of persons related by common descent or heredity.
2. A population so related.
3. A group of tribes or peoples forming an ethnic stock: the Slavic race.
4. Any people united by common history, language, cultural traits, etc.: the Dutch race.
5. The human race or family; humankind: Nuclear weapons pose a threat to the race.

I don't see skin color on there.

ernest_t_bass

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Feb 10, 2010 9:38pm

My last post... I posted that b/c of what zwick said. I think we all have at least minute (my-noot) forms of racist tendencies. Based on skin color? Maybe not, as Upper stated. Based on race itself, and the meaning of race? Yes, I believe that to be so, and anyone who says they honestly have none, I don't believe that one bit.

If you say you are not racist, then I will say that you have stereotypical thoughts about different races.

Sage

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Feb 10, 2010 9:38pm

homefield wrote: why is it that when people mention racism it is alway's the white people that are the racist?

Our history precedes us.

ernest_t_bass

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Feb 10, 2010 9:42pm

Another thing I don't like, and this stems from the original post by master Sage...

I've heard Chris Rock use the term "Cracker" in his comedy routine. Why is this OK? That is a serious question.

(Edit: I just realized the irony, with my avatar being a "redneck" looking fellow. A "cracker," if you will.)

ZWICK 4 PREZ

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Feb 10, 2010 9:42pm

ernest_t_bass wrote:
If you say you are not racist, then I will say that you have stereotypical thoughts about different races.

which makes u a lil racist to an extent.

september63

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Feb 10, 2010 9:59pm

ZWICK 4 PREZ wrote:
ernest_t_bass wrote:
If you say you are not racist, then I will say that you have stereotypical thoughts about different races.
which makes u a lil racist to an extent.

Wrong!!! A persons thoughts, whether stereotypical or not, are their own thoughts. If you keep your thoughts to yourself and never discriminate, or make a discriminating comment. You arent a racist!!

ernest_t_bass

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Feb 10, 2010 10:00pm

september63 wrote:Wrong!!! A persons thoughts, whether stereotypical or not, are there own thoughts. If you keep your thoughts to yourself and never discriminate, or make a discriminating comment. You arent a racist!!

Oh, so now you're racist against MUTES!?

DeyDurkie5

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Feb 10, 2010 10:00pm

september63 wrote:
ZWICK 4 PREZ wrote:
ernest_t_bass wrote:
If you say you are not racist, then I will say that you have stereotypical thoughts about different races.
which makes u a lil racist to an extent.
Wrong!!! A persons thoughts, whether stereotypical or not, are there own thoughts. If you keep your thoughts to yourself and never discriminate, or make a discriminating comment. You arent a racist!!

If a bear poops in the woods, does it smell?

Sage

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Feb 10, 2010 10:01pm

If I think about robbing a bank, am I a bank robber? Or do I have to rob the bank?

ernest_t_bass

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Feb 10, 2010 10:01pm

DeyDurkie5 wrote:If a bear poops in the woods, does it smell?

ernest_t_bass

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Feb 10, 2010 10:03pm

Sage wrote: If I think about robbing a bank, am I a bank robber? Or do I have to rob the bank?

If I sit and think about, and dream about, and wish to have sex with sheep, doesn't that make me a pervert, regardless of whether or not we play "just the tip?"

DeyDurkie5

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Feb 10, 2010 10:04pm

ernest_t_bass wrote:
Sage wrote: If I think about robbing a bank, am I a bank robber? Or do I have to rob the bank?
If I sit and think about, and dream about, and wish to have sex with sheep, doesn't that make me a pervert, regardless of whether or not we play "just the tip?"

actually yes, that in fact makes you a pervert

september63

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Feb 10, 2010 10:05pm

Sage wrote: If I think about robbing a bank, am I a bank robber? Or do I have to rob the bank?

Exactly!!

ernest_t_bass

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Feb 10, 2010 10:06pm

september63 wrote:
Sage wrote: If I think about robbing a bank, am I a bank robber? Or do I have to rob the bank?
Exactly!!

There's no "exactly" about it. We could throw out these arbitrary circumstances all night. If I do this, does this make me this, blah, blah, blah.

See post about sheep sex.

ernest_t_bass

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Feb 10, 2010 10:07pm

DeyDurkie5 wrote:actually yes, that in fact makes you a pervert

Um, I was talking about something that, um, snotbubbles told me.

Sage

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Feb 10, 2010 10:07pm

You might be a fucked up in the head, but you're not guilty of bestiality.

Thinking racist thoughts makes you prejudiced.

Acting on those thoughts makes you a racist.

ZWICK 4 PREZ

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Feb 10, 2010 10:16pm

Sage wrote: You might be a fucked up in the head, but you're not guilty of bestiality.

Thinking racist thoughts makes you prejudiced.

Acting on those thoughts makes you a racist.

How exactly do u act on a prejudiced thought? If I see a Muslim on a plane and think.."i wonder if he's gonna hijack it" .. that's a prejudiced thought.. but how would I act on that thought? So I'm not racist if I think that?