Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Feb 14, 2010 1:16pm
Yeah the people who are questioning dumping JJ Hickson, for Amare are killing me.
This move would make the Cavs much more dangerous, as Amare is twice the player JJ is at this point.
This move would make the Cavs much more dangerous, as Amare is twice the player JJ is at this point.
gibby08
Posts: 1,581
Feb 14, 2010 2:09pm
I still don't think they win a title even with A'mare.
Lakers are still the team to beat
I also don't think Shaq and A'mare will get aong and it will disrupt the chemistry of the team
Lakers are still the team to beat
I also don't think Shaq and A'mare will get aong and it will disrupt the chemistry of the team
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Feb 14, 2010 2:28pm
Haha. There are a few differences this time around. If you remember correctly, Cleveland has this guy named LeBron James... yeah he's pretty good. And Shaq was never going to work out in Phoenix. A big fat plodding center was never a good idea for the fast paced fun and gun they rungibby08 wrote: ... but there's no guarantee the Shaq & Amare pairing will succeed -- it failed in Phoenix, after all.
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Crimson_Streak
Posts: 172
Feb 14, 2010 2:29pm
i actually think the cavs match up with LA very well. when z and shaq are on the floor together there size really bothers bynum and gasol. so getting z back is a must. no one would be able to touch the cavs in the east if this trade goes down
gibby08
Posts: 1,581
Feb 14, 2010 2:35pm
^^^
If healthy.....
Boston would have something to say about that
If healthy.....
Boston would have something to say about that
jpake1
Posts: 2,389
Feb 14, 2010 2:41pm
I really hope Amare doesn't go to the Cavs. That'll be the next dynasty, and I won't get to see another Heat championship for a long time.
gibby08
Posts: 1,581
Feb 14, 2010 2:43pm
For some reason(not just trying to piss Cavs fans off)...I don't think this deal will happen and the Cvas will have to "settle" for Murphy or Jamison
gordo-those wern't my words...that was from rotoworld
gordo-those wern't my words...that was from rotoworld
2quik4u
Posts: 4,388
Feb 14, 2010 2:45pm
your fucking nutsgibby08 wrote: I still don't think they win a title even with A'mare.
Lakers are still the team to beat
I also don't think Shaq and A'mare will get aong and it will disrupt the chemistry of the team
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Feb 14, 2010 2:53pm
Charles Barkley said it best...old people don't get healthy, old people die. The Cavs already have shown they can beat the Lakers and Magic(the two threats in my mind to keep the title out of cleveland, barring injury to LBJ). If the Cavs get STAT this board will explode with happy Cavs fans and jealous trollsgibby08 wrote: ^^^
If healthy.....
Boston would have something to say about that
jpake1
Posts: 2,389
Feb 14, 2010 2:58pm
I'd say its 40% Cavs , 30% Suns, 25% Heat, and 5% other. Amare is thinking about sticking with his contract, which will allow the Suns to hold onto him next year and then trade him. But if they really do want to get rid of him I believe it'll be the Cavs. Miami is more reluctant to take on JRich than the Cavs are. Plus, the salary is a bit better with the Cavs because of Z's buyout and JJ's smaller contract compared to Beasley.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Feb 14, 2010 3:00pm
If the Cavs get Amar'e, they are instantly the team to beat, if they're not already.gibby08 wrote: I still don't think they win a title even with A'mare.
Lakers are still the team to beat
I also don't think Shaq and A'mare will get aong and it will disrupt the chemistry of the team
gibby08
Posts: 1,581
Feb 14, 2010 3:01pm
So I'm nuts because I think the Lakers will still win??2quik4u wrote:your fucking nutsgibby08 wrote: I still don't think they win a title even with A'mare.
Lakers are still the team to beat
I also don't think Shaq and A'mare will get aong and it will disrupt the chemistry of the team
I never said they "can't" win ...I just don't think they will
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Feb 14, 2010 3:02pm
Amare wants to win championships...Dan Gilbert doesn't mind paying people. He comes here, him and LBJ sign new deals and everyone is happy. Is Richardson hurt? Im not sure I understand why a team wouldn't want him as part of a deal. I know he has a stupid contract and once again this plays into the Cavs favor.
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Feb 14, 2010 3:03pm
This. Lebron is the best player in the league and STAT is one of the best forwards in the league. Mo Williams is going to have the easiest job in the world. Still hope they somehow get some depth at guard though, Delontes situation scares me.se-alum wrote:If the Cavs get Amar'e, they are instantly the team to beat, if they're not already.gibby08 wrote: I still don't think they win a title even with A'mare.
Lakers are still the team to beat
I also don't think Shaq and A'mare will get aong and it will disrupt the chemistry of the team
gibby08
Posts: 1,581
Feb 14, 2010 3:04pm
se-alum wrote:If the Cavs get Amar'e, they are instantly the team to beat, if they're not already.gibby08 wrote: I still don't think they win a title even with A'mare.
Lakers are still the team to beat
I also don't think Shaq and A'mare will get aong and it will disrupt the chemistry of the team
I've always been under the impression that the defending champs are the team to beat until they lose.
Maybe the thought process has changed....but that's still the way I think
gibby08
Posts: 1,581
Feb 14, 2010 3:05pm
That is debateablebases_loaded wrote:This. Lebron is the best player in the league and STAT is one of the best forwards in the league. Mo Williams is going to have the easiest job in the world. Still hope they somehow get some depth at guard though, Delontes situation scares me.se-alum wrote:If the Cavs get Amar'e, they are instantly the team to beat, if they're not already.gibby08 wrote: I still don't think they win a title even with A'mare.
Lakers are still the team to beat
I also don't think Shaq and A'mare will get aong and it will disrupt the chemistry of the team
RedRider1
Posts: 3,850
Feb 14, 2010 3:05pm
Hate to give up JJ....but it's about winning now...and there's nothing JJ can do that Amare can't.
JJ has been a benefactor of double teams on Shaq and Lebron...he's simply a high energy finisher....much like Varejao in his first few years.....with JJ having a slightly better jumpshot.
JJ might be an all-star in a few years...but the Cavs dont have the luxury to wait.
Gotta make deals that make you instantly better....there's no more playing for the future...unfortunately.
JJ has been a benefactor of double teams on Shaq and Lebron...he's simply a high energy finisher....much like Varejao in his first few years.....with JJ having a slightly better jumpshot.
JJ might be an all-star in a few years...but the Cavs dont have the luxury to wait.
Gotta make deals that make you instantly better....there's no more playing for the future...unfortunately.
2quik4u
Posts: 4,388
Feb 14, 2010 3:07pm
mo>>>> fishergibby08 wrote:So I'm nuts because I think the Lakers will still win??2quik4u wrote:your fucking nutsgibby08 wrote: I still don't think they win a title even with A'mare.
Lakers are still the team to beat
I also don't think Shaq and A'mare will get aong and it will disrupt the chemistry of the team
I never said they "can't" win ...I just don't think they will
parker<<<< kobe
Lebron>>>> Artest
A'mare=Gasol
Shaq>>> Bynum
Cav's bench>>>>>>> Lakers bench
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mallymal614
Posts: 3,746
Feb 14, 2010 3:07pm
I have a feeling Danny Ainge has something up his sleeves. I been hearing Celtics trade rumors that last few weeks. If he shocked us bringing in Garnett and Allen, don't be shock if he does something similar before the deadline to counter the Cavs trade.
gibby08
Posts: 1,581
Feb 14, 2010 3:09pm
That's your opinion....but I happen to think your wrong2quik4u wrote:mo>>>> fishergibby08 wrote:So I'm nuts because I think the Lakers will still win??2quik4u wrote:your fucking nutsgibby08 wrote: I still don't think they win a title even with A'mare.
Lakers are still the team to beat
I also don't think Shaq and A'mare will get aong and it will disrupt the chemistry of the team
I never said they "can't" win ...I just don't think they will
parker<<<< kobe
Lebron>>>> Artest
A'mare=Gasol
Shaq>>> Bynum
Cav's bench>>>>>>> Lakers bench
You also forgot to factor in perhaps the biggest piece of the puzzle:
Phil Jackson>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mike Brown
jpake1
Posts: 2,389
Feb 14, 2010 3:10pm
The Celtics have called about Amare. I don't see anything there though. Good post redrider. My thoughts exactly.
ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Feb 14, 2010 3:10pm
No...it's not.gibby08 wrote: That is debateable
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Feb 14, 2010 3:11pm
I've always found that to be the stupidest argument out there. With free agency, every year is a new year. Teams lose players, other teams get better.gibby08 wrote:se-alum wrote:If the Cavs get Amar'e, they are instantly the team to beat, if they're not already.gibby08 wrote: I still don't think they win a title even with A'mare.
Lakers are still the team to beat
I also don't think Shaq and A'mare will get aong and it will disrupt the chemistry of the team
I've always been under the impression that the defending champs are the team to beat until they lose.
Maybe the thought process has changed....but that's still the way I think
gibby08
Posts: 1,581
Feb 14, 2010 3:12pm
^^^
Which is exactly what LA did
ytown---yea.....it is
Rumors are that Boston are in talks to get Gerald Wallace AND Antwan Jamison. If they get those two....it would pretty much negate the Cavs getting A'mare
Which is exactly what LA did
ytown---yea.....it is
Rumors are that Boston are in talks to get Gerald Wallace AND Antwan Jamison. If they get those two....it would pretty much negate the Cavs getting A'mare
Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Feb 14, 2010 3:14pm
Agreed. Lebron is clearly the best in the world right now.ytownfootball wrote:No...it's not.gibby08 wrote: That is debateable
Kobe may be a better winner, leader than Lebron is at this point
But when it comes to the best player, it's Lebron, and really it's not even close.