I Wear Pants wrote:

tcarrier32 wrote: not even close. and he's not a piece of shit either. thats just a dumb comment

He drove drunk, that alone makes him a douchebag and an idiot. Combine that with a dead guy and you get a piece of shit.

But he certainly isn't a murderer.

vball10set wrote: no--he made a stupid decision to drink and drive,but he did not go out with the intention a killing someone,which IMO is the definition of a "murderer"

DeyDurkie5 wrote: lol I would love to see people on here at .12 BAC and see how "drunk" they are

rydawg5 wrote:

I Wear Pants wrote:

tcarrier32 wrote: not even close. and he's not a piece of shit either. thats just a dumb comment

He drove drunk, that alone makes him a douchebag and an idiot. Combine that with a dead guy and you get a piece of shit.

But he certainly isn't a murderer.

A big list of douchebags and idiots if you count all the DUIs in the world.

I Wear Pants wrote: Not a murderer but a huge piece of shit who deserved a lot longer sentence.

dwccrew wrote:

DeyDurkie5 wrote: lol I would love to see people on here at .12 BAC and see how "drunk" they are

What's your point? It's still a bad decision to drive.

DeyDurkie5 wrote:

dwccrew wrote:

DeyDurkie5 wrote: lol I would love to see people on here at .12 BAC and see how "drunk" they are

What's your point? It's still a bad decision to drive.

What if two beers got him to that point? Would two beers affect you in a way that would alter your driving skills, no it wouldn't

dwccrew wrote:

DeyDurkie5 wrote:

dwccrew wrote:

DeyDurkie5 wrote: lol I would love to see people on here at .12 BAC and see how "drunk" they are

What's your point? It's still a bad decision to drive.

What if two beers got him to that point? Would two beers affect you in a way that would alter your driving skills, no it wouldn't

So you want to play the "what if" game? It wasn't 2 beers. He admitted to drinking several shots. And yes, when your BAC is at .12, you may not be shitfaced, but your vision and reaction time is impaired.

2 beers? LOL, a man his size wouldn't have a .12 BAC off two beers, it would take more alcohol than that.

UA5straightin2008 wrote: in his defense, and from what i remember correctly, it was the morning after he had been out doing some heavy drinking

he had the sense not to drive the night before and booked a hotel room and stayed there the night and woke up the next morning thinking he was fine

i know ive woken up the morning after still a little drunk, but i dont realize it right at first because i assume a night of sleep would have sobered me up, until i do something boneheaded

as for his sentencing:

he made a deal with the family

the family looked at it like this: you killed my father...

A) you go to jail for a long time for killing him (father is still not coming back)

B) you go to jail for a short time for killing him, and you pay me millions (yeah my father wont be coming back, but at least this will change my life for the better)

Stallworth said he met fellow Cleveland Browns wide receiver Braylon Edwards and other friends at a Miami Beach club the night before the accident. Stallworth told police he drank the tequila, went to his condo for a nap and then headed out for breakfast when the vehicle he was driving hit Reyes.

Stallworth's blood-alcohol was .126, well above Florida's legal limit of .08 when he hit Reyes.

DaBrowns41 wrote: It would have happened whether he was drunk or not. Problem is, he's more responsible because he was over the BAC limit, and that's what got him into trouble.

He handled everything the right way though. He was very apologetic, he meant no harm, and he immediately got out of the car to help the man and call an ambulance.

Compare to that Plaxico trying to pay off nurses to not document his visit to the hospital, lying to federal officials, etc. and he looks like a Saint. (no pun intended)

dwccrew wrote:

DaBrowns41 wrote: It would have happened whether he was drunk or not. Problem is, he's more responsible because he was over the BAC limit, and that's what got him into trouble.

He handled everything the right way though. He was very apologetic, he meant no harm, and he immediately got out of the car to help the man and call an ambulance.

Compare to that Plaxico trying to pay off nurses to not document his visit to the hospital, lying to federal officials, etc. and he looks like a Saint. (no pun intended)

Not sure if it would have happened or not. That is something we'll never know. But you are right, he handled it properly.

DaBrowns41 wrote:

dwccrew wrote:

DaBrowns41 wrote: It would have happened whether he was drunk or not. Problem is, he's more responsible because he was over the BAC limit, and that's what got him into trouble.

He handled everything the right way though. He was very apologetic, he meant no harm, and he immediately got out of the car to help the man and call an ambulance.

Compare to that Plaxico trying to pay off nurses to not document his visit to the hospital, lying to federal officials, etc. and he looks like a Saint. (no pun intended)

Not sure if it would have happened or not. That is something we'll never know. But you are right, he handled it properly.

That may have been a little naive of me to say, but, IMO, I think that it most likely would have happened. It's dark, hard to see, and the last thing you expect is a guy crossing a 4 lane highway.

You're right, in that we'll never know. It's all speculation.

I Wear Pants wrote:

tcarrier32 wrote: not even close. and he's not a piece of shit either. thats just a dumb comment

He drove drunk, that alone makes him a douchebag and an idiot. Combine that with a dead guy and you get a piece of shit.

But he certainly isn't a murderer.

2quik4u wrote:

UA5straightin2008 wrote: in his defense, and from what i remember correctly, it was the morning after he had been out doing some heavy drinking

he had the sense not to drive the night before and booked a hotel room and stayed there the night and woke up the next morning thinking he was fine

i know ive woken up the morning after still a little drunk, but i dont realize it right at first because i assume a night of sleep would have sobered me up, until i do something boneheaded

as for his sentencing:

he made a deal with the family

the family looked at it like this: you killed my father...

A) you go to jail for a long time for killing him (father is still not coming back)

B) you go to jail for a short time for killing him, and you pay me millions (yeah my father wont be coming back, but at least this will change my life for the better)

i thought they got 250 g's