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RiverRat13
Posts: 377
Jan 9, 2010 8:19pm
A WR and a TE. I think a legit TE would make a world of difference, especially on a team committed to the run.jordo212000 wrote: The Bengals aren't drafting a QB haha (at least in the first few rounds). There's about $100 million reasons why.
They made the playoffs. They're going to be fine. Get some more depth and get another WR and all will be fine
sherm03
Posts: 7,349
Jan 9, 2010 8:20pm
I love the people calling for Graham's head.
How about Palmer's 18/36 performance...or his 58.3 passer rating.
How about the fact that Johnson and Coles had some huge drops.
All of that is forgiven but Graham's 6 points in a 10 point loss are reason enough for people to call for his head? Sounds good to me.
How about Palmer's 18/36 performance...or his 58.3 passer rating.
How about the fact that Johnson and Coles had some huge drops.
All of that is forgiven but Graham's 6 points in a 10 point loss are reason enough for people to call for his head? Sounds good to me.
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DaBrowns41
Posts: 1,304
Jan 9, 2010 8:20pm
I disagree. Until you can consistently beat good teams, you won't be a playoff caliber team.jordo212000 wrote: The Bengals aren't drafting a QB haha (at least in the first few rounds). There's about $100 million reasons why.
They made the playoffs. They're going to be fine. Get some more depth and get another WR and all will be fine
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mhs95_06
Posts: 8,167
Jan 9, 2010 8:21pm
Winning your division is a lock to get to the playoffs, so all those games are big, and those go the furthest in winning your division which should always be a primary goal.DaBrowns41 wrote:What big games early? The only big game you guys won was against the Packers, and that was in week 2. A mediocre Denver team doesn't count as a big game, neither do victories over Pittsburgh. I'll give you Baltimore because Baltimore is solid.mhs95_06 wrote: But the Browns were 4-2 vs. the rest of the AFC. The Bengals won the big games early, going 6-0 in the division which they mostly played early in the season. The Bengals had those six important games, and then two other important ones late in the season when they were decimated by injuries, one the heartbreaking loss at SD when they were playing for the inside track on the first round bye in the playoffs, and then today.
Injuries are a part of the game. But Carson Palmer was a bigger issue than injuries.
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Jan 9, 2010 8:22pm
What you just said makes no sense with what I just said. What do you disagree about?DaBrowns41 wrote:I disagree. Until you can consistently beat good teams, you won't be a playoff caliber team.jordo212000 wrote: The Bengals aren't drafting a QB haha (at least in the first few rounds). There's about $100 million reasons why.
They made the playoffs. They're going to be fine. Get some more depth and get another WR and all will be fine
How can you not be playoff caliber.... after you just made the playoffs? haha
Scarlet_Fever
Posts: 736
Jan 9, 2010 8:22pm
I find this hilarious coming from a guy named named DaBrowns.DaBrowns41 wrote:I disagree. Until you can consistently beat good teams, you won't be a playoff caliber team.jordo212000 wrote: The Bengals aren't drafting a QB haha (at least in the first few rounds). There's about $100 million reasons why.
They made the playoffs. They're going to be fine. Get some more depth and get another WR and all will be fine
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DaBrowns41
Posts: 1,304
Jan 9, 2010 8:23pm
Key word being "consistently". And by playoff caliber team, I mean actually win games in the playoffs.jordo212000 wrote:What you just said makes no sense with what I just said. What do you disagree about?DaBrowns41 wrote:I disagree. Until you can consistently beat good teams, you won't be a playoff caliber team.jordo212000 wrote: The Bengals aren't drafting a QB haha (at least in the first few rounds). There's about $100 million reasons why.
They made the playoffs. They're going to be fine. Get some more depth and get another WR and all will be fine
How can you not be playoff caliber.... after you just made the playoffs? haha
What's the use if you just make the playoffs all the time and never win?
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Jan 9, 2010 8:23pm
Even more hilarious is that he doesn't think the Bengals are playoff caliber. Mind you, they just made the playoffs hahaScarlet_Fever wrote: I find this hilarious coming from a guy named named DaBrowns.
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mhs95_06
Posts: 8,167
Jan 9, 2010 8:24pm
I disagree. You don't need to consistently beat good teams to be a "playoff caliber" team. But you do have to, to be able to advance deep in the playoffs!DaBrowns41 wrote:I disagree. Until you can consistently beat good teams, you won't be a playoff caliber team.jordo212000 wrote: The Bengals aren't drafting a QB haha (at least in the first few rounds). There's about $100 million reasons why.
They made the playoffs. They're going to be fine. Get some more depth and get another WR and all will be fine
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DaBrowns41
Posts: 1,304
Jan 9, 2010 8:24pm
I'll agree about the division. I'm just saying that this division isn't as tough as it has been in recent years.mhs95_06 wrote:Winning your division is a lock to get to the playoffs, so all those games are big, and those go the furthest in winning your division which should always be a primary goal.DaBrowns41 wrote:What big games early? The only big game you guys won was against the Packers, and that was in week 2. A mediocre Denver team doesn't count as a big game, neither do victories over Pittsburgh. I'll give you Baltimore because Baltimore is solid.mhs95_06 wrote: But the Browns were 4-2 vs. the rest of the AFC. The Bengals won the big games early, going 6-0 in the division which they mostly played early in the season. The Bengals had those six important games, and then two other important ones late in the season when they were decimated by injuries, one the heartbreaking loss at SD when they were playing for the inside track on the first round bye in the playoffs, and then today.
Injuries are a part of the game. But Carson Palmer was a bigger issue than injuries.
But if you want to be a good team, you have to beat other good teams, which you guys struggle with.
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RiverRat13
Posts: 377
Jan 9, 2010 8:25pm
Graham has failed to come through in the clutch in multiple occasions. And if he hits either one of those, it is a different ballgame (down one score instead of two). If he hits them both, the Bengals still may not win but to simply say he only cost 6 points in a 10 point game is misguided.sherm03 wrote:
All of that is forgiven but Graham's 6 points in a 10 point loss are reason enough for people to call for his head? Sounds good to me.
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DaBrowns41
Posts: 1,304
Jan 9, 2010 8:25pm
Er... Ok?Scarlet_Fever wrote:I find this hilarious coming from a guy named named DaBrowns.DaBrowns41 wrote:I disagree. Until you can consistently beat good teams, you won't be a playoff caliber team.jordo212000 wrote: The Bengals aren't drafting a QB haha (at least in the first few rounds). There's about $100 million reasons why.
They made the playoffs. They're going to be fine. Get some more depth and get another WR and all will be fine
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Jan 9, 2010 8:26pm
Baby steps chief. A win would have been nice, but they seem headed in the right direction. Hopefully they can build on this experience.DaBrowns41 wrote:
What's the use if you just make the playoffs all the time and never win?
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DaBrowns41
Posts: 1,304
Jan 9, 2010 8:26pm
If you can't beat good teams, then how do you know if you can beat playoff teams?mhs95_06 wrote:I disagree. You don't need to consistently beat good teams to be a "playoff caliber" team. But you do have to, to be able to advance deep in the playoffs!DaBrowns41 wrote:I disagree. Until you can consistently beat good teams, you won't be a playoff caliber team.jordo212000 wrote: The Bengals aren't drafting a QB haha (at least in the first few rounds). There's about $100 million reasons why.
They made the playoffs. They're going to be fine. Get some more depth and get another WR and all will be fine
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Jan 9, 2010 8:27pm
Yeah you can't just look at the points. The game is probably much different if those FGs are made. Especially towards the end of the game.RiverRat13 wrote:Graham has failed to come through in the clutch in multiple occasions. And if he hits either one of those, it is a different ballgame (down one score instead of two). If he hits them both, the Bengals still may not win but to simply say he only cost 6 points in a 10 point game is misguided.sherm03 wrote:
All of that is forgiven but Graham's 6 points in a 10 point loss are reason enough for people to call for his head? Sounds good to me.
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DaBrowns41
Posts: 1,304
Jan 9, 2010 8:27pm
The 2002 Browns and the 2007 Browns seemed to be making progression too...jordo212000 wrote:Baby steps chief. A win would have been nice, but they seem headed in the right direction. Hopefully they can build on this experience.DaBrowns41 wrote:
What's the use if you just make the playoffs all the time and never win?
You guys think that I'm just trying to be a douche bag, and I'm actually just expressing my opinion respectfully.
Just because I'm a Browns fan doesn't mean I can't have a legit conversation with fans from rival teams. So don't get all pissy with me because you're having a rough day.
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mhs95_06
Posts: 8,167
Jan 9, 2010 8:29pm
The Bengals are set-up to make money. If you can keep the locals' interest enough by just making the playoffs every few years with the revenue sharing, and get the taxpayers to finance alot of your expenses, you're owners are in the catbird seat!
Hesston
Posts: 516
Jan 9, 2010 8:30pm
I'm not a Bengal hater, would have liked to see them win today but one thing for sure I can't stand Carson Palmer or his alma matre
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Jan 9, 2010 8:30pm
How am I being "pissy" When you say that a team isn't playoff caliber, and that team just made the playoffs, you are going to attract some attention. (I know you backpedaled from that statement and said you meant something else).DaBrowns41 wrote:
You guys think that I'm just trying to be a douche bag, and I'm actually just expressing my opinion respectfully.
Just because I'm a Browns fan doesn't mean I can't have a legit conversation with fans from rival teams. So don't get all pissy with me because you're having a rough day.
Believe me I'm not one of those fans who go crazy when their team loses. I was actually expecting them to lose. They're probably a year away
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DaBrowns41
Posts: 1,304
Jan 9, 2010 8:32pm
I really think that Palmer's inconsistency is holding back the offense, and obviously the loss of Chris Henry didn't help the WR situation.
I'm really liking what they did with the OL, however, with rotating Andre Smith in there on specific run plays. He'll be a force in a few years.
I'm really liking what they did with the OL, however, with rotating Andre Smith in there on specific run plays. He'll be a force in a few years.
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DaBrowns41
Posts: 1,304
Jan 9, 2010 8:34pm
A playoff caliber team, IMO, is a team that can beat good football teams and compete in the playoffs.jordo212000 wrote:How am I being "pissy" When you say that a team isn't playoff caliber, and that team just made the playoffs, you are going to attract some attention. (I know you backpedaled from that statement and said you meant something else).DaBrowns41 wrote:
You guys think that I'm just trying to be a douche bag, and I'm actually just expressing my opinion respectfully.
Just because I'm a Browns fan doesn't mean I can't have a legit conversation with fans from rival teams. So don't get all pissy with me because you're having a rough day.
Believe me I'm not one of those fans who go crazy when their team loses. I was actually expecting them to lose. They're probably a year away
IMO, Cincy was the worst team in the AFC playoff bracket. I think Houston would have given the Jets a better game.
But Cincy did their jobs and won the division, and you can't ask for much else.
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mhs95_06
Posts: 8,167
Jan 9, 2010 8:34pm
You don't! That is the fun of the playoffs, seeing if you can. I think they might have been able to beat some if they didn't have a disproportionate amount of key, season ending(and some being the last playing of their lfe) injuries!DaBrowns41 wrote:If you can't beat good teams, then how do you know if you can beat playoff teams?mhs95_06 wrote:I disagree. You don't need to consistently beat good teams to be a "playoff caliber" team. But you do have to, to be able to advance deep in the playoffs!DaBrowns41 wrote:I disagree. Until you can consistently beat good teams, you won't be a playoff caliber team.jordo212000 wrote: The Bengals aren't drafting a QB haha (at least in the first few rounds). There's about $100 million reasons why.
They made the playoffs. They're going to be fine. Get some more depth and get another WR and all will be fine
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mhs95_06
Posts: 8,167
Jan 9, 2010 8:39pm
A year away! That's what I'm talking about, getting to the playoffs every few years just makes up another dose of Kool-Aide to keep the money maker alive and well! It would have really been not good for the Bengals, with the economy the way it is, to be out of the race early, so they got their infrequent competetive playoff season at a perfect time!jordo212000 wrote:How am I being "pissy" When you say that a team isn't playoff caliber, and that team just made the playoffs, you are going to attract some attention. (I know you backpedaled from that statement and said you meant something else).DaBrowns41 wrote:
You guys think that I'm just trying to be a douche bag, and I'm actually just expressing my opinion respectfully.
Just because I'm a Browns fan doesn't mean I can't have a legit conversation with fans from rival teams. So don't get all pissy with me because you're having a rough day.
Believe me I'm not one of those fans who go crazy when their team loses. I was actually expecting them to lose. They're probably a year away
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Al Capone
Posts: 1,727
Jan 9, 2010 8:40pm
AFC NORTH 2010
1.STEELERS 12-4
2.RAVENS 10-6
3.BROWNS 6-10
4.bungals 5-11
1.STEELERS 12-4
2.RAVENS 10-6
3.BROWNS 6-10
4.bungals 5-11
osu45804
Posts: 6,188
Jan 9, 2010 8:42pm
Sucks being a Bengals fan right now, But I was very impressed w/ the turn around from last year... I don't think we were all healthy except for weeks 1-3 or something like that. Bengals need a deep threat WR to take the pressure off Chad/Coles b/c Caldwell goes over the middle a lot and has done a good job at it. Draft a TE unless they think Chase Daniels can do something next year. And just hope the Defense is healthy next year... WHO DEY!!