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Jan 9, 2010 2:51 PM
^^^^^
Explain to us ol Wise one.
Enlighten me about the game.lol
Jan 9, 2010 2:51pm
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buckeyes_woowee

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Jan 9, 2010 2:53 PM
I believe you will see alot more Heyward at DT. He projects more as a DT in the NFL. Larimore and Simon would be in front of him. IMO he would compete with Goebel for playing time. Also don't sleep on Adam Bellamy
Jan 9, 2010 2:53pm
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Jan 9, 2010 2:54 PM
rocket31 wrote:
buckeyes_woowee wrote: Well Floyd wouldn't get alot of playing time net year at OSU
he might have been the best DT on the ohio state roster.
Eh he would be good but he would still be behind Larimore and Simon. But at OSU they rotate so much on the DL he would have saw plenty of PT. It would have been nice to get both Floyd and Hankins to push each other though.

Right now Simon is the best DT at OSU and he will only get better. The guy is very strong and will be a very good DT for the next 3 years AA imo.
Jan 9, 2010 2:54pm
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Jan 9, 2010 2:54 PM
LOL, if anyone thinks that rocket is wrong about Floyd maybe being the best DT on OSU's roster next year then you fall in one of two categories:

1. Someone who thinks that just because the guy isn't an OSU fan you know more than he does--not necessarily true.
2. You're salty about Floyd going to Florida so you don't want to admit how good he might be now.

I agree with rocket. He said MIGHT anyways. It's not like we don't have some good talent. I'm excited about Hankins and John Simon may be an All American someday (I said he would be when he was at Mooney, hope I was right).
Jan 9, 2010 2:54pm
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Jan 9, 2010 2:58 PM
devil1197 wrote:
Right now Simon is the best DT at OSU and he will only get better. The guy is very strong and will be a very good DT for the next 3 years AA imo.
i agree simon will be a beast, but like you said floyd would have definitely seen some PT. he is man-handling the offensive line today.

i would have rather ohio state gotten him than florida, fwiw.
Jan 9, 2010 2:58pm
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buckeyes_woowee

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Jan 9, 2010 3:00 PM
No question Floyd is good, I'm just saying he will get alot more pt at Florida next year then he would at OSU. He might start at Florida
Jan 9, 2010 3:00pm
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Jan 9, 2010 3:01 PM
rocket31 wrote:
devil1197 wrote:
Right now Simon is the best DT at OSU and he will only get better. The guy is very strong and will be a very good DT for the next 3 years AA imo.
i agree simon will be a beast, but like you said floyd would have definitely seen some PT. he is man-handling the offensive line today.

i would have rather ohio state gotten him than florida, fwiw.
Oh me too but I am not going to the bathroom to cut my wrists like some OSU fans.

Hankins will be good imo. He has stayed under the radar but had offers from OSU, Bama, and UF along with UM and some other B10 schools. He will hit the strength/conditioning program at OSU and drop some LB's, add muscle, and then quickness.
Jan 9, 2010 3:01pm
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Jan 9, 2010 3:01 PM
He's still playing against high school guys today.

I'm sure he'll be in the rotation next year as a freshman but might not start.
Jan 9, 2010 3:01pm
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Jan 9, 2010 3:04 PM
Non wrote: He's still playing against high school guys today.

I'm sure he'll be in the rotation next year as a freshman but might not start.
Point is, you have to assume he's going to be a stud. They don't make 18 year olds like him often--mark my words, OSU just missed out on a Casey Hampton type player. And yeah, he is playing against high school kids--but he is also a high school kid. He's competing right now at the highest level he's eligible for--what makes you think he won't be able to do that at the next level.
Jan 9, 2010 3:04pm
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devil1197

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Jan 9, 2010 3:07 PM
Like I said, will losing Floyd hurt OSU probably not. They will just get another guy in next years recruiting class.

We will be one of the best defenses in the nation next year along with one of the Top 5 teams. OSU is a very deep team and the recruiting process isn't even over yet.
Jan 9, 2010 3:07pm
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Jan 9, 2010 3:08 PM
I'm still not sure if Dunlap is leaving Florida, pretty sure he is.
Florida's Def. front = Easley, Orr, Floyd, and in a few minutes, Powell.

A whole handful of 5 star players who want to play with other great players

Jan 9, 2010 3:08pm
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elbuckeye28

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Jan 9, 2010 3:08 PM
Why do we struggle getting top DTs, but don't struggle with any other defensive position?
Jan 9, 2010 3:08pm
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Preacher

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Jan 9, 2010 3:08 PM
watch it you don't know what your talking about.lol
Jan 9, 2010 3:08pm
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Jan 9, 2010 3:08 PM
It can't hurt you. You can't lose something you never had--point is, it would have HELPED OSU to get him. Why is this all about next year? He could have anchored that defense for the 3 years after next year.
Jan 9, 2010 3:08pm
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Jan 9, 2010 3:09 PM
SQ_Crazies wrote:
Non wrote: He's still playing against high school guys today.

I'm sure he'll be in the rotation next year as a freshman but might not start.
Point is, you have to assume he's going to be a stud. They don't make 18 year olds like him often--mark my words, OSU just missed out on a Casey Hampton type player. And yeah, he is playing against high school kids--but he is also a high school kid. He's competing right now at the highest level he's eligible for--what makes you think he won't be able to do that at the next level.
He's going to face a lot better lineman and schemes in the SEC. Just because he's making a lot of plays today doesn't mean he's going to tear up like this as a freshman in college. I think he'll get some reps in the d-line rotation and make some plays but won't dominate until probably sophomore year and beyond.
Jan 9, 2010 3:09pm
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buckeyes_woowee

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Jan 9, 2010 3:11 PM
I made my orginal comment about playing time as a response to someone mentioning next year. It doesn't help the depth of the future but OSU will get other guys that will be just as productive
Jan 9, 2010 3:11pm
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Jan 9, 2010 3:12 PM
Non wrote:
SQ_Crazies wrote:
Non wrote: He's still playing against high school guys today.

I'm sure he'll be in the rotation next year as a freshman but might not start.
Point is, you have to assume he's going to be a stud. They don't make 18 year olds like him often--mark my words, OSU just missed out on a Casey Hampton type player. And yeah, he is playing against high school kids--but he is also a high school kid. He's competing right now at the highest level he's eligible for--what makes you think he won't be able to do that at the next level.
He's going to face a lot better lineman and schemes in the SEC. Just because he's making a lot of plays today doesn't mean he's going to tear up like this as a freshman in college. I think he'll get some reps in the d-line rotation and make some plays but won't dominate until probably sophomore year and beyond.
LOL, why is this discussion about his freshman year and freshman year only? Who gives a fuck about next year with this kid, anything he does next year is just icing on the cake. He's going to be a bad MFer in his career at Florida.
Jan 9, 2010 3:12pm
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Jan 9, 2010 3:13 PM
I was also responding to next year because somebody said he'll be the best next year.

I'm not going to argue that he'll be good at some point, just not ready to get carried away with him making plays in this game like it will always be this easy.
Jan 9, 2010 3:13pm
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Jan 9, 2010 3:14 PM
Speedofsand wrote: I'm still not sure if Dunlap is leaving Florida, pretty sure he is.
Florida's Def. front = Easley, Orr, Floyd, and in a few minutes, Powell.

A whole handful of 5 star players who want to play with other great players

And a whole lot of folks who have been repeatedly lied to by a coach who could give a shit about anything other than getting their name on a letter of intent.
Jan 9, 2010 3:14pm
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Jan 9, 2010 3:15 PM
SQ_Crazies wrote:
Non wrote:
SQ_Crazies wrote:
Non wrote: He's still playing against high school guys today.

I'm sure he'll be in the rotation next year as a freshman but might not start.
Point is, you have to assume he's going to be a stud. They don't make 18 year olds like him often--mark my words, OSU just missed out on a Casey Hampton type player. And yeah, he is playing against high school kids--but he is also a high school kid. He's competing right now at the highest level he's eligible for--what makes you think he won't be able to do that at the next level.
He's going to face a lot better lineman and schemes in the SEC. Just because he's making a lot of plays today doesn't mean he's going to tear up like this as a freshman in college. I think he'll get some reps in the d-line rotation and make some plays but won't dominate until probably sophomore year and beyond.
LOL, why is this discussion about his freshman year and freshman year only? Who gives a fuck about next year with this kid, anything he does next year is just icing on the cake. He's going to be a bad MFer in his career at Florida.
Man you are really nut hugging this guy haha
Jan 9, 2010 3:15pm
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Jan 9, 2010 3:16 PM
Non wrote: I was also responding to next year because somebody said he'll be the best next year.

I'm not going to argue that he'll be good at some point, just not ready to get carried away with him making plays in this game like it will always be this easy.
I don't think anyone is basing it totally off this game, but considering the game is currently being played and it's the first time 99% of the people here have seen him play what else should they base it on? People have said the same things about him all year based on what scouts said and that wasn't even against other All American's. I mean what you're saying you could say about any one in the game, you're pretty much dismissing any discussion about it, which I don't really understand.
Jan 9, 2010 3:16pm
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Jan 9, 2010 3:18 PM
buckeyes_woowee wrote: Man you are really nut hugging this guy haha
LOL, prime example of why I haven't spent much time on this site lately.
Jan 9, 2010 3:18pm
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buckeyes_woowee

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Jan 9, 2010 3:19 PM
I'm just saying he is a great player but I don't understand the love affair for him. OSU will be fine without him.
Jan 9, 2010 3:19pm
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Jan 9, 2010 3:21 PM
buckeyes_woowee wrote: I'm just saying he is a great player but I don't understand the love affair for him. OSU will be fine without him.
What the fuck are you talking about?

So if I said: Kobe Bryant is a great player, he's a stud and he's going to help whatever team he is on. That's a love affair and I'm nut hugging? When have I said that OSU wouldn't be fine without him?
Jan 9, 2010 3:21pm
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Jan 9, 2010 3:22 PM
SQ_Crazies wrote:
Non wrote: I was also responding to next year because somebody said he'll be the best next year.

I'm not going to argue that he'll be good at some point, just not ready to get carried away with him making plays in this game like it will always be this easy.
I don't think anyone is basing it totally off this game, but considering the game is currently being played and it's the first time 99% of the people here have seen him play what else should they base it on? People have said the same things about him all year based on what scouts said and that wasn't even against other All American's. I mean what you're saying you could say about any one in the game, you're pretty much dismissing any discussion about it, which I don't really understand.

I think most are basing it off this one game because it's the first time he's on TV and you get enamored. But how many of these games have we all watched? I'm sure a lot.

You can't get too carried away and start saying that every college team should beware this guy is coming. Very few come in and dominate as freshman.
Jan 9, 2010 3:22pm