wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Oct 2, 2017 3:28pm
He gave the times. It was a little after 10 when the first call came in and 11:20 when they breached the room.justincredible;1874550 wrote:An hour and 12 minutes? That can't be right, can it?
He also said that it wasn't known (or at least he didn't know) when the shots stopped compared to the breach of the room.
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Oct 2, 2017 3:29pm
We're they unable to determine where the shots were coming from? I guess that would add some time, but it doesn't seem like it should have taken that long.wildcats20;1874555 wrote:He gave the times. It was a little after 10 when the first call came in and 11:20 when they breached the room.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Oct 2, 2017 3:31pm
And...not sure if this is going to be true or not...but a guy I follow on twitter out in LA retweeted a USC faculty member's tweet...
https://twitter.com/ruffmark/status/914932524412944384
https://twitter.com/ruffmark/status/914932524412944384
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Oct 2, 2017 3:37pm
A "shelter in place" request has been made for USC campus.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Oct 2, 2017 3:52pm
USC police now saying no active shooter.
salto
Posts: 2,611
Oct 2, 2017 4:08pm
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-usc-shots-fired-call-20171002-story.html
Reports of shooting on USC campus prompt lockdown, heavy LAPD response
Reports of shooting on USC campus prompt lockdown, heavy LAPD response
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friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
Oct 2, 2017 9:24pm
I wasn't sure which thread to post this on (why do we have two again?)
http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/02/cbs-legal-exec-no-sympathy-because-country-music-fans-often-are-republican/
http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/02/cbs-legal-exec-no-sympathy-because-country-music-fans-often-are-republican/
It's amazing the dumb shit people say, especially the ones with high profile jobs.[FONT="]A top legal executive at CBS, Hayley Geftman-Gold, said she “is not even sympathetic” for the victims of the shooting at a country music festival at Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas Sunday night.
[/FONT][FONT="]“If they wouldn’t do anything when children were murdered I have no hope that Repugs will ever do the right thing,” wrote Geftman-Gold on Facebook, perhaps referring to Sandy Hook. “I’m actually not even sympathetic bc country music fans often are Republican gun toters.” [/FONT][FONT="]Later Monday, [/FONT]CBS announced[FONT="] that Geftman-Gold had been fired.[/FONT]
majorspark
Posts: 5,122
Oct 2, 2017 10:48pm
All acts of violence denote an element to one degree or another of terrorism. "Terrorism" in the current public discourse involves some sort of political or other ideological motive. Which I think is a fair judgment. The problem is politicians have corrupted an otherwise wise assessment of these acts of violence for their own political gain. Rest assured politicians have been working hard all day how to "handle" the facts as they become available to the public with this current atrocity in a manner favorable to themselves.BoatShoes;1874398 wrote:Frankly IMHO the whole semantic dispute is pretty much public discourse at its very worst.
majorspark
Posts: 5,122
Oct 3, 2017 12:19am
This guy no doubt is some sort of nutjob. You have to be to do something like this. But this is not some mentally deranged dude "snapping" and going of the rails. This was well planned. The guy had two rooms and brought an arsenal of weapons and ammunition over a period of days to them. He obviously specifically targeted this event. His planning took a significant amount of time likely many months. He possessed fully automatic weapons illegal to the average joe. Broke out two windows and placed firing platforms on both rotating firing positions (per reports). Quite a feat for one 64yr old guy.
I am not saying this guy did not act alone. Just that this incident given the effort requires a very high level of motivation. So what was the motive?
I am not saying this guy did not act alone. Just that this incident given the effort requires a very high level of motivation. So what was the motive?
OSH
Posts: 4,145
Oct 3, 2017 9:47am
Heard this morning on the radio: 23 guns in the hotel room, and the shooter used an "AK-47 type gun with a stand for stability."
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Zunardo
Posts: 370
Oct 3, 2017 12:41pm
According to Tom Brokaw on NBC this morning, Paddock was a gun collector, and gun collectors are known to be gunsmiths capable of easily converting their weapons to fully-automatic. Sounded like a blanket condemnation of collectors to me.
I'm not a gun collector, although I know it's likely at least some have gunsmith skills. But how accurate is Brokaw's generalization?
I'm not a gun collector, although I know it's likely at least some have gunsmith skills. But how accurate is Brokaw's generalization?
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Oct 3, 2017 12:44pm
Not sure I would confuse a high level of "motivation" with just above average intelligence and the patience/discipline to plan this out. For whatever reason he decided to do this, he probably really got off on the anticipation. Probably got that much more excited every time he progressed.majorspark;1874671 wrote: I am not saying this guy did not act alone. Just that this incident given the effort requires a very high level of motivation. So what was the motive?
He had over two dozen weapons. His brother thought he had a couple of hand guns.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Oct 3, 2017 12:49pm
I don't know, but it's about as responsible as reporting on someone having their brakes cut, and then talking about how car collectors know how to sever brake lines because they tinker with their engines.Zunardo;1874751 wrote: I'm not a gun collector, although I know it's likely at least some have gunsmith skills. But how accurate is Brokaw's generalization?
Just look at the CBS lawyer that got fired. No one thinks like that, or thinks it's acceptable to tweet that, unless you work in an environment with a lot of similarly minded people.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Oct 3, 2017 1:39pm
friendfromlowry;1874639 wrote:I wasn't sure which thread to post this on (why do we have two again?)
http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/02/cbs-legal-exec-no-sympathy-because-country-music-fans-often-are-republican/
It's amazing the dumb shit people say, especially the ones with high profile jobs.
Outrageous, but in today's world the twisted liberal mind continues to spit out bizarre stuff. When you see the hyphenated last names, be wary.
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Oct 3, 2017 1:49pm
WTF does that have to do with anything?QuakerOats;1874768 wrote:When you see the hyphenated last names, be wary.
Be wary, what does that mean? Care to explain....
I have friends from both sides of the political perspective that have hyphenated last names.
fish82
Posts: 4,111
Oct 3, 2017 1:54pm
You don't even need to modify the gun to bump-fire a semi-auto...all it takes is the right grip and some practice.Zunardo;1874751 wrote:According to Tom Brokaw on NBC this morning, Paddock was a gun collector, and gun collectors are known to be gunsmiths capable of easily converting their weapons to fully-automatic. Sounded like a blanket condemnation of collectors to me.
I'm not a gun collector, although I know it's likely at least some have gunsmith skills. But how accurate is Brokaw's generalization?
Fab4Runner
Posts: 6,196
Oct 3, 2017 2:05pm
Lol wut.QuakerOats;1874768 wrote:Outrageous, but in today's world the twisted liberal mind continues to spit out bizarre stuff. When you see the hyphenated last names, be wary.
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Oct 3, 2017 2:09pm
Apparently, he has a twisted liberal mind, since he just spit out some bizarre stuff.Fab4Runner;1874786 wrote:Lol wut.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Oct 3, 2017 2:27pm
lol...what a fucking lunatic.
Hyphenated names = against traditional values of Christianity and marriage = THE ENEMY!!!!
Hyphenated names = against traditional values of Christianity and marriage = THE ENEMY!!!!
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Oct 3, 2017 2:34pm
LOL .... yeah right
salto
Posts: 2,611
Oct 3, 2017 2:50pm
Legally purchased weapons, using bump stocks led to the largest mass killing in American history.fish82;1874777 wrote:You don't even need to modify the gun to bump-fire a semi-auto...all it takes is the right grip and some practice.
MontyBrunswick
Posts: 846
Oct 3, 2017 3:03pm
make sure you don't pull a muscle patting yourself on the backsalto;1874802 wrote:Legally purchased weapons, using bump stocks led to the largest mass killing in American history.
salto
Posts: 2,611
Oct 3, 2017 3:04pm
Hopefully all of the NRA fanatic idiots around here don't pull a muscle kicking themselves in the ass.MontyBrunswick;1874804 wrote:make sure you don't pull a muscle patting yourself on the back
ptown_trojans_1
Posts: 7,632
Oct 3, 2017 3:05pm
What did you mean then?QuakerOats;1874794 wrote:LOL .... yeah right
Be wary? Why?
MontyBrunswick
Posts: 846
Oct 3, 2017 3:07pm
if only there were a thread dedicated to political discussion...HMMM....salto;1874807 wrote:Hopefully all of the NRA fanatic idiots around here don't pull a muscle kicking themselves in the ass.