iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Sep 27, 2017 1:24pm
"I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color,"Automatik;1873721 wrote:Link?
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000691077/article/colin-kaepernick-explains-why-he-sat-during-national-anthem
And i don't care that much but he clearly said flag, wore Chavez shirts, pig socks, etc. Equality my ass. And weird how all these other people kneeling aren't being fired. Can we admit Kap sucks and his HATE comments are why he isn't on a team?
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superman
Posts: 3,582
Sep 27, 2017 1:53pm
Is okay to be wrong. Don't get butthurt.Automatik;1873727 wrote:So you're full of shit too.
GODSPEED.
CenterBHSFan
Posts: 6,115
Sep 27, 2017 2:02pm
I just watched Jason Whitlock giving his opinion on this issue. He asserts that these players are out of their role in that level of political speaking (going from mostly memory here but I'll add the link at the bottom) and so this is how they are "talking", that they are beyond their depth, that they're not experts in the cause that they are taking up. He also asserts that getting into these deep racial discussions are not something you can just go through during 2:30 minutes of a national anthem. AND, to top all of that off, he states that the lefties have baited these players into doing things that are really outside their roles/expertise
https://youtu.be/a5h_YDRFQa0?t=709"because they want black people to take a non-strategic approach to their problems, because they don't want us to really address their problems."
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Sep 27, 2017 2:23pm
Overall, I'm not a Whitlock fan, but every time he comments on this topic he nails it.
CenterBHSFan
Posts: 6,115
Sep 27, 2017 2:38pm
I've only listened to him 2, maybe 3 times, but I agree with you. He's got a lot of points that I agree with, very little that I disagree with, but he's very good at making his case.Automatik;1873748 wrote:Overall, I'm not a Whitlock fan, but every time he comments on this topic he nails it.
Reps to your post, too!
salto
Posts: 2,611
Sep 27, 2017 3:41pm
CenterBHSFan
Posts: 6,115
Sep 27, 2017 3:57pm
So, it's all about Trump with you?
Belly35
Posts: 9,716
Sep 27, 2017 4:36pm
I'll stand for my country National Anthem and the America Flag, I bend my knee for God and Heroes.
Washed up football player is meaningless and his cause is moot. Thank you Autom spell check and careless not like others who are so critical hasn't made grammar mistakes
Washed up football player is meaningless and his cause is moot. Thank you Autom spell check and careless not like others who are so critical hasn't made grammar mistakes
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Sep 27, 2017 4:41pm
moot*
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Sep 27, 2017 4:47pm
That's the problem, the original issue has been lost in lieu of the pissing match between the cheeto and the players.CenterBHSFan;1873756 wrote:So, it's all about Trump with you?
salto
Posts: 2,611
Sep 27, 2017 4:48pm
Thanks.Belly35;1873765 wrote:I'll stand for my country National Anthem and the America Flag, I bend my knee for God and Heroes.
Washed up football player is meaningless and his cause is mute
salto
Posts: 2,611
Sep 27, 2017 4:50pm
This.queencitybuckeye;1873767 wrote:That's the problem, the original issue has been lost in lieu of the pissing match between the cheeto and the players.
“The issue of kneeling has nothing to do with race,” President Trump tweeted on Monday. “It is about respect for our country, flag and national anthem.”
The kneeling has a lot to do with race.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Sep 27, 2017 4:58pm
It did, but I no longer think it does. Now it's more about "Fuck Trump".salto;1873769 wrote:This.
“The issue of kneeling has nothing to do with race,” President Trump tweeted on Monday. “It is about respect for our country, flag and national anthem.”
The kneeling has a lot to do with race.
salto
Posts: 2,611
Sep 27, 2017 5:10pm
Maybe. Thank you Veterans for protecting our 1st Amendment rights, which allows this to happen.queencitybuckeye;1873771 wrote:It did, but I no longer think it does. Now it's more about "Fuck Trump".
Devils Advocate
Posts: 4,539
Sep 27, 2017 5:54pm
Damn Belly, So you respect your flag and anthem more than God and heroes?Belly35;1873765 wrote:I'll stand for my country National Anthem and the America Flag, I bend my knee for God and Heroes.
Washed up football player is meaningless and his cause is mute
Whoda thunk.
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friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
Sep 27, 2017 5:58pm
Looking forward to the Packers - Bears game tomorrow night.
fish82
Posts: 4,111
Sep 27, 2017 6:28pm
No “maybe” about it really. Participation in Kneelism went from 10 to 200 after Trump interjected himself into the conversation.salto;1873772 wrote:Maybe. Thank you Veterans for protecting our 1st Amendment rights, which allows this to happen.
Hardly rocket science.
HOF on coattails
Posts: 28
Sep 27, 2017 7:05pm
Blame the media too. Simple fix is keep the camera's on the person singing the national anthem and NOT on the kneeling players. It would all go away.fish82;1873777 wrote:No “maybe” about it really. Participation in Kneelism went from 10 to 200 after Trump interjected himself into the conversation.
Hardly rocket science.
Belly35
Posts: 9,716
Sep 27, 2017 7:25pm
what have you done to earn the right to abuse this privilege of freedom ...salto;1873772 wrote:Maybe. Thank you Veterans for protecting our 1st Amendment rights, which allows this to happen.
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Sep 27, 2017 7:29pm
I haven't been keeping up with this thread, but I wanted to drop in with a story from the TNF Dolphins @ Bengals game from last season. A couple hillbillies were sitting behind us screaming "We don't kneel in Cincinnati!" over and over again as a few Dolphins players kneeled for the anthem. These guys were yelling throughout the entirety of the anthem. I find the act of screaming during the anthem a lot worse, and significantly more annoying.
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kizer permanente
Posts: 667
Sep 27, 2017 7:29pm
He's a US citizen?Belly35;1873788 wrote:what have you done to earn the right to abuse this privilege of freedom ...
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Sep 27, 2017 7:30pm
LOL, right?kizer permanente;1873790 wrote:He's a US citizen?
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Sep 27, 2017 7:31pm
The 1st Amendment really has nothing to do with this. The NFL would be completely within their rights to stop it tomorrow.salto;1873772 wrote:Maybe. Thank you Veterans for protecting our 1st Amendment rights, which allows this to happen.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Sep 27, 2017 8:05pm
Just like all the idiots who were booing and yelling this past weekend.justincredible;1873789 wrote:I haven't been keeping up with this thread, but I wanted to drop in with a story from the TNF Dolphins @ Bengals game from last season. A couple hillbillies were sitting behind us screaming "We don't kneel in Cincinnati!" over and over again as a few Dolphins players kneeled for the anthem. These guys were yelling throughout the entirety of the anthem. I find the act of screaming during the anthem a lot worse, and significantly more annoying.
fish82
Posts: 4,111
Sep 27, 2017 8:16pm
Exactly. Employers have pretty wide discretion toward employee behavior during work hours...especially that which can affect company revenue. They’re perfectly within their right to condone it or shut it down.justincredible;1873792 wrote:The 1st Amendment really has nothing to do with this. The NFL would be completely within their rights to stop it tomorrow.
Owners could fire every kneeler tomorrow...and while I’m sure the players union would sue, the owners would win in court pretty easily.