Cleveland Cavaliers 2017-2018 Offseason

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Jun 19, 2017 9:23am
like_that;1859513 wrote:I will go ahead and say it. There is absolutely 0% chance Lebron leaves if they have Love and PG13. There is no other roster the lakers could give Lebron in his closing window period to give Lebron a legitimate chance to win a title. Lebron isn't dumb.
I misread your earlier post. I thought you meant that you wouldn't put Love on the table, meaning very likely the Cavs don't acquire PG.

What I was saying was that if the Cavs stick with what they have, lose again in the Finals, that there's a good chance LBJ would bolt. If what I'm reading now is saying the Cavs have a Big Four (with Love), yeah....both LBJ & PG would be dumb to leave.
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Jun 19, 2017 9:28am
Another thing that could be interesting is if bosh is cleared to play. He got bought out from the heat and if he's cleared to play he could easily fill loves spot at minimum cost of love was involved in the PG trade. Personally I'm taking the gamble of trading love for pg if we absolutely have to.


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Jun 19, 2017 10:03am
BR1986FB;1859517 wrote:I misread your earlier post. I thought you meant that you wouldn't put Love on the table, meaning very likely the Cavs don't acquire PG.

What I was saying was that if the Cavs stick with what they have, lose again in the Finals, that there's a good chance LBJ would bolt. If what I'm reading now is saying the Cavs have a Big Four (with Love), yeah....both LBJ & PG would be dumb to leave.
lol fair. If Lebron/PG left a roster with Kyrie and Love it would be the most idiotic move in FA history.
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Jun 19, 2017 10:14am
Crimson streak;1859519 wrote:Another thing that could be interesting is if bosh is cleared to play. He got bought out from the heat and if he's cleared to play he could easily fill loves spot at minimum cost of love was involved in the PG trade. Personally I'm taking the gamble of trading love for pg if we absolutely have to.
Even if he's cleared to play, taking on Bosh is dicey, at best. Having a player potentially drop dead on you in the middle of a game is a bad look. I'm not sure that he even could be cleared, with any certainty.
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Jun 19, 2017 10:30am
BR1986FB;1859522 wrote:Even if he's cleared to play, taking on Bosh is dicey, at best. Having a player potentially drop dead on you in the middle of a game is a bad look. I'm not sure that he even could be cleared, with any certainty.
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Jun 19, 2017 10:42am
like_that;1859524 wrote:
lol...should've saw that one coming like a freight train.

As fans, many of us have the "win at all costs" (unless it involves cheering for the TheRapist or Killer Ray Lewis) mentality where I'm doubtful the Cavs, or many organizations, would want the albatross of signing a player with a health risk, that you probably never know whether he's clear or not, only for him to potentially die during a game.

They could probably get Bosh for a vet minimum too but I doubt the Cavs would be crazy enough to take that risk.
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Jun 19, 2017 11:13am
BR1986FB;1859526 wrote:lol...should've saw that one coming like a freight train.

As fans, many of us have the "win at all costs" (unless it involves cheering for the TheRapist or Killer Ray Lewis) mentality where I'm doubtful the Cavs, or many organizations, would want the albatross of signing a player with a health risk, that you probably never know whether he's clear or not, only for him to potentially die during a game.

They could probably get Bosh for a vet minimum too but I doubt the Cavs would be crazy enough to take that risk.
Yeah, but spin zone:

If he dies, the players will be extra motivated and dedicate their season to winning for Bosh.
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Jun 19, 2017 12:14pm
like_that;1859531 wrote:Yeah, but spin zone:

If he dies, the players will be extra motivated and dedicate their season to winning for Bosh.
I lol'd


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Jun 19, 2017 12:48pm
Probasketballdraft‏ @Probballdraft 3h3 hours ago Hearing if Cavs-Pacers talks go well 76ers could be included as a 3rd team & possible landing spot for Love if IND prefer picks & prospects

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Heard before the draft 76ers wanted to add shooters and a veteran to young core and were willing to trade for it. Fultz and Love are that.
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Jun 19, 2017 3:23pm
Just stopping in to say happy anniversary, friends.



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Jun 19, 2017 3:49pm
You can check my history (called the exact kevin love trade including the amount of picks going to Min) to determine for yourself if you think I have #sources but my #sources told me this morning that we are definitely discussing a trade with Indiana, and that we will be sending Klove as part of the deal, but also getting more than just PG back (could be a 3-team). I will try to nail down specifics, tomorrow.
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Jun 19, 2017 5:08pm
Cavs trying to get Jimmy Butler from Chicago, per Marc Stein.

Oh.
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Jun 19, 2017 5:13pm
Laley23;1859568 wrote:Cavs trying to get Jimmy Butler from Chicago, per Marc Stein.

Oh.
0%. Just using this as leverage.
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Jun 19, 2017 5:16pm
Laley23;1859568 wrote:Cavs trying to get Jimmy Butler from Chicago, per Marc Stein.

Oh.
Maybe to get Indy to lower the asking price?


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Jun 19, 2017 5:20pm
Crimson streak;1859570 wrote:Maybe to get Indy to lower the asking price?


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Those were my initial thoughts.
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Jun 19, 2017 5:44pm
like_that;1859572 wrote:Those were my initial thoughts.
I really think they are trying to get George with out giving up love. Obviously TT would be in the deal but I'm definitely ok with that


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Jun 19, 2017 5:52pm
Here's a question. If TT was paid what we all feel he is worth, are you that quick to get rid of him? Does that fact that he is incredibly overpaid make you want him out of here more? B/c I love TT.
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Jun 19, 2017 6:03pm
Crimson streak;1859573 wrote:I really think they are trying to get George with out giving up love. Obviously TT would be in the deal but I'm definitely ok with that


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If we trade Love give me Butler. If not, give me PG.


If Griffin pulls PG off without giving up love, just go ahead and build his statue.
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Jun 19, 2017 7:19pm
I don't think there's a chance in hell we get PG or Butler without giving up Love.

Let's be realistic here fellas..
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Jun 19, 2017 7:25pm
Windy reporting that Griffin and the Cavs will be parting ways.
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Jun 19, 2017 7:27pm
@WojVerticalNBA
Sources: As David Griffin departs as Cavs -- "Just couldn't agree on future," source says - Chauncey Billups expected to emerge as candidate

Uhhh?
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Jun 19, 2017 7:30pm
SMFH Griffin.
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Jun 19, 2017 7:33pm
If the Cavs FO and Griffin were talking contract, who the hell were the Pacers talking to, from the Cavs FO?
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Jun 19, 2017 7:34pm
Wtf?


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Jun 19, 2017 7:38pm
sportswizuhrd;1859584 wrote:If the Cavs FO and Griffin were talking contract, who the hell were the Pacers talking to, from the Cavs FO?
LeBron.