Laley23;1868619 wrote:Literally the only reason to hate on IT, while loving Kyrie is height. Kyrie is a better shot getter, but he didn't do anything else to help you win. Nothing. And IT isn't a slouch scoring.

What are those stats from? Career or his time in Boston? Cause in Boston, he kinda had to take all the shots and never pass. That team had zero offense outside of him.

Im far from an IT superfan, but I'm also realistic in the fact Kyrie is an offensive genius and nothing else. I wouldn't put Kyrie in the top 5 PGs last year.

like_that;1868622 wrote:You also listed Lowry and Teague ahead of Kyrie at one point, so there is also that [emoji23].

Laley23;1868619 wrote:Literally the only reason to hate on IT, while loving Kyrie is height. Kyrie is a better shot getter, but he didn't do anything else to help you win. Nothing. And IT isn't a slouch scoring.

What are those stats from? Career or his time in Boston? Cause in Boston, he kinda had to take all the shots and never pass. That team had zero offense outside of him.

Im far from an IT superfan, but I'm also realistic in the fact Kyrie is an offensive genius and nothing else. I wouldn't put Kyrie in the top 5 PGs last year.

Commander of Awesome;1868632 wrote:Let's hear your top 5 PG list.

Laley23;1868634 wrote:Westbrook
Curry
Harden
CP3
Wall

Kyrie
Conley
Lillard
Lowry
IT


CP3 is on his last legs it seems, so probably won't have another top 5 year, you wouldn't think.

Commander of Awesome;1868685 wrote:

LOL

Shump: I would like you to trade me
Cavs: That makes two of us

Also, something we all already know, but still:

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/247259/Executives-Expect-LeBron-James-To-Leave-Cavs-In-2018

Commander of Awesome;1868748 wrote:I think it still gets done. Cavs can't get better offer and IT shouldn't have been in the plans regardless.

SportsAndLady;1868750 wrote:IT is the main piece (possibly the Nets pick) of the trade, if he's not healthy, it should NOT get done.

SportsAndLady;1868750 wrote:IT is the main piece (possibly the Nets pick) of the trade, if he's not healthy, it should NOT get done.

ernest_t_bass;1868759 wrote:Consider me in the camp of "Lebron is not leaving."

Commander of Awesome;1868760 wrote:You really think IT is the main piece?

kizer permanente;1868761 wrote:Pretty much the only way Lebron is staying is if they win this year. And not saying they can't. But they probably won't.

ernest_t_bass;1868763 wrote:Has Lebron confirmed (or denied)? Until either happens, I think it's true 50/50 speculation. I sway to the side of him staying.

SportsAndLady;1868757 wrote:Zero interest in Smart, especially as the main piece.

Tatum would be fine, but he could be a bust, we don't know.

Just hope IT's hip will be fine and we can move on post-Kyrie.

SportsAndLady;1868762 wrote:Only you and your delusional hot takes think IT wasn't the main piece in that trade (again, I already mentioned maybe the Nets pick).