GOP Healthcare plan

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ppaw1999
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Apr 26, 2017 10:47am
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/republicans-exempt-their-own-insurance-from-their-latest-health-care-proposal/ar-BBAnqI1?li=BBnb7Kz

Once again Congress looks out for themselves. Double standards as usual. I don't think this is just a Republican issue. I am sure the Democrats would want this protection too.
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like_that
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Apr 26, 2017 10:50am
ppaw1999;1849840 wrote:http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/republicans-exempt-their-own-insurance-from-their-latest-health-care-proposal/ar-BBAnqI1?li=BBnb7Kz

Once again Congress looks out for themselves. Double standards as usual. I don't think this is just a Republican issue. I am sure the Democrats would want this protection too.
They already did.

Just another argument for less government. Wake up people.
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sleeper
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Apr 26, 2017 11:14am
like_that;1849842 wrote:They already did.

Just another argument for less government. Wake up people.
Or better government rather than GOP propaganda to hamstring government and then blame government.
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like_that
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Apr 26, 2017 12:08pm
sleeper;1849848 wrote:Or better government rather .
Not happening with our current two party system.
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sleeper
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Apr 26, 2017 12:14pm
like_that;1849862 wrote:Not happening with our current two party system.
Or people could vote for the party that spends time trying to pass good policy rather than hamstring the government and then blame the government.
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like_that
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Apr 26, 2017 12:22pm
sleeper;1849863 wrote:Or people could vote for the party that spends time trying to pass good policy rather than hamstring the government and then blame the government.
I agree. People should vote for the Libertarian party.
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fish82
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Apr 27, 2017 9:26am
Sounds like they've come up with a Plan B that the freedom caucus says they'll endorse.
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wkfan
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Apr 27, 2017 10:16am
sleeper;1849863 wrote:Or people could vote for the party that spends time trying to pass good policy rather than hamstring the government and then blame the government.
like_that;1849866 wrote:I agree. People should vote for the Libertarian party.
I hate that people vote for a party........

I wish voters would investigate the candidates and vote for the one that most closely aligned with their views and desires.
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Belly35
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Apr 28, 2017 6:01am
Federal government quagmire will remain the same until term limits is law ....then and only then will politicans, government and policy change and party politic agenda will be less a matter of voting popularity
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CenterBHSFan
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Apr 28, 2017 11:19am
Belly35;1850509 wrote:Federal government quagmire will remain the same until term limits is law ....then and only then will politicans, government and policy change and party politic agenda will be less a matter of voting popularity
I agree with this. But, nobody wants to be the one who starts that ball rolling.
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Apr 28, 2017 4:45pm
Belly35;1850509 wrote:Federal government quagmire will remain the same until term limits is law ....then and only then will politicans, government and policy change and party politic agenda will be less a matter of voting popularity
Term limits don't need to be short. Set it at 12 years.
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wkfan
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May 1, 2017 11:26am
Spock;1850693 wrote:Term limits don't need to be short. Set it at 12 years.
8 years, tops.
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ppaw1999
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May 2, 2017 3:14pm
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/asked-about-health-care-trump-trips-over-his-own-ignorance/ar-BBAAtLt

I thought President Trump claimed he had a health care plan ready to go as soon as he was elected? I agree with Belly. Term limits are way over due. Both parties will never work together for fear of making the other party look good. Sad.
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ppaw1999
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May 2, 2017 3:17pm
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ppaw1999
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May 4, 2017 9:17am
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/gop-rushing-to-vote-on-healthcare-without-analysis-of-changes/ar-BBAIzGe?li=BBnb7Kz

Great another health care bill to be voted on without knowing what's in it. New boss just like the old boss. SMH.
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gut
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May 4, 2017 1:00pm
ppaw1999;1851412 wrote:http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/gop-rushing-to-vote-on-healthcare-without-analysis-of-changes/ar-BBAIzGe?li=BBnb7Kz

Great another health care bill to be voted on without knowing what's in it. New boss just like the old boss. SMH.
Honestly, I don't know why healthcare has to be "so complicated".

1) Make it illegal for insurance companies to ask about pre-existing conditions
2) Expand Medicaid and increase it's advertising budget.

I just accomplished what Obamacare did with 2 lines instead of 2000 pages.
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ppaw1999
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May 4, 2017 1:42pm
That makes sense. It will never fly.
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May 4, 2017 1:55pm
gut;1851453 wrote:Honestly, I don't know why healthcare has to be "so complicated".

1) Make it illegal for insurance companies to ask about pre-existing conditions
2) Expand Medicaid and increase it's advertising budget.

I just accomplished what Obamacare did with 2 lines instead of 2000 pages.
Politicians need things to be complicated so they look important and necessary.
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like_that
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May 4, 2017 1:58pm
Heretic;1851464 wrote:Politicians need things to be complicated so they look important and necessary.
Truth, otherwise people would wake up and realize that we really don't need them in many aspects of our lives.
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May 4, 2017 2:06pm
BIG Government involvement in health insurance created the problem.

Thinking government can then solve the problem is rather ludicrous. At this point, limiting further damage is a win.

What a sorry state ...........obamaKare remains the largest legislative and administrative disaster in the history of the republic.
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May 4, 2017 2:07pm
like_that;1851466 wrote:Truth, otherwise people would wake up and realize that we really don't need them in many aspects of our lives.
Citation needed.
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gut
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May 4, 2017 2:09pm
like_that;1851466 wrote:Truth, otherwise people would wake up and realize that we really don't need them in many aspects of our lives.
How many of our laws are actually written by law school/public policy students with absolutely no real world experience? I'd guess most of it. I suppose it's great training for their future as a know-nothing politician.

Got a bit of an education from a corporate "govt affairs" guy I worked with. Basically told me they pay lobbyists and make political donations to educate politicians from passing horrible laws (and, a lot of times, they're opposing litigation lawyers on the other side who are basically playing the govt like the lottery).

Lobbyists are a problem and a source of corporate welfare.....BUT if the bureaucrats were allowed to operate out of a vacuum in their little bubble the results would be a disaster.
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May 4, 2017 2:27pm
Annnd the house just passed the bill. I really hate the people running our country.
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May 4, 2017 2:29pm
How hard/easy will this get through the Senate?
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May 4, 2017 2:35pm
Laley23;1851474 wrote:How hard/easy will this get through the Senate?
I doub it gets thru. I would say it's a safe bet that cruz and paul vote against it. All it would take is one more "no."