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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Aug 29, 2017 12:00pm
Both valid opinions, although one can question the value of reps against the back end of the roster and guys who will be working the Citgo next week.vball10set;1869223 wrote:Who said anything about winning a game? my opinion's that he needs as many reps as he can get, and yours is that you'd rather him sit so he doesn't get hurt...I get it...moving along...
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Aug 29, 2017 12:11pm
Play's right in to Donovan's comment. Why keep him if you have two (younger) guys better & cheaper? I don't know about Haden requesting a trade but it's probably more of your last two comments.Commander of Awesome;1869236 wrote:Timing on this is very poor. The time to move on from Haden was in the offseason, not on the eve of the regular season. Anything happening is very unlikely. Makes you wonder why now? Did Haden request a trade? Do we feel better about players behind him now after TC and preseason? Or, most likeley, Haden that bad?
Was watching him in that last game and he seems to let guys get behind him way too easily. I think he gets a lot more credit than he deserves sometimes. He's fared pretty well against AJ Green but gets beaten like a drum by Antonio Brown.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Aug 29, 2017 12:13pm
Isn't Monty Brunswick one of thavoice's alts? If so, I was cracking up the other day when I saw thavoice quote and respond to Monty on another thread.SportsAndLady;1869229 wrote:Pretty sure you're talking with thavoice, just FYI.
He has no idea what he's talking about
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Aug 29, 2017 12:20pm
I think you let Kizer play the 4th preseason game. The more game action reps the better. I'd play him the 1st quarter or even the first half and try to get him as ready as possible for week 1. Kizer is a pretty big guy so I'm not crazy concerned about injury. Just have to tell him to not take unnecessary hits.
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wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Aug 30, 2017 8:02am
Browns have cut Haden, according to Ian Rapoport.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Aug 30, 2017 8:13am
Saw that coming like a freight train. Best of luck to him.
They had to do something. You're not going to pay a guy $11M/yr to cover the slot and he's too dainty to move to safety. Unfortunately, they couldn't find a trade partner. Hope he ends up with a contender, outside of the division. Good guy who was "All In" for Cleveland.
They had to do something. You're not going to pay a guy $11M/yr to cover the slot and he's too dainty to move to safety. Unfortunately, they couldn't find a trade partner. Hope he ends up with a contender, outside of the division. Good guy who was "All In" for Cleveland.
iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Aug 30, 2017 9:15am
I heard they had a deal for him during the offseason but it fell through. Doesn't help that he has looked like trash in preseason too. Shame, but his production just wasn't worth $11M. They supposedly met with Drew before the Tampa game, probably to ask for a restructuring, and that's why the trade rumors leaked recently.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Aug 30, 2017 9:28am
I always will respect Haden for the Love he gave to Cleveland. I am happy our FO doesn't blindly stay loyal to vets that can no longer perform at a high level though. Now, if he goes to pitt, bal, or cincy he can go fuck himself.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Aug 30, 2017 9:28am
Less than 24 hours from when Grossi promised he wasn't gonna be cut. Lolwildcats20;1869409 wrote:Browns have cut Haden, according to Ian Rapoport.
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friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
Aug 30, 2017 10:50am
All of the Bengals beat writers gave it a 0% on Twitter. They're set at CB. I saw Kansas City, Green Bay, and another NFC team I can't remember as possible destinations.like_that;1869416 wrote:I always will respect Haden for the Love he gave to Cleveland. I am happy our FO doesn't blindly stay loyal to vets that can no longer perform at a high level though. Now, if he goes to pitt, bal, or cincy he can go fuck himself.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Aug 30, 2017 11:43am
Very well said, and I agree.like_that;1869416 wrote:I always will respect Haden for the Love he gave to Cleveland. I am happy our FO doesn't blindly stay loyal to vets that can no longer perform at a high level though. Now, if he goes to pitt, bal, or cincy he can go fuck himself.
Sad to see him go, he embraced the city and was a fan favorite.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Aug 30, 2017 12:21pm
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kizer permanente
Posts: 667
Aug 30, 2017 12:43pm
I don't get the logic of expecting a player who was cut not to go to a division rival.
iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Aug 30, 2017 12:50pm
Why? He'll go wherever they pay him the most. I'm not real worried about him going to the Steelers. Look how Gilbert worked out for them. I trust Kizer can throw to our shitty receivers right at Haden and get yards.BR1986FB;1869440 wrote:If so, Haden can GFH....
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/20505330/the-pittsburgh-steelers-emerged-favorite-sign-cornerback-joe-haden-source-told-espn
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kizer permanente
Posts: 667
Aug 30, 2017 12:54pm
I can.. kind of.. understand some animosity if you don't re-sign with your team and sign with a rival. But being cut... no. go wherever you can/want.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Aug 30, 2017 12:55pm
Yeah, if he sucks let him go there. Makes them worse lol.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Aug 30, 2017 1:05pm
It just sucks. I get it. The man will look to get paid wherever he wants. Just would suck, regardless of whether he's good or bad, to see "Mr Cleveland" wearing piss & black.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Aug 30, 2017 1:08pm
I don't expect a former player to make FA decisions based on his former fans, but to me being a Steeler = POS. Therefore Joe can go fuck himself. I don't care if he was traded there, I would feel the same.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Aug 30, 2017 1:20pm
Good luck to em. Not too worried about him turning into a star for Pittsburgh tho, he isn't very good anymore.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Aug 30, 2017 2:10pm
LMAO, we got a 5th for Erving?!?!?!
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Browns' current 2018 picks:
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Aug 30, 2017 2:11pm
lol...thisiclfan2;1869444 wrote:I trust Kizer can throw to our shitty receivers right at Haden and get yards.
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slingshot4ever
Posts: 4,085
Aug 30, 2017 4:15pm
Here's to hoping Houston sucks this year....Commander of Awesome;1869457 wrote:LMAO, we got a 5th for Erving?!?!?!
Browns' current 2018 picks:
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Rd 1 (HOU)
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Rd 2 (HOU)
Rd 2 (PHI)
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Rd 4 (CAR)
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like_that
Posts: 26,625
Aug 30, 2017 4:17pm
I'll be the insensitive one and say they won't after this hurricane.slingshot4ever;1869484 wrote:Here's to hoping Houston sucks this year....
GOONx19
Posts: 7,147
Aug 30, 2017 4:34pm
$9m seems like a lot for Haden based on current production, no? How does that compare to other last leg CBs?
iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Aug 30, 2017 4:38pm
the Steelers PAID Haden, my goodness.