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Apr 29, 2017 12:46 AM
lmfao....CLE being CLE
Apr 28, 2017 8:46pm
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Apr 29, 2017 12:54 AM
Can't be mad or happy. We'll see how he turns out. It's a crap shoot with qbs.
Apr 28, 2017 8:54pm
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Apr 29, 2017 12:59 AM
SportsAndLady;1850717 wrote:Can't be mad or happy. We'll see how he turns out. It's a crap shoot with qbs.
He does have athleticism and an NFL arm. I've seen him make accurate tough throws, at times. The potential is there.

It's good value, but after swinging and missing SO many times for SO many years, you'd think CLE would just load up the team everywhere else with what always seems to be a ton of picks.

Seriously, their ability to accumulate picks wheeling-and-dealing would make them flat scary if they ever do find that QB.
Apr 28, 2017 8:59pm
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Apr 29, 2017 1:00 AM
SportsAndLady;1850717 wrote:Can't be mad or happy. We'll see how he turns out. It's a crap shoot with qbs.
Yup exactly. He has all the tools to be very good. He's just needs a lot of work and will have to sit a while


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Apr 28, 2017 9:00pm
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Apr 29, 2017 1:20 AM
So what's next....OL help/depth? WR?
Apr 28, 2017 9:20pm
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Apr 29, 2017 1:25 AM
I like the pick at 52...why not?
Apr 28, 2017 9:25pm
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Apr 29, 2017 1:34 AM
They need a CB
Apr 28, 2017 9:34pm
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Apr 29, 2017 1:35 AM
Lewis out of UM??
Apr 28, 2017 9:35pm
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Apr 29, 2017 1:45 AM
gut;1850719 wrote:He does have athleticism and an NFL arm. I've seen him make accurate tough throws, at times. The potential is there.

It's good value, but after swinging and missing SO many times for SO many years, you'd think CLE would just load up the team everywhere else with what always seems to be a ton of picks.

Seriously, their ability to accumulate picks wheeling-and-dealing would make them flat scary if they ever do find that QB.
It's not a bad pick for that late imo. I don't think the other QBs are that much more/less better prospects than him. Overall I think this FO is going to keep drafting a QB every year until they get it. They keep stock piling picks to do so.
Apr 28, 2017 9:45pm
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Apr 29, 2017 1:49 AM
Not a bad pick there. Should fit nicely next to Shelton


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Apr 28, 2017 9:49pm
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Apr 29, 2017 1:51 AM
Great upside and value at 52. Don't think they reached at all, and got a potential starting NFL QB.
Apr 28, 2017 9:51pm
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Apr 29, 2017 5:51 AM
vball10set;1850724 wrote:I like the pick at 52...why not?
He night be a fucking bum, ala Weeden who wasn't worth the 352 pick.
Sonofanump;1850727 wrote:They need a CB
Yep.
Apr 29, 2017 1:51am
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Apr 29, 2017 5:53 AM
My take on Kizer, not our first/second/third option but best option they thought they had (personally I'd rather try with dobbs but not enough to QQ about it). He was at one point thought of as the top QB prospect until he QQ'd too much. It's a swing, slightly misguided, but I like that we tried. He fucking least as the physical tools which I like. Time ffor hue to put up or shut up.
Apr 29, 2017 1:53am
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Apr 29, 2017 11:38 AM
I thought they might wait until R4 and see if Kaaya was around.
Apr 29, 2017 7:38am
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Apr 29, 2017 2:45 PM
Commander of Awesome;1850758 wrote:My take on Kizer, not our first/second/third option but best option they thought they had (personally I'd rather try with dobbs but not enough to QQ about it). He was at one point thought of as the top QB prospect until he QQ'd too much. It's a swing, slightly misguided, but I like that we tried. He fucking least as the physical tools which I like. Time ffor hue to put up or shut up.
Do you have anything that says this? I got the impression that they valued Kizer the same as any other QB and thus were ok with grabbing him in the 2nd instead of trading up and reaching for somebody like Mahomes.
Apr 29, 2017 10:45am
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Apr 29, 2017 2:48 PM
Crimson streak;1850714 wrote:Lol this won't be good but I don't mind it. He has the highest upside in this draft


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I figured of all people on this site, that you would be fucking ecstatic. Earlier during the college year you were talking about how he might go #1 overall (assuming the browns were the #1 pick, which they were lol) and we all made fun of you. I hope 3 years from now (or sooner) you can bring back those posts and shit on us.
Apr 29, 2017 10:48am
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Apr 29, 2017 3:21 PM
I'm biased, because I covered DeShone for 3 years in High School and got to do several interviews/sit down talks with him for the local station in Toledo (BCSN). Talent aside, which he has a ton of potential, he is a great kid from a great family. 3 sport athlete who loved his teammates and just wanted to win. Very well spoken, with a good head on his shoulders. Despite the out of context quotes recently, he is a humble kid.

I'm pretty excited to see how he fares. He is smart enough to learn the NFL pretty quickly...just hope his untapped talent keeps up.
Apr 29, 2017 11:21am
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Apr 29, 2017 3:30 PM
like_that;1850770 wrote:I figured of all people on this site, that you would be fucking ecstatic. Earlier during the college year you were talking about how he might go #1 overall (assuming the browns were the #1 pick, which they were lol) and we all made fun of you. I hope 3 years from now (or sooner) you can bring back those posts and shit on us.
That was also based on his 2015 season and that first game against Texas. He was just so inconsistent through tour the year. I think a lot of that had to do with Brian Kelly, a terrible defense, and very young receivers. He just tried to do too much in the 4th quarter a lot of times. He does need work with his foot work but all the tools are there. I've seen him make incredible throws and then turn around and throw the ball into the ground. When his foot work is right he can really throw it. When it's not he struggles. The good thing is that it is very fixable, you just can't teach arm talent. If we get the Kizer of 2015, I truly think we have found our qb. If we get the 2016 Kizer we'll let's just say it's not pretty lol. I think we will see lore of the 2015 Kizer but we shall see.


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Apr 29, 2017 3:32 PM
Laley23;1850776 wrote:I'm biased, because I covered DeShone for 3 years in High School and got to do several interviews/sit down talks with him for the local station in Toledo (BCSN). Talent aside, which he has a ton of potential, he is a great kid from a great family. 3 sport athlete who loved his teammates and just wanted to win. Very well spoken, with a good head on his shoulders. Despite the out of context quotes recently, he is a humble kid.

I'm pretty excited to see how he fares. He is smart enough to learn the NFL pretty quickly...just hope his untapped talent keeps up.
I agree 100% with this. I might be a little biased too since my brother worked out with him a lot and ran routes for him in the summer before he got to ND and my buddy from high school helped him with his training. There is no question he has serious talent. Just gotta put it all together


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Apr 29, 2017 11:32am
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Apr 29, 2017 4:01 PM
I just can't accept a guy is humble when he compares himself to tom brady and cam Newton lol

I know everything you said is true laley, but I just can't agree that he's a humble guy lol
Apr 29, 2017 12:01pm
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Apr 29, 2017 4:05 PM
Commander of Awesome;1850757 wrote:He night be a fucking bum, ala Weeden who wasn't worth the 352 pick.
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but he might not be, and we need a QB...at 52, the reward far outweighs the risk
Apr 29, 2017 12:05pm
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Apr 29, 2017 4:10 PM
vball10set;1850781 wrote:but he might not be, and we need a QB...at 52, the reward far outweighs the risk
Agreed. We have to at least try and get a QB worth a damn.
Apr 29, 2017 12:10pm
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Apr 29, 2017 4:18 PM
SportsAndLady;1850780 wrote:I just can't accept a guy is humble when he compares himself to tom brady and cam Newton lol

I know everything you said is true laley, but I just can't agree that he's a humble guy lol
That was more taken out of context than anything but he's always been a humble guy that's why those words kinda surprised me a bit.


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Apr 29, 2017 12:18pm
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Apr 29, 2017 4:28 PM
The Kizer pick was great value at 52. Multiple "scouts "had him rated ahead of Watson. He may not pan out but the Browns didn't give up the farm and over reach on one either


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Apr 29, 2017 12:28pm
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Apr 29, 2017 4:46 PM
SportsAndLady;1850780 wrote:I just can't accept a guy is humble when he compares himself to tom brady and cam Newton lol

I know everything you said is true laley, but I just can't agree that he's a humble guy lol
I don't GAF if he is the cockiest asshole in the world if he wins games.
Apr 29, 2017 12:46pm