Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Mar 2, 2017 5:14pm
Except James Jones wasn't a start or a league MVP. Nor is he ranked in the top 20 players of all time by the sport. Any other fails?sleeper;1839505 wrote:It's a snap shot in time of the best players in that era. I'm really not sure why you think this has any relevancy to the discussion. It's not like its meant to rank players, its merely an accolade given at a certain point in time. Would Otto Graham make the HOF in today's game? Given his mediocre stats and the ability to make the championship game(not win, but make) the game in a 8 team league called the AFAFC 10 times, I certainly doubt his ability to even MAKE an NFL team. CFL maybe but who really cares?
Your argument is akin to calling James Jones the GOAT because he made 6 straight NBA finals, no one cares. It does not matter. Sorry to tell the truth about your hero.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Mar 2, 2017 5:16pm
I asked you to justify your reason why Graham is the GOAT. You said he played in 10 championships in 10 years.Commander of Awesome;1839506 wrote:Except James Jones wasn't a start or a league MVP. Nor is he ranked in the top 20 players of all time by the sport. Any other fails?
'Nuff said.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Mar 2, 2017 5:23pm
Which I did. Otto Graham is closer to LBJ 6 straight finals trip than he is to James Jones 6 straight finals trip. You tried to diminish the feat by bringing up James Jones and I shot it down easily. Any other questions lil guy?sleeper;1839508 wrote:I asked you to justify your reason why Graham is the GOAT. You said he played in 10 championships in 10 years.
'Nuff said.
Still waiting for you to explain how HOF isn't a gauge for the games best players.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Mar 2, 2017 5:33pm
Sleeper just keeps digging a deeper hole.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Mar 2, 2017 5:39pm
Because the HOF isn't revised from year to year. Once you are in, you are in for life. It's meaningless when trying to decide the greatest at each position because its RELATIVE to when you played and if you happened to play in a time where you are the best of the trash than you get HOF status.Commander of Awesome;1839509 wrote:Which I did. Otto Graham is closer to LBJ 6 straight finals trip than he is to James Jones 6 straight finals trip. You tried to diminish the feat by bringing up James Jones and I shot it down easily. Any other questions lil guy?
Still waiting for you to explain how HOF isn't a gauge for the games best players.
It's just like why playing in 10 championships over 10 years means a lot less when the league is only at 8 teams. Just like the MVP means a lot less when there are only 8 teams and 90% of the league was white people.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Mar 2, 2017 5:40pm
yeah yeah, pile on sleeper. I'd do the same if I had no balls and couldn't back up my own arguments with data and critical analysis.like_that;1839512 wrote:Sleeper just keeps digging a deeper hole.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Mar 2, 2017 5:47pm
Just admit you made a dumb comment and move on. There are literally 0 people who agree with you and that includes outside of this forum.sleeper;1839515 wrote:yeah yeah, pile on sleeper. I'd do the same if I had no balls and couldn't back up my own arguments with data and critical analysis.
If you talk to anybody who is knowledgeable about football and you tell them you don't know who Otto is and that he is trash, you would be laughed to shame.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Mar 2, 2017 9:09pm
Terrell Owens not making HOF is dumb. Why is the football HOF so resistant to put receivers in?
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Mar 3, 2017 8:28am
He gets in, but his enshrinement is getting delayed because they are punishing him for being an ass hole. It's stupid, but it's no secret as to why.Ironman92;1839537 wrote:Terrell Owens not making HOF is dumb. Why is the football HOF so resistant to put receivers in?
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Mar 3, 2017 8:47am
The Jets are releasing Brandon Marshall.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Mar 3, 2017 10:13am
The gambler loljustincredible;1839571 wrote:The Jets are releasing Brandon Marshall.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Mar 3, 2017 10:16am
While the sing the gospel of Ray Lewis in his first year.Azubuike24;1839570 wrote:He gets in, but his enshrinement is getting delayed because they are punishing him for being an ass hole. It's stupid, but it's no secret as to why.
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wkfan
Posts: 1,641
Mar 3, 2017 10:59am
Who should be in prison, not the HOFIronman92;1839587 wrote:While the sing the gospel of Ray Lewis in his first year.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Mar 4, 2017 12:58pm
John Ross clocks a 4.22 and Curtis Samuel a 4.31
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friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
Mar 4, 2017 1:02pm
Ross ruined his chance at his own personal island by wearing Nike instead of Adidas.Ironman92;1839730 wrote:John Ross clocks a 4.22 and Curtis Samuel a 4.31
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Mar 4, 2017 1:05pm
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-combine/0ap3000000789982/John-Ross-unofficially-breaks-40-yard-dash-combine-record-with-a-4-22?campaign=fb-nf-sf60163682-sf60163682
I don't think it will hold.
4.27 final prediction when official
I don't think it will hold.
4.27 final prediction when official
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ironman02
Posts: 4,989
Mar 4, 2017 1:14pm
Saw a tweet that some teams clocked Ross at 4.16 or 4.19. That would be insane, but like I92 said, probably gonna be high 4.2s when official.
Samuel is doing well. Running in the 4.3s and doing well on bench is gonna help his stock.
Samuel is doing well. Running in the 4.3s and doing well on bench is gonna help his stock.
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ironman02
Posts: 4,989
Mar 4, 2017 1:51pm
Looks like 4.22 is official for Ross. That breaks Chris Johnson's record of 4.24, right?
Samuel's 4.31 is official too.
Samuel's 4.31 is official too.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Mar 4, 2017 2:35pm
NFL Network's yellow line for Chris Johnson was wrong then.ironman02;1839738 wrote:Looks like 4.22 is official for Ross. That breaks Chris Johnson's record of 4.24, right?
Samuel's 4.31 is official too.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Mar 5, 2017 12:15pm
Lol at Reuben Foster. Stay classy Bama SEC
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superman
Posts: 3,582
Mar 5, 2017 12:18pm
What the hell happened with him?Ironman92;1839786 wrote:Lol at Reuben Foster. Stay classy Bama SEC
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ironman02
Posts: 4,989
Mar 5, 2017 1:52pm
Interested to hear the details on this. All that I've seen is that he became agitated when he had to wait a significant amount of time for his physical exam.superman;1839787 wrote:What the hell happened with him?
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superman
Posts: 3,582
Mar 5, 2017 2:06pm
I was really wanting him to come to Cincinnati.ironman02;1839791 wrote:Interested to hear the details on this. All that I've seen is that he became agitated when he had to wait a significant amount of time for his physical exam.
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friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
Mar 5, 2017 2:36pm
Dont worry. It's still possible. What's one more crazy hothead on that defense.superman;1839792 wrote:I was really wanting him to come to Cincinnati.
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superman
Posts: 3,582
Mar 5, 2017 2:56pm
That's true.friendfromlowry;1839793 wrote:Dont worry. It's still possible. What's one more crazy hothead on that defense.