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superman
Posts: 3,582
Feb 28, 2017 2:38pm
I'd go top 10.SportsAndLady;1838997 wrote:Question..is Drew Brees an alltime great QB? Is he a top 5 QB? Top 10? Outside of the top 10?
In other news, Vikings decline $17 million option on AD.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Feb 28, 2017 2:52pm
For as much emphasis as you put on winning, I'm surprised by your answer.sleeper;1838999 wrote:What?
Easily top 3. I'd only put Brady and Peyton ahead of him. No question he's a top 5 QB all-time.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Feb 28, 2017 2:55pm
He won a Super Bowl and a Super Bowl MVP. That on top of his stats as a QB, he's easily the 3rd best QB ever.SportsAndLady;1839003 wrote:For as much emphasis as you put on winning, I'm surprised by your answer.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Feb 28, 2017 2:56pm
Half his 15 seasons he's been .500 or worse.sleeper;1839004 wrote:He won a Super Bowl and a Super Bowl MVP. That on top of his stats as a QB, he's easily the 3rd best QB ever.
I'd put him around 8-10'ish all time qbs.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Feb 28, 2017 2:58pm
Because his teams have been garbage.SportsAndLady;1839005 wrote:Half his 15 seasons he's been .500 or worse.
I'd put him around 8-10'ish all time qbs.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Feb 28, 2017 3:01pm
I'm not here to argue, just curious what everyone's thoughts were on that.
Friend of mine is a big Purdue guy and is dead set on him being top 5 QB all time. I was thinking more like top 10 but it's for sure been an interesting debate.
Friend of mine is a big Purdue guy and is dead set on him being top 5 QB all time. I was thinking more like top 10 but it's for sure been an interesting debate.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Feb 28, 2017 3:16pm
1. Otto
2. Brady
3. Peyton
4. Farve
5. Marino
6. Rodgers
7. Elway
8. Montana
9. Unitas
10. Tarkerton
11. Steve Young
11 players I thought of off the top of my head that'd I'd have above Brees.
2. Brady
3. Peyton
4. Farve
5. Marino
6. Rodgers
7. Elway
8. Montana
9. Unitas
10. Tarkerton
11. Steve Young
11 players I thought of off the top of my head that'd I'd have above Brees.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Feb 28, 2017 4:07pm
Drew Brees isn't a top 3 QB of all-time. C'mon. He's not even top 3 in the 2000's. Manning, Brady and Rodgers are all better.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Feb 28, 2017 4:07pm
At the same time, Brees is basically Marino, but won a ring.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Feb 28, 2017 4:09pm
Throw stats out, because eras and all. He is 3rd best in this era behind Brady/Peyton. Hard to make a case for top 5 at that point.
Elway
Montana
Marino
Favre
Tarkenton
Graham
Unitas
Those guys were all at the top of their eras. I'd go top 10, but not not 5. If I went into really deep digging, he may even fall just outside the top 10.
Elway
Montana
Marino
Favre
Tarkenton
Graham
Unitas
Those guys were all at the top of their eras. I'd go top 10, but not not 5. If I went into really deep digging, he may even fall just outside the top 10.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Feb 28, 2017 5:01pm
Brees over Rodgers? I just can't see how. Unless you penalize Rodgers because he hasn't played as long. Rodgers with a career 104.1 rating, which is ridiculous, 297 career TD and 72 INT. Brees is at 96.3 with 465 TD and 230 INT.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Feb 28, 2017 5:21pm
To me Brees is in the pack of Marino, Fouts and Moon...somewhere in the top 10 but not top 5
1. Brady
2. Elway
3. Manning
4. Montana
5. Favre
6. Steve Young
Rodgers jumping into the top 10 as his career continues on.
Looks like Brees is as high as #8 for me but not lower than 10.
1. Brady
2. Elway
3. Manning
4. Montana
5. Favre
6. Steve Young
Rodgers jumping into the top 10 as his career continues on.
Looks like Brees is as high as #8 for me but not lower than 10.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Feb 28, 2017 5:59pm
Maybe wrong, but I put Rodgers in the era after those 3. Rodgers will end up ahead of Brees no doubt, but not yet. My list after that was just guys before him that may or may not be ahead of him.Azubuike24;1839020 wrote:Brees over Rodgers? I just can't see how. Unless you penalize Rodgers because he hasn't played as long. Rodgers with a career 104.1 rating, which is ridiculous, 297 career TD and 72 INT. Brees is at 96.3 with 465 TD and 230 INT.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Feb 28, 2017 6:30pm
you're missing Otto Graham.Ironman92;1839021 wrote:To me Brees is in the pack of Marino, Fouts and Moon...somewhere in the top 10 but not top 5
1. Brady
2. Elway
3. Manning
4. Montana
5. Favre
6. Steve Young
Rodgers jumping into the top 10 as his career continues on.
Looks like Brees is as high as #8 for me but not lower than 10.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Feb 28, 2017 6:31pm
So did Trent Dilfer.Azubuike24;1839014 wrote:At the same time, Brees is basically Marino, but won a ring.
Iliketurtles
Posts: 8,191
Feb 28, 2017 6:39pm
I'd have Brees somewhere in the 7-10 range.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Feb 28, 2017 6:47pm
Fuck that palindrome'd named SOBCommander of Awesome;1839026 wrote:you're missing Otto Graham.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Feb 28, 2017 7:19pm
Just stop. No one even knows who this is.Commander of Awesome;1839026 wrote:you're missing Otto Graham.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Feb 28, 2017 7:21pm
Ah, so throw out all the objective stats and be subjective.Laley23;1839015 wrote:Throw stats out, because eras and all. He is 3rd best in this era behind Brady/Peyton. Hard to make a case for top 5 at that point.
Elway
Montana
Marino
Favre
Tarkenton
Graham
Unitas
Those guys were all at the top of their eras. I'd go top 10, but not not 5. If I went into really deep digging, he may even fall just outside the top 10.
Close it up boys.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Feb 28, 2017 7:31pm
Sleeper the NFL/Browns "fan" ladies and gentlemen. Brees is a HOF QB, but he does not sniff the top 5, let alone top 3.sleeper;1839037 wrote:Just stop. No one even knows who this is.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Feb 28, 2017 7:33pm
Idiot post of the weeksleeper;1839037 wrote:Just stop. No one even knows who this is.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Feb 28, 2017 7:47pm
No one knows who Otto graham is? Lol sleeper is a fucking moron.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Feb 28, 2017 8:20pm
Rodgers and Brees will both probably end up playing in the league during a 15-year span together. How are they not in the same era?
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Feb 28, 2017 8:26pm
Otto played for about a decade and won about every game those years. His first 3-5 years was the AAFC which had about 7 teams in the entire league. The last 4-6 years was NFL which had 12 most of the 50's I believe.
Pretty sure some of his championships they defeated the New York Yankees lol.
Otto = Top 26
Pretty sure some of his championships they defeated the New York Yankees lol.
Otto = Top 26
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Feb 28, 2017 8:30pm
Pretty much same era but Brees had over 20,000 yards passing and 125 TD passes before Rodgers started a game.Azubuike24;1839050 wrote:Rodgers and Brees will both probably end up playing in the league during a 15-year span together. How are they not in the same era?