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Nov 5, 2017 5:16 PM
SportsAndLady;1880207 wrote:Good QBs are consistent. JT has never been consistent. That’s my beef with him.
He wasn’t consistent in 2014? unfuckingbelievable
Nov 5, 2017 5:16pm
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Nov 5, 2017 5:17 PM
wildcats20;1880278 wrote:OSU opens as a 15.5 point favorite for Saturday. What?
That's absurd, especially considering the fact that Urban is 3-2 against Dantonio since coming to Ohio State. The last two games have been decided by a total of 4 points.
Nov 5, 2017 5:17pm
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Nov 5, 2017 5:23 PM
wildcats20;1880278 wrote:OSU opens as a 15.5 point favorite for Saturday. What?
College Football wants them as part of the maybe candidates


If they win out they’ll be in discussion but fall short about #6
Nov 5, 2017 5:23pm
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Nov 5, 2017 5:24 PM
Ironman92;1880282 wrote:College Football wants them as part of the maybe candidates


If they win out they’ll be in discussion but fall short about #6
Yup. Probably 7th if Washington wins out.
Nov 5, 2017 5:24pm
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Nov 5, 2017 6:24 PM
vball10set;1880279 wrote:He wasn’t consistent in 2014? unfuckingbelievable
He was 9/29 with 3 INTs vs Va Tech. Lol

Edit: 12/19 74 yards, 2 INTs vs Penn State.

Maybe look up what inconsistent means?
Nov 5, 2017 6:24pm
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Nov 5, 2017 9:38 PM
SportsAndLady;1880248 wrote:I really hate that CC agreed with me ..
Lol there are times here when i reevaluate my position because certain people agree with me.
Nov 5, 2017 9:38pm
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Nov 6, 2017 11:43 AM
I just read that MSU's qb has thrown for 400 yards 2 weeks in a row. Let's hope he doesn't make it 3...
Nov 6, 2017 11:43am
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Nov 6, 2017 11:58 AM
I miss Tressel.
Nov 6, 2017 11:58am
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Nov 6, 2017 12:27 PM
How many of these are reads, though? If they are reads, then it's more JT than the coaches.
Nov 6, 2017 12:27pm
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Nov 6, 2017 12:46 PM
They need to line up and run the ball. No read option, no run-pass-option. Run the ball down someone's threat.
Nov 6, 2017 12:46pm
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Nov 6, 2017 12:56 PM
ernest_t_bass;1880399 wrote:How many of these are reads, though? If they are reads, then it's more JT than the coaches.
It doesn't matter, the numbers don't lie. RUN MORE DESIGNED RUNS FOR THE FUCKING RUNNING BACKS.
Nov 6, 2017 12:56pm
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Nov 6, 2017 12:58 PM
Automatik;1880409 wrote:It doesn't matter, the numbers don't lie. RUN MORE DESIGNED RUNS FOR THE FUCKING RUNNING BACKS.
Nov 6, 2017 12:58pm
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Nov 6, 2017 1:06 PM
ernest_t_bass;1880399 wrote:How many of these are reads, though? If they are reads, then it's more JT than the coaches.
When a school's number #1 run option is doing the exact same play over and over again (JT gets ball, acts like he's handing to back and either does hand it off or fakes it and runs himself), I'd say the problem is a lack of diversity and imagination in play calling. Regardless of how superior a team supposedly is based on the star ratings of players on the field, if a decent team is 90+% sure what you're running, you aren't going to have much success most of the time.
Nov 6, 2017 1:06pm
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Nov 6, 2017 1:18 PM
ernest_t_bass;1880410 wrote:
Yeah, needless to say OSU has me triggered on this garbage Monday.
Nov 6, 2017 1:18pm
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Nov 6, 2017 1:24 PM
Heretic;1880415 wrote:When a school's number #1 run option is doing the exact same play over and over again (JT gets ball, acts like he's handing to back and either does hand it off or fakes it and runs himself), I'd say the problem is a lack of diversity and imagination in play calling. Regardless of how superior a team supposedly is based on the star ratings of players on the field, if a decent team is 90+% sure what you're running, you aren't going to have much success most of the time.
The issue with the read is that you put too much trust in your QB and you forget to pull the reins in when he's not making the right reads. Or, you continue to call the read when the defense is making your QB run it every single time by taking away the run option of it... then you're taking away a blocker. Like Automatik said, you have to do designed runs to add the blocker and purposely get the ball out of JT's hands.
Nov 6, 2017 1:24pm
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Nov 7, 2017 7:47 PM
OSU down to 13th in the Playoff rankings. Sparty at 12.
Nov 7, 2017 7:47pm
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Nov 7, 2017 8:23 PM
Season is over anyway. Thanks Urban.

Just beat Michigan and I'll be somewhat ok with how it turned out.
Nov 7, 2017 8:23pm
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Nov 7, 2017 8:42 PM
If this team can get their act together, win out and win the Big Ten Championship, then it'll be a successful season. Obviously, not the season everyone had in mind, but it's still solid. Winning a bowl game against a premier opponent would really give them a lot of momentum heading into next season as well.

Now, after watching what transpired last weekend, I don't have much confidence in any of the stuff I mentioned actually happening, but I'm not giving up yet. There is talent there. I wanna see that talent put in a position to be successful, and then I want to see them execute. We'll see what happens on Saturday.
Nov 7, 2017 8:42pm
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Nov 7, 2017 10:56 PM
Automatik;1880712 wrote:
Just beat Michigan and I'll be somewhat ok with how it turned out.
Me, too.
Nov 7, 2017 10:56pm
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Nov 8, 2017 12:46 AM
Does anyone think coaching turnover is catching up with Ohio State? I'm highly confident if we had Fickell & Herman things would be different
Nov 8, 2017 12:46am
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Nov 8, 2017 7:25 AM
Classyposter58;1880739 wrote:Does anyone think coaching turnover is catching up with Ohio State? I'm highly confident if we had Fickell & Herman things would be different
Coaching turnover could be part of the problem, as well as player turnover. Ohio State has lost a lot of guys early to the NFL recently.

That said, you still just can't lose by 31 to Iowa.
Nov 8, 2017 7:25am
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Nov 8, 2017 7:53 AM
ironman02;1880748 wrote:Coaching turnover could be part of the problem, as well as player turnover. Ohio State has lost a lot of guys early to the NFL recently.

That said, you still just can't lose by 31 to Iowa.
Bama and many other top programs arent losing by 30+ ever. THat is what should concern all of us. Big time programs with big time recruits should NEVER get blown out. If they do, its the coaching.
Nov 8, 2017 7:53am
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Nov 8, 2017 10:08 AM
I was curious after that loss and looked it up a few days ago... I don’t remember the exact year but Bama has only lost 1 game by more than a TD since 2009 or 2010.
Nov 8, 2017 10:08am
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Nov 8, 2017 10:44 AM
So what happens if OSU wins out (B1G title game over undefeated Wisconsin) and some of these other teams finish with 2 losses? Does OSU have any shot to get back in the playoff convo?

ND could lose again either to Stanford or this wknd to Miami. 2 losses.

Clemson loses in the conference title game to Miami. 2 losses

Georgia loses this wknd @ auburn and then to Alabama in the conf title game. 2 losses

Oklahoma loses in the conf title game. 2 losses

Tcu loses this wknd to Oklahoma. 2 losses.

Washington loses @ Stanford this wknd. 2 losses.


Gotta think it’d be Bama, Miami and then Bucks squeak in?
Nov 8, 2017 10:44am